-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, naslund.is.king said: Someone needs to start a bedard chant at the next home game A bigger message from the business side of things would be if the attendance is extremely low for the next few home games. I don't see any major changes until there is a big impact to the revenue, leaving the management with no choice but to strip it down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, R3aL said: Probably much better off wouldn’t have done the OEL trade and he probably wouldn’t of moved the needle for awhile not changing our future draft outcomes by much. . Or we would have rushed Sergachev and forced him into too large a role early and wrecked him. he was the guy I wanted at that draft. I was dead set against tkachuk I really thought he was a complimentary player with a trash attitude. I was half wrong half right and he would have left us like he did Calgary unless he boeser miller and Hughes were all happy happy and he loved playing with petey. But I do think if we got tkachuk our future picks would have been impacted and not as good overall. Totally agree....I was thinking Sergachev wouldn't have taken the time needed to get NHL ready and so EP and QH would have been possibilities still. They wanted to draft a D at that point and they did......just took the wrong one. Hindsight.....sigh. But like you said, he may not have developed with the Canucks in the same way (which is a tragic knock on the Canucks history in my opinion). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, J-23 said: If not, he will bring back a big haul, help accelerate it. That's the ticket......EP is fantastic, but timing is everything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: A bigger message from the business side of things would be if the attendance is extremely low for the next few home games. I don't see any major changes until there is a big impact to the revenue, leaving the management with no choice but to strip it down. You nailed it with the last three words......"Strip it down, Strip it down....". That should be the chant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: A bigger message from the business side of things would be if the attendance is extremely low for the next few home games. I don't see any major changes until there is a big impact to the revenue, leaving the management with no choice but to strip it down. I live in SK so attendance is a unrealized factor for me Do numbers actually go way down when they suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, NHL97OneTimer said: That's the ticket......EP is fantastic, but timing is everything If we get Bedard, Fantilli or Carlsson I don’t see Pettersson leaving in the short-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: I’ve stopped reading his articles this year but is he taking the next step and trying to explain why the team is underperforming all the “models” that had us a lot closer to the playoffs than the cellar? To me that’s the big issue and why I’m fine if management just blows it up. 3 years of underperforming the roster talent. This group is just wasting everyone’s time and as much as we all want to blame Miller you really don’t know who to blame until pieces start to move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, stawns said: I posted this in another thread, but curious about what people think I love Demko, but I am finding myself warming up to moving him if this season is gone and if management shows they are shaking things up in a significant way. Looking at teams who might need a goalie, Carolina seems like the obvious destination.........what would be an acceptable return on a Demko? Necas Andersen 1st does that make it worthwhile for Van? For Carolina? For fans? I mean demko would be unbelievable in Carolina. A team that plays a strong defensive structure. So he wouldn’t have to guess or cheat on plays when their are constant breakdowns. And a confident demko would be a nightmare for other teams playing Carolina. But Necas is looking unbelievable this season for them and a 1st round pick in the deepest draft in awhile I just don’t see them making that trade when demkos value is at an all time low and Necas at an all time high they’d be pulling a key member out from their forward group that’s gelling together beautifully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: I’ve stopped reading his articles this year but is he taking the next step and trying to explain why the team is underperforming all the “models” that had us a lot closer to the playoffs than the cellar? To me that’s the big issue and why I’m fine if management just blows it up. 3 years of underperforming the roster talent. This group is just wasting everyone’s time and as much as we all want to blame Miller you really don’t know who to blame until pieces start to move. I don’t think Miller is the biggest problem, but I do think he fetches a solid return of what we need. Move him for a rhd/prospect/pick package. Then pick one of Boeser/Garland, then move Myers would be a solid start. Sign Bo and Kuz to term as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: A bigger message from the business side of things would be if the attendance is extremely low for the next few home games. I don't see any major changes until there is a big impact to the revenue, leaving the management with no choice but to strip it down. I can’t even give employees Canucks tickets for Christmas gift anymore. Last year was first year I changed that now this year looks to be the same situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted November 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2022 Reddit had the right idea 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: I don’t think Miller is the biggest problem, but I do think he fetches a solid return of what we need. Move him for a rhd/prospect/pick package. Then pick one of Boeser/Garland, then move Myers would be a solid start. Sign Bo and Kuz to term as well. He also doesn't fit the timeline if we're looking at being bad for at least a few years. Forwards tend to fall off earlier than D do, I reckon he maybe has three more seasons of top end production. His best remaining years would be wasted on a rebuilding team. Plus, even if we can free up some of his cap it'd allow us to take on a short term headache contract from someone else along with more assets. Those are the kind of moves we should be making if we're going to be bad, the kind of moves Arizona's made. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Muttley said: That's ridiculous for a plenitude of reasons. Miller totally cares about this team even if he isn't having the year he had in 21-22. Cares about the team. Messier was here for the cash and to use Bure as a means to bolster his overall record. There are stories about the Lays man from his days in Edmonton that are disturbing or so some older friends of mine told me who lived there. Maybe he means a comparison of miller signing before horvat. And messier signing whilst displacing linden? . In that regard there is a slight similarity. But your right miller does seem to care. But The constant anger and frown does make me wonder who it’s directed at. Himself or certain team mates ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 What a painful game to watch today!! Here is my take so far with this team: 1) Myers plays like he is 5.5 inches!!! Horrible bad penalties all the time!! 2) No one sticks up for anyone on this team!!! Podz had to take his matters into his own hands today and no one did anything!! That was super sad to see and not surprised!! 3) 4th line should be hitting and banging people out there. Big guys like Joshua I was hoping he would invite Greer for a fight!! Strudnick he is horrible out there...he don't hit and he is not skillful!! Why are we benching Kuz over this guy??? 4) Dries over Kuz don't make any sense to me? 5) We should keep Burrough's in the line up...we need more grit, toughness, and heart on this team!! 6) Boeser definitely not cutting it!!! We need to make some big moves 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, stawns said: 4th from the bottom, not at the bottom STL is 1 point behind with 3 games in hand. CBJ 2 pts behind with 2 games in hand. Ducks are 2 pts behind with 1 hand in game. 4 of the next 5 games against top teams. At this point it's a matter of if we're worse than Anaheim. We are the bottom. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 There was an article from this summer, "Penguins Starting to See Effects of Rutherford’s Poor Decision Making". The bolded part below sounds a lot like the situation the Canucks are in right now: Quote Rutherford brought Mike Sullivan, Phil Kessel, and most importantly, two Cups to Pittsburgh. But all that came at a price the Penguins are already repaying. Next to no solid prospects, you can build your future around. No cap space to think of. And contracts that aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. Sure, everyone wants the team to win now, but at what cost? https://thehockeywriters.com/penguins-rutherford-poor-decision-making-effects/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: There is an article from this summer, "Penguins Starting to See Effects of Rutherford’s Poor Decision Making". The bolded part below sounds a lot like the situation the Canucks are in right now: https://thehockeywriters.com/penguins-rutherford-poor-decision-making-effects/ Been watching urinatingtree on YouTube, huge pens fan and he’s been complaining about this with Rutherford for years, hell Rutherford was the one who thought Gudbranson for Pearson was a good trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, J-23 said: If we get Bedard, Fantilli or Carlsson I don’t see Pettersson leaving in the short-term. You could be right but this team needs so much change in culture that it would have to be a very quick rebuild.....like by the end of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Reddit had the right idea "We are a team" and the classic messier sign off had me. Let'r rip JR! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, KelownaCanucksFan said: Been watching urinatingtree on YouTube, huge pens fan and he’s been complaining about this with Rutherford for years, hell Rutherford was the one who thought Gudbranson for Pearson was a good trade He’s not the first gm to make a mistake with gudbranson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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