204CanucksFan Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 49 minutes ago, canuckwings said: Button does seem to have a good track record of identifying talent, which makes me worried that Reinbacher dropped to #24 and he's still there at 11th when we pick. Fret not, he had Seider at #26 for his final rankings in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Leonard is my hope but I don't think he's going be there either. I think we're going to see some jaw dropping selections in the top 15. Yeah Leonard looks great too, probably my 2nd pick over Reinbacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, 204CanucksFan said: Fret not, he had Seider at #26 for his final rankings in 2019 There's always some drafting by position that comes into play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, 204CanucksFan said: Fret not, he had Seider at #26 for his final rankings in 2019 SLO Mo was a miss. Guy is a bustaroo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckwings Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, 204CanucksFan said: Fret not, he had Seider at #26 for his final rankings in 2019 That means Yzerman will snatch him before we do lol... Reinbacher that is Edited May 16, 2023 by canuckwings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Benson is falling like a rock according to these two. Maybe we trade down? Them not rating him high doesn’t mean someone won’t pick them based on their own list… it just means there is a greater likelihood he isn’t worth the higher pick someone might take them at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Pronman 5-15th 5. Danielson Smith Reinbacher But Barlow Honzek 11. Dvorsky Yager Benson Moore 15. Leonard Button 5-15th 5. Sandin-Pelikka Smith Sale Wallinder Dvorsky Barlow 11. Wood Leonard Ritchie Benson 15. Perrault Both are kind of all over the board. Pronman has us taking Dvorsky and Button has us taking Wood. I would take Leonard or Barlow. Dvorsky high on both if he slips. Instead of trading away our 11th OA for Lafreniere like some are saying JUST STOP. Enough trading our 1st rounders, when will the Canucks learn? You can get a third line centre in Dvorsky or later in the draft. Why are we the team that always gets fleeced by smarter GMs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Wyatt Johnston is the reason you do t give up on 1st rounders. Picked #23 OA in the 2021 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Pure961089 said: Instead of trading away our 11th OA for Lafreniere like some are saying JUST STOP. Enough trading our 1st rounders, when will the Canucks learn? You can get a third line centre in Dvorsky or later in the draft. Why are we the team that always gets fleeced by smarter GMs? Seems you have PBSD. We have competent management now. We aren’t trading 11OA unless it’s to move down and get more picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Pure961089 said: Instead of trading away our 11th OA for Lafreniere like some are saying JUST STOP. Enough trading our 1st rounders, when will the Canucks learn? You can get a third line centre in Dvorsky or later in the draft. Why are we the team that always gets fleeced by smarter GMs? Give examples please as many as you can so we can see that we always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, CanuckleHorse said: Give examples please as many as you can so we can see that we always. 8 hours ago, Pure961089 said: Instead of trading away our 11th OA for Lafreniere like some are saying JUST STOP. Enough trading our 1st rounders, when will the Canucks learn? You can get a third line centre in Dvorsky or later in the draft. Why are we the team that always gets fleeced by smarter GMs? @CanuckleHorse here's some backup. @Pure961089, quick answer; we're not. Naslund for Stojanov Luongo for Bertuzzi and Allen Bear and Pederson for a 5th Schmidt for a 3rd Beauvillier, Raty and a 1st for Horvat Hronek for a 1st and 2nd Schenn for a 3rd Hamonic for a 3rd Juolevi for Lammikko and Juulsen Gudbranson for Pearson This is off the top of my head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: @CanuckleHorse here's some backup. @Pure961089, quick answer; we're not. Naslund for Stojanov Luongo for Bertuzzi and Allen Bear and Pederson for a 5th Schmidt for a 3rd Beauvillier, Raty and a 1st for Horvat Hronek for a 1st and 2nd Schenn for a 3rd Hamonic for a 3rd Juolevi for Lammikko and Juulsen Gudbranson for Pearson This is off the top of my head. Edited May 16, 2023 by CanuckleHorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Pure961089 said: Wyatt Johnston is the reason you do t give up on 1st rounders. Picked #23 OA in the 2021 draft. ….how is that an example of not giving up on a 1st rounder? If anything Johnston is an example of a guy hitting his stride right about when a late first rounder should (if not earlier). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Sportsnet's 2023 NHL Draft Prospect Rankings: May Edition https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2023-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-may-edition/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 5/16/2023 at 6:13 AM, CanuckleHorse said: Give examples please as many as you can so we can see that we always. It only takes 1 to cripple a franchise. Honestly I have no complaints so far with Allvin, he's done pretty good, and most of Benning's trades were good. Some glaring mistakes though McCann scoring 40 goals stings, seeing Forsling play so well hurts. Seeing Dylan Guenther looking like a promising star sucks. And we're stuck with OEL. The Canucks don't often get fleeced, but when they do it's a doozy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Pure961089 said: It only takes 1 to cripple a franchise. Honestly I have no complaints so far with Allvin, he's done pretty good, and most of Benning's trades were good. Some glaring mistakes though McCann scoring 40 goals stings, seeing Forsling play so well hurts. Seeing Dylan Guenther looking like a promising star sucks. And we're stuck with OEL. The Canucks don't often get fleeced, but when they do it's a doozy. McCann was happy to go you can’t please everyone and Forsling was a waiver pickup the team that let him go got absolutely nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 6 hours ago, CanuckleHorse said: McCann was happy to go you can’t please everyone and Forsling was a waiver pickup the team that let him go got absolutely nothing. The Canucks have made some good trades as you've mentioned but they've made some blunders as well. I think this management team evaluates talent better than in the past. But here are some. https://thehockeywriters.com/canucks-best-worst-trades-all-time. I totally forgot about Grabner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Pure961089 said: The Canucks have made some good trades as you've mentioned but they've made some blunders as well. I think this management team evaluates talent better than in the past. But here are some. https://thehockeywriters.com/canucks-best-worst-trades-all-time. I totally forgot about Grabner. Coach V wasn’t a fan of Ballard if he used him more that trade would be not so one sided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure961089 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 5/15/2023 at 10:02 AM, Strawbone said: Every time I watch the playoffs, and it's the same this year, I'm reminded that pure skill and goal-scoring does not seem to win cups, despite incredible regular season success. So I hope the Canucks pick a big, gritty, hard-hitting player with enough skill to contribute, but who's strengths lie more in the grind of the playoffs. We do not need more top-end forward talent. Reinbacher, Wood, Leonard, Barlow, Dvorsky, Willander, Danielson, Stenberg in that order for me. If we want size and grit for the playoffs. All great choices at 11 if you're thinking past fancy perimeter players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayinblack Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Pure961089 said: Reinbacher, Wood, Leonard, Barlow, Dvorsky, Willander, Danielson, Stenberg in that order for me. If we want size and grit for the playoffs. All great choices at 11 if you're thinking past fancy perimeter players. And SPEED ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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