bertuzzi44fan Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Time for an earth shattering trade boys :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Posted this in a group chat : “The team has no Jovo, Bieksa, Edler, Salo, Mitchell, kinda guys and no partner around them to allow them to excel. What a gross dcorps the Canucks have.” Awesome forwards, awesome goalie, shit Defence. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNuCkSLoUiE23 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 How long is Mikheyev out for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Who’s that bud? Lazar? We have 4 decent centres. The team needs to build around them. And it’s not the team’s Centers that are the biggest issues. It’s D-Corps. And culture of being passive and not ‘hard’ to play against. It’s a ‘weak’ team overall. There’s no body checking or physicality, aside from the 4th line. It’s just a bunch or guys who don’t want to lay it out. It’s not even close to what we all expect. Even the Sedins are probably thinking, ‘Man up and stop being such pussies’. If you think we lost either game to start the season because of our defence only I cannot agree. 5 on 5 we have played well. We have lost both games on special teams. our PK was far better this game. I agree in the sense to be a true cup contender we need to upgrade our defence. but right now it is Miller it is Horvat it is our PP that’s the problem. shorthanded goals against in two games all involved: petey, Horvat and Miller. We almost gave them a breakaway on another PP too. miller has been on the ice for how many goals against now? horvats done what so far? Kyle Burroughs just stood up to probably the second toughest skater in the entire league without hesitating. I don’t think toughness is the problem right now it’s: Attitude and Heart and it starts from our leaders Miller and Horvat. They both need to be better, and our PP needs to be FAR better. in two games we have had: 13 POWERPLAYS 1 goal 2 short handed against this is atrocious for a team that NEEDS to have a powerplay that punishes the other team to discourage taking cheap shots at our stars. the fact we’ve blown two leads in back to back games and have been scored on more than we have scored goals for on our PP is an issue that doesn’t involve our defence at all. also I believe it was Lazar who lost the draw that lead to deangelos goal? Was his strong side but big defensive draw on PK. It happens though and they had like 4/5 pps in a row they were bound to score. Edited October 16, 2022 by R3aL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, CaNuCkSLoUiE23 said: How long is Mikheyev out for? Ya, his one week injury is looking more like at least a month. We need his speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, R3aL said: If you think we lost either game to start the season because of our defence only I cannot agree. 5 on 5 we have played well. We have lost both games on special teams. our PK was far better this game. I agree in the sense to be a true cup contender we need to upgrade our defence. but right now it is Miller it is Horvat it is our PP that’s the problem. shorthanded goals against in two games all involved: petey, Horvat and Miller. We almost gave them a breakaway on another PP too. miller has been on the ice for how many goals against now? horvats done what so far? Kyle Burroughs just stood up to probably the second toughest skater in the entire league without hesitating. I don’t think toughness is the problem right now it’s: Attitude and Heart and it starts from our leaders Miller and Horvat. They both need to be better, and our PP needs to be FAR better. in two games we have had: 13 POWERPLAYS 1 goal 2 short handed against this is atrocious for a team that NEEDS to have a powerplay that punishes the other team to discourage taking cheap shots at our stars. the fact we’ve blown two leads in back to back games and have been scored on more than we have scored goals for on our PP is an issue that doesn’t invoke our defence at all. also I believe it was Lazar who lost the draw that lead to deangelos goal? Was his strong side but big defensive draw on PK. It happens though and they had like 4/5 pps in a row they were bound to score. Yup. Our top guys are letting us down. We need to “shake up” the country club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Ya, his one week injury is looking more like at least a month. We need his speed. Think we need his speed his pking and I think he needs to skate with miller for a little bit to cover his ass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, R3aL said: Think we need his speed his pking and I think he needs to skate with miller for a little bit to cover his ass Has JTM always looked this slow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 minute ago, R3aL said: If you think we lost either game to start the season because of our defence only I cannot agree. 5 on 5 we have played well. We have lost both games on special teams. our PK was far better this game. I agree in the sense to be a true cup contender we need to upgrade our defence. but right now it is Miller it is Horvat it is our PP that’s the problem. shorthanded goals against in two games all involved: petey, Horvat and Miller. We almost gave them a breakaway on another PP too. miller has been on the ice for how many goals against now? horvats done what so far? Kyle Burroughs just stood up to probably the second toughest skater in the entire league without hesitating. I don’t think toughness is the problem right now it’s: Attitude and Heart and it starts from our leaders Miller and Horvat. They both need to be better, and our PP needs to be FAR better. in two games we have had: 13 POWERPLAYS 1 goal 2 short handed against this is atrocious for a team that NEEDS to have a powerplay that punishes the other team to discourage taking cheap shots at our stars. the fact we’ve blown two leads in back to back games and have been scored on more than we have scored goals for on our PP is an issue that doesn’t invoke our defence at all. also I believe it was Lazar who lost the draw that lead to deangelos goal? Was his strong side but big defensive draw on PK. It happens though and they had like 4/5 pps in a row they were bound to score. Excellent post. Well thought out. Thank you. I disagree with some of it and I’ll reply a bit late; either when I’ve had more to drink or less. No promises either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: I get your thoughts. We simply don’t have it. The priority is on D other than another forward. Thats my point and I think the underlying deficiency. Just my opinion of course and as valid as yours my friend. You are not wrong. Priority is D. That is why I would stack the lines. Miller, Horvat, Pettersson, Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Podkolzin/Garland should be our top 6. No changes to that. Pearson - Miller - Boeser won’t give you much production compared to Miller - Pettersson - Kuz. With the remaining top wingers move them for RHD’s and a shutdown 3C centre. Move out one or couple of these guys: Boeser, Garland, Pearson, Hogs as maybe a sweetner. Get RHD and a 3C. We get a better defensive core and a shutdown 3C centre who will take some of the workload off Bo. Allow Bo to focus more offensively. Of course, easier said than done, but I don’t think we need to be this stacked with wingers especially when we are lacking in other places. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, Alflives said: Yup. Our top guys are letting us down. We need to “shake up” the country club? due to the injuries / flu to start season on top of the road trip I think they are going to get 6-10 games to see how things level out then to 20 to see if we progress. Or if it’s going to be same old song and dance. because our 5 on 5 play is good and our defence is stepping up. if these “stars” can’t get their crap together they can’t keep blaming coaches for their attitude and ya country club arrogance. The way they managed the puck on the PP was very frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, J-23 said: You are not wrong. Priority is D. That is why I would stack the lines. Miller, Horvat, Pettersson, Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Podkolzin/Garland should be our top 6. No changes to that. Pearson - Miller - Boeser won’t give you much production compared to Miller - Pettersson - Kuz. With the remaining top wingers move them for RHD’s and a shutdown 3C centre. Move out one or couple of these guys: Boeser, Garland, Pearson, Hogs as maybe a sweetner. Get RHD and a 3C. We get a better defensive core and a shutdown 3C centre who will take some of the workload off Bo. Allow Bo to focus more offensively. Of course, easier said than done, but I don’t think we need to be this stacked with wingers especially when we are lacking in other places. I don’t think you’re wrong in moving out those assets and bringing in the defencemen that can help. No point bringing a potentially game breaking dman at TDL. Time is now. Give him/them a chance to gel. Edited October 16, 2022 by Sharpshooter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said: I don’t think you’re wrong in moving out those assets and bringing in the defencemen that can help. No point bringing a potentially game breaking dman at TDL. Time is now. Give him/them a chance to gel. time is now because if we don't, we might lose the season again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Hmmm, and here I was told we have the best offensive depth in the league. We're a contender! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, CaNuCkSLoUiE23 said: How long is Mikheyev out for? Until he gets his head right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted October 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2022 Two games into the season, and among all NHL skaters with 20+ minutes played at 5v5, JT Miller has the 4th worst xGF% (16.65) and the absolute worst xGF%REL in the entire NHL (-47.61). Today, during his 10:39 5v5TOI, he was a 6.05 xGF% and a -64.64 xGF%REL. Gotta assume he’s gonna be better next game and continue to play better moving forward. Pretty hard to be any worse. As for Pearson-Miller-Boeser, it’s true that that line as a whole hasn’t been good (17.51 xGF%). But, at least by the stats, it’s Miller who’s really been the problem. In Boeser’s shifts without Miller, he’s been a perfectly respectable 57.69 xGF%. Similarly, Pearson without Miller is a 52.00 xGF%. However, Miller playing without Pearson, Boeser, or both, has been a dismal 0.00 xGF%. Miller has yet to earn even a single measly Corsi-for event at 5v5 without one or both of Boeser and Pearson on the ice. He’s literally zeroes across the board in his 5v5 minutes without them. And Boeser and Pearson have just as many scoring chances this year in a few minutes played without Miller as that entire line (with Miller) has on the season. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Has JTM always looked this slow? Well boeser is skating extremely slower than he was at the end of the season last year similar to how he started last year, a step behind and for a guy already on the slower side it’s really noticeable rn. He needs to do some power skating work in the off-season. And if he is already he needs to make a change in program / coach. pearson isnt fast so the combo might be slowing him down. I haven’t really noticed him looking slow but I think he’s thinking the game defensively slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, Canucks Curse said: time is now because if we don't, we might lose the season again It’s not hyperbole, nor overdramatizing to say that. We all saw this last season. It was the first part of the season that screwed the playoff chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, Sharpshooter said: It’s not hyperbole, nor overdramatizing to say that. We all saw this last season. It was the first part of the season that screwed the playoff chances. which is why I do not understand why these guys are coming out so gentle, flat and disinterested... speaks to lack of leadership and stale core.... fitting we played torti's team today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 See you all later. Maybe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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