2023 NHL Entry Draft

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

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11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Has there been anything else posted by the Canucks from the combine?  

 

Someone said that you posted a photo of the Canucks' staff that's there?  Haven't been able to find it, even creeped your profile to see what you posted. 

 

 

[Sp3nny]

18 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

Look forward to hearing your takes.

 

Despite pretty limited viewings on Simashev, it's getting hard to deny he's probably the number one guy. Hard not to think of Mukhamadullin at the same age. Simashev is not as polished offensively or defensively as Mukhamadullin was, but Simashev is heavier with more of a mean streak and he's an even better skater. Pretty similar draft quality this year to 2020, right down to being forward heavy in the top 15-20; I had Mukhamadullin 17th largely because I just thought he was one of he highest-floor players in the draft, despite limited offensive upside. With Simashev's tools he could have higher two-way upside, and I feel like a Nikita Zadorov could be a kind of a floor for him.

Normally, I have pretty big concerns when I don’t see atleast a decent amount of production leading up to draft day. I’ve said it before that I always want a prospect to have something elite about him, whether it’s skating, IQ, shot etc. I’d even accept size an an ‘elite’ quality, and I value each of those differently.

 

So on the surface, Simashev shouldn’t excite me all that much, and yet from what I have seen, I always come away impressed. I think his IQ, and in particular his play processing, is elite or near it. He doesn’t wow very often, but he constantly makes a smart play. I find he will often make a smartest play possible under pressure.

 

That combined with his fantastic skating, and a penchant for some nasty/physical play, is why I am able to overcome a potential offensive ‘ceiling’ that he might have. If I want offense from the back end, I think Gulyayev is your guy over any other D this draft, no question.

 

As far as a comparable for Simashev, I don’t mind Zadorov as someone sizeable with great skating, but I feel there is a wide margin in the processing power between the two. You mention him as a floor, and I think that’s pretty darn bang on. As far as upside, I get some Pietrangelo vibes in the play style, but still not a great comp. The player I come up with, and more so after some of his more offensive years in FLA, is Bouwmeester. A player who processes and controls the play, but never rly wows outside of his smarts. I do think there is untapped offense with Simashev as well, not necessarily from his own creativity, but from his environment.

[stawns]

5 hours ago, Odd. said:

Reinbacher at 23? Musty at 11? Lool

 

 

Button had Reinbacher further down than that

[canuckwings]

6 hours ago, Angry Goose said:

check out these updated ranking by Tony Ferrari at THN. This is definitely a draft to be looked backed at in 5-10 years.

 

https://twitter.com/thetonyferrari/status/1665780531785523201?s=46&t=0BLVwOFAqstuxqWnBc3lLQ

Thanks for the link.

 

The ranking is all over the place. So many of these prospects with lots of hype now could very well not turn out. I really hope Canucks will be on the good end of it. We really need to draft and develop our picks well to find any long term success. 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, canuckwings said:

Thanks for the link.

 

The ranking is all over the place. So many of these prospects with lots of hype now could very well not turn out. I really hope Canucks will be on the good end of it. We really need to draft and develop our picks well to find any long term success. 

All these rankings are all over the place after 4/5. Just shows how useless it would have been for us to try and lose. Whether we draft 6 or 11 makes no difference in this draft. We will get a great prospect regardless. 

[hammertime]

Here's a fun list I stumbled across. Not saying it's good or bad but they predicted 28 of the 32 1st rounders last year. There are some hot takes for sure.

 

https://soundofhockey.com/2023/06/02/a-data-driven-look-at-the-top-250-prospects-in-the-2023-nhl-draft/

[Alflives]

5 minutes ago, hammertime said:

Here's a fun list I stumbled across. Not saying it's good or bad but they predicted 28 of the 32 1st rounders last year. There are some hot takes for sure.

 

https://soundofhockey.com/2023/06/02/a-data-driven-look-at-the-top-250-prospects-in-the-2023-nhl-draft/

In this scenario we get Bendon. IMH (drunk) AO that’s awesome got us. Benson will be a fabulous player and play 2C for us. 

[eeeeergh]

1 hour ago, hammertime said:

Here's a fun list I stumbled across. Not saying it's good or bad but they predicted 28 of the 32 1st rounders last year. There are some hot takes for sure.

 

https://soundofhockey.com/2023/06/02/a-data-driven-look-at-the-top-250-prospects-in-the-2023-nhl-draft/

Happy to see Dvorsky out of the top 20, I think he’s the most overrated prospect of the draft 

[Alflives]

5 minutes ago, eeeeergh said:

Happy to see Dvorsky out of the top 20, I think he’s the most overrated prospect of the draft 

So many of us have PTBD. The idiot is gone. We have competent management again. The scouts will choose our picks. All Allvin will do is make the pick. His input on who we pick will be limited. 

[hammertime]

1 minute ago, Alflives said:

So many of us have PTBD. The idiot is gone. We have competent management again. The scouts will choose our picks. All Allvin will do is make the pick. His input on who we pick will be limited. 

Alvin's draft record is not good though Alf. 

 

 As pitts director of a scouting 

2021 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2021 Entry	58	2	Tristan Broz	C	Fargo Force [USHL]
2021 Entry	154	5	Isaac Belliveau	D	Gatineau Olympiques [QMJHL]
2021 Entry	194	7	Ryan McCleary	D	Portland Winterhawks [WHL]
2021 Entry	215	7	Daniel Laatsch	D	Sioux City Musketeers [USHL]
2021 Entry	218	7	Kirill Tankov	C	Morozova SKA Varyagi [Russia-2]
2020 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2020 Entry	52	2	Joel Blomqvist	G	Karpat [SM-liiga]
2020 Entry	77	3	Calle Clang	G	Kristianstad Jrs. (Sweden)
2020 Entry	108	4	Lukas Svejkovsky	C	Medicine Hat Tigers [WHL]
2020 Entry	149	5	Raivis Ansons	R	Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL]
2020 Entry	170	6	Chase Yoder	F	U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL]
2019 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2019 Entry	21	1	Samuel Poulin	R	Sherbrooke Phoenix [QMJHL]	3	0	1	1	2
2019 Entry	74	3	Nathan Legare	R	Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL]
2019 Entry	145	5	Judd Caulfield	R	U.S. National Development Team [USHL]
2019 Entry	203	7	Valtteri Puustinen	R	HPK Hameenlinna [SM-liiga]	1	0	1	1	0
2019 Entry	211	7	Santeri Airola	D	Saipa [Finland Jrs.]
2018 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2018 Entry	53	2	Calen Addison	D	Lethbridge Hurricanes [WHL]	80	5	28	33	24
2018 Entry	58	2	Filip Hallander	C	Timra IK [Swe-1]	3	0	0	0	0
2018 Entry	129	5	Justin Almeida	C	Moose Jaw Warriors [WHL]
2018 Entry	177	6	Liam Gorman	F	St. Sebastian's School (Mass. H.S.)

 

 

As director of European scouting 

 

2017 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2017 Entry	51	2	Zachary Lauzon	D	Rouyn-Noranda Huskies [QMJHL]
2017 Entry	93	3	Clayton Phillips	D	Fargo Force [USHL]
2017 Entry	152	5	Jan Drozg	R	Leksand [Sweden-Jrs]
2017 Entry	155	5	Linus Olund	C	Brynas IF Gavle [SweHL]
2017 Entry	186	6	Antti Palojarvi	D	Lukko [Finland-Jrs]
2017 Entry	217	7	Will Reilly	D	R.P.I. [ECAC]
2016 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2016 Entry	55	2	Filip Gustavsson	G	Lulea HF [SweHL]	66	0	1	1	0
2016 Entry	61	2	Kasper Bjorkqvist	R	Blues Jrs (Finland)	6	1	0	1	2
2016 Entry	77	3	Connor Hall	D	Kitchener Rangers [OHL]
2016 Entry	121	4	Ryan Jones	D	Lincoln Stars [USHL]
2016 Entry	151	5	Niclas Almari	D	Jokerit Jrs (Finland)
2016 Entry	181	6	Joe Masonius	D	U. of Connecticut [H-East]
2015 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2015 Entry	46	2	Daniel Sprong	R	Charlottetown Islanders [QMJHL]	268	67	49	116	44
2015 Entry	137	5	Dominik Simon	C	Plzen HC [Czech]	256	22	55	77	80
2015 Entry	167	6	Frederik Tiffels	F	Western Michigan University [NCHC]
2015 Entry	197	7	Nikita Pavlychev	C	Des Moines Buccaneers [USHL]
2014 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2014 Entry	22	1	Kasperi Kapanen	R	KalPa Kuopio [SM-liiga]	387	78	108	186	96
2014 Entry	113	4	Sam Lafferty	C	Deerfield Academy (Mass. H.S.)	210	23	36	59	118
2014 Entry	145	5	Anthony Angello	C	Omaha Lancers [USHL]	31	3	2	5	14
2014 Entry	173	6	Jaden Lindo	R	Owen Sound Attack [OHL]
2014 Entry	203	7	Jeff Taylor	D	Union College [ECAC]
2013 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2013 Entry	44	2	Tristan Jarry	G	Edmonton Oil Kings [WHL]	206	0	10	10	20
2013 Entry	77	3	Jake Guentzel	L	Sioux City Musketeers [USHL]	453	197	217	414	210
2013 Entry	119	4	Ryan Segalla	D	Salisbury (Conn. H.S.)
2013 Entry	164	6	Dane Birks	D	Merritt Centennials [BCHL]
2013 Entry	179	6	Blaine Byron	C	Smiths Falls Bears [CCHL]
2013 Entry	209	7	Troy Josephs	C	St. Michael's Buzzers [OJHL]

 

 

His best picks are Kapanen, Calen Addison, Dominik Simon

 

Thats a lot of picks sure they aren't high picks but to have only those 3 to show for it. You'd have better odds throwing darts at names on a wall blindfolded.  

 

JB took with Allvins quality of picks  Mccann, Forsling, Boeser, Hoglander, Gaudette, Tryamkin, Klimovie among others who have yet to have a chance at the NHL level. 

 

Get over it Benning is gone you can stop slandering him. It's not like the guy was out to sink the franchise like some evil villain. He may not have been the best guy for the job and made mistakes but he did good too and he did have the teams best interests at heart. 

 

If you should be upset with anyone it's probably Frankie and the Sedins who pushed for Loui and OEL.

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, hammertime said:

Alvin's draft record is not good though Alf. 

 

 As pitts director of a scouting 

2021 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2021 Entry	58	2	Tristan Broz	C	Fargo Force [USHL]
2021 Entry	154	5	Isaac Belliveau	D	Gatineau Olympiques [QMJHL]
2021 Entry	194	7	Ryan McCleary	D	Portland Winterhawks [WHL]
2021 Entry	215	7	Daniel Laatsch	D	Sioux City Musketeers [USHL]
2021 Entry	218	7	Kirill Tankov	C	Morozova SKA Varyagi [Russia-2]
2020 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2020 Entry	52	2	Joel Blomqvist	G	Karpat [SM-liiga]
2020 Entry	77	3	Calle Clang	G	Kristianstad Jrs. (Sweden)
2020 Entry	108	4	Lukas Svejkovsky	C	Medicine Hat Tigers [WHL]
2020 Entry	149	5	Raivis Ansons	R	Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL]
2020 Entry	170	6	Chase Yoder	F	U.S. National Under-18 Team [USHL]
2019 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2019 Entry	21	1	Samuel Poulin	R	Sherbrooke Phoenix [QMJHL]	3	0	1	1	2
2019 Entry	74	3	Nathan Legare	R	Baie-Comeau Drakkar [QMJHL]
2019 Entry	145	5	Judd Caulfield	R	U.S. National Development Team [USHL]
2019 Entry	203	7	Valtteri Puustinen	R	HPK Hameenlinna [SM-liiga]	1	0	1	1	0
2019 Entry	211	7	Santeri Airola	D	Saipa [Finland Jrs.]
2018 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2018 Entry	53	2	Calen Addison	D	Lethbridge Hurricanes [WHL]	80	5	28	33	24
2018 Entry	58	2	Filip Hallander	C	Timra IK [Swe-1]	3	0	0	0	0
2018 Entry	129	5	Justin Almeida	C	Moose Jaw Warriors [WHL]
2018 Entry	177	6	Liam Gorman	F	St. Sebastian's School (Mass. H.S.)

 

 

As director of European scouting 

 

2017 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2017 Entry	51	2	Zachary Lauzon	D	Rouyn-Noranda Huskies [QMJHL]
2017 Entry	93	3	Clayton Phillips	D	Fargo Force [USHL]
2017 Entry	152	5	Jan Drozg	R	Leksand [Sweden-Jrs]
2017 Entry	155	5	Linus Olund	C	Brynas IF Gavle [SweHL]
2017 Entry	186	6	Antti Palojarvi	D	Lukko [Finland-Jrs]
2017 Entry	217	7	Will Reilly	D	R.P.I. [ECAC]
2016 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2016 Entry	55	2	Filip Gustavsson	G	Lulea HF [SweHL]	66	0	1	1	0
2016 Entry	61	2	Kasper Bjorkqvist	R	Blues Jrs (Finland)	6	1	0	1	2
2016 Entry	77	3	Connor Hall	D	Kitchener Rangers [OHL]
2016 Entry	121	4	Ryan Jones	D	Lincoln Stars [USHL]
2016 Entry	151	5	Niclas Almari	D	Jokerit Jrs (Finland)
2016 Entry	181	6	Joe Masonius	D	U. of Connecticut [H-East]
2015 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2015 Entry	46	2	Daniel Sprong	R	Charlottetown Islanders [QMJHL]	268	67	49	116	44
2015 Entry	137	5	Dominik Simon	C	Plzen HC [Czech]	256	22	55	77	80
2015 Entry	167	6	Frederik Tiffels	F	Western Michigan University [NCHC]
2015 Entry	197	7	Nikita Pavlychev	C	Des Moines Buccaneers [USHL]
2014 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2014 Entry	22	1	Kasperi Kapanen	R	KalPa Kuopio [SM-liiga]	387	78	108	186	96
2014 Entry	113	4	Sam Lafferty	C	Deerfield Academy (Mass. H.S.)	210	23	36	59	118
2014 Entry	145	5	Anthony Angello	C	Omaha Lancers [USHL]	31	3	2	5	14
2014 Entry	173	6	Jaden Lindo	R	Owen Sound Attack [OHL]
2014 Entry	203	7	Jeff Taylor	D	Union College [ECAC]
2013 Entry
Draft	Num.	Round	Player	Pos	Drafted From	GP	G	A	Pts	PIM
2013 Entry	44	2	Tristan Jarry	G	Edmonton Oil Kings [WHL]	206	0	10	10	20
2013 Entry	77	3	Jake Guentzel	L	Sioux City Musketeers [USHL]	453	197	217	414	210
2013 Entry	119	4	Ryan Segalla	D	Salisbury (Conn. H.S.)
2013 Entry	164	6	Dane Birks	D	Merritt Centennials [BCHL]
2013 Entry	179	6	Blaine Byron	C	Smiths Falls Bears [CCHL]
2013 Entry	209	7	Troy Josephs	C	St. Michael's Buzzers [OJHL]

 

 

His best picks are Kapanen, Calen Addison, Dominik Simon

 

Thats a lot of picks sure they aren't high picks but to have only those 3 to show for it. You'd have better odds throwing darts at names on a wall blindfolded.  

 

JB took with Allvins quality of picks  Mccann, Forsling, Boeser, Hoglander, Gaudette, Tryamkin, Klimovie among others who have yet to have a chance at the NHL level. 

 

Get over it Benning is gone you can stop slandering him. It's not like the guy was out to sink the franchise like some evil villain. He may not have been the best guy for the job and made mistakes but he did good too and he did have the teams best interests at heart. 

 

If you should be upset with anyone it's probably Frankie and the Sedins who pushed for Loui and OEL.

Where was he drafting in Pittsburgh? his only high pick is awesome. Lekkerimaki is clearly a steal at 15. Don’t know why a Canuck fan would think otherwise. 
Unless that fan wants Benning back!

[hammertime]

1 minute ago, Alflives said:

Where was he drafting in Pittsburgh? his only high pick is awesome. Lekkerimaki is clearly a steal at 15. Don’t know why a Canuck fan would think otherwise. 
Unless that fan wants Benning back!

LOL clearly. Those 2ndary assists in the playoffs were Bossyesque. We'll see I hope he has a great year this year the SHL will be a good test. I don't wan't JB back but I also feel like how you go out of your way to spew Benning hate is pretty poor fanship or whatever you want to call it. The guy may not have been the best GM but I don't think he deserves the type of dehumanizing spite you have for him. End of the day he was just a guy trying to do his best and his best wasn't good enough.  

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[Ilunga]

1 hour ago, hammertime said:

Here's a fun list I stumbled across. Not saying it's good or bad but they predicted 28 of the 32 1st rounders last year. There are some hot takes for sure.

 

https://soundofhockey.com/2023/06/02/a-data-driven-look-at-the-top-250-prospects-in-the-2023-nhl-draft/

No Stramel or Halttunen in a list 250 players ? 

 

Oliver Moore at 48.

Williander 185, Strbak at 184.

Edstrom at 163.

Just to name a few that are completely way out of the general consensus of most scouting reports/ organisations.

 

I hope all the other teams are focusing on this list. 

 

Data driven Eh ?

Did Dubas have anything to do with this list.

[hammertime]

3 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:

 

 

 

Thanks for posting. I'm always excited to see how the kids do 

[hammertime]

10 minutes ago, Ilunga said:

No Stramel or Halttunen in a list 250 players ? 

 

Oliver Moore at 48.

Williander 185, Strbak at 184.

Edstrom at 163.

Just to name a few that are completely way out of the general consensus of most scouting reports/ organisations.

 

I hope all the other teams are focusing on this list. 

 

Data driven Eh ?

Did Dubas have anything to do with this list.

Oh for sure it's not so much scouting at all. It's just an algorythm basically putting the kids in order based on their production across different valued leagues. It's more just interesting. Or not? I wouldn't put any stock into it. Just thought it was a fun fluff piece. It might put some kids on the radar you hadn't thought of. 

 

I don't think Simashev is on there either because he has 0 points but so did Danila Yurov. So the algorithm misses them. 

 

Edited June 6, 2023 by hammertime

[Ilunga]

2 minutes ago, hammertime said:

Oh for sure it's not so much scouting at all. It's just an algorythm basically putting the kids in order based on their production across different valued leagues. It's more just interesting. Or not? I wouldn't put any stock into it. Just thought it was a fun fluff piece. It might put some kids on the radar you hadn't thought of. 

Oh thanks for posting, any information pertaining to the draft is both helpful and interesting.

While I understand what they are trying to do, this misses on quite a few fronts.

 

If you want to get into the obvious " fault " ,they rank some players on their performance in the games they played in the senior leagues, not taking into account games and points scored in the junior leagues played by players who played in both leagues this year coming into the draft.

 

 

[Odd.]

13 minutes ago, Ilunga said:

No Stramel or Halttunen in a list 250 players ? 

 

Oliver Moore at 48.

Williander 185, Strbak at 184.

Edstrom at 163.

Just to name a few that are completely way out of the general consensus of most scouting reports/ organisations.

 

I hope all the other teams are focusing on this list. 

 

Data driven Eh ?

Did Dubas have anything to do with this list.

Yea that’s some Chayka level of crappiness. They don’t even have Simashev on there.

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https://www.nhl.com/canucks/video/t-277437438

 

 

@-Vintage Canuck- any chance you could embed this video? 

I don't remember seeing it posted anywhere in the draft section. 

 

Allvin and the Chipmunks in their scouting meetings, 2023.