[Trade] Sharks trade Timo Meier, Scott Harrington, Timur Ibragimov, Santeri Hatakka, Zach Emond, 2024 5th-RD to Devils for Fabian Zetterlund, Andreas Johnsson, Nikita Okhotiuk, Shakir Mukhamadullin, 2023 1st-RD, conditional 2024 1st-RD, 2024 7th-RD

[mll]

2 minutes ago, stawns said:

Must start with holtz, as I can't see them moving Nemec for a rental fwd.

Probably similar situation as with Horvat to NYI where Lamoriello already knew he could extend him although he hadn't officially spoken to his agent.  

 

No other team were offering a former 2nd overall - Carolina/Vegas were playoff teams and have never picked that high.  No reason for NJD to even consider it.  They only have to beat the other suitors.

 

Edited February 26, 2023 by mll

[stawns]

Just now, DeNiro said:

The Devils aren’t looking for a center. 
 

Which team would have paid more? The Hurricanes?

Some teams are likely looking for both a w and a C.  As big names disappear, other teams get desperate.  He might have been a great option for Carolina who are probably getting antsy at the big names coming into their conference, and they got some great, young players.

 

At the very least, they probably could have squeezed more out of LouLam

 

[HKSR]

2 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

The Devils aren’t looking for a center. 
 

Which team would have paid more? The Hurricanes?

Nah he keeps harping on how we should have waited until the TDL to trade Bo.  Somehow Beauvillier, Raty, and a mid 1st isn't enough.

[JustABandwagoner]

4 minutes ago, stawns said:

PA should have waited on Bo, imo.

 

Nah, Alvin pretty much wanted the highest possible 1st round pick in 2023 

[stawns]

Just now, mll said:

Probably similar situation as with Horvat to NYI where Lamoriello already knew he could extend him although he hadn't officially spoken to his agent.  

Certainly possible.  

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Isn’t Meier a coming RFA? Devils can Qualify him or extend him. They have him next year and they know that. 

[HKSR]

Just now, 24K PureCool said:

You ain't gonna beat the 13th overall p8ck or better with any other team. 

Right? That NYI 1st is worth a TON given this 2023 draft.

[stawns]

Just now, HKSR said:

Nah he keeps harping on how we should have waited until the TDL to trade Bo.  Somehow Beauvillier, Raty, and a mid 1st isn't enough.

You would have turned down more coming back?

 

"Naw, we're good".......that would be your game plan?

[DeNiro]

Just now, stawns said:

Some teams are likely looking for both a w and a C.  As big names disappear, other teams get desperate.  He might have been a great option for Carolina who are probably getting antsy at the big names coming into their conference, and they got some great, young players.

 

At the very least, they probably could have squeezed more out of LouLam

 

Doubtful.

 

Lou would have moved on as he’s not a very patient man. Then we lose out on getting the best 1st in a deal.

[stawns]

Just now, HKSR said:

Right? That NYI 1st is worth a TON given this 2023 draft.

No more than any other year, really.  If it weren't protected, I'd agree

 

[fanofvan]

1 minute ago, HKSR said:

Nah he keeps harping on how we should have waited until the TDL to trade Bo.  Somehow Beauvillier, Raty, and a mid 1st isn't enough.

Probably could have gotten Kotkaniemi!

[HKSR]

Just now, stawns said:

No more than any other year, really.  If it weren't protected, I'd agree

 

Ok then.

[stawns]

Just now, DeNiro said:

Doubtful.

 

Lou would have moved on as he’s not a very patient man. Then we lose out on getting the best 1st in a deal.

Why would he move on?  Impatience?  Doubtful.

 

Again, unprotected, I'd agree.  

[stawns]

1 minute ago, fanofvan said:

Probably could have gotten Kotkaniemi!

As a starter, sure.  

 

Kotkaniemi, Morrow and a first would have been pretty sweet, no?

 

[Nave]

Eager to see what the return is.

[HKSR]

1 minute ago, stawns said:

You would have turned down more coming back?

 

"Naw, we're good".......that would be your game plan?

Your fantasies are not reality.  We got an amazing haul for Bo.  You can disagree if you want cuz that's what you always do, but the return on Bo is still the best return of any trade so far.

[DeNiro]

1 minute ago, stawns said:

No more than any other year, really.  If it weren't protected, I'd agree

 

So you’d risk Lou walking away so that we might get an extra 2nd?

 

Not worth the risk. The Isles offered the best pick we were gonna get and a top prospect. That first is worth an extra 2nd anyways.

[hammertime]

Just now, stawns said:

You would have turned down more coming back?

 

"Naw, we're good".......that would be your game plan?

[mll]

1 minute ago, DeNiro said:

Doubtful.

 

Lou would have moved on as he’s not a very patient man. Then we lose out on getting the best 1st in a deal.

Waddell of Carolina revealed that Allvin was honest from the get go that he was looking to get the highest 1st round pick possible.  Carolina would have likely never been in the mix as divisional winners.  

 

[stawns]

4 minutes ago, mll said:

Probably similar situation as with Horvat to NYI where Lamoriello already knew he could extend him although he hadn't officially spoken to his agent.  

 

No other team were offering a former 2nd overall - Carolina/Vegas were playoff teams and have never picked that high.  No reason for NJD to even consider it.  They only have to beat the other suitors.

 

Sounds like that's not the case, no extension in place