DrJockitch Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Guess we will see. It will be interesting to see how he makes out in Florida. I still don't think it was a mistake. I understand the why we signed Mik. But he really didn't help the PK, and that was $4.75 million that didn't need to be spent. Was that when he was playing through injury or on IR for most of the season? Edited July 6, 2023 by DrJockitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Like I said, no fit here with Hughes and Hronek in front of him. But a team needing an offensive PP2 guy, that they can shelter a bit, with an appropriate partner... Absolutely I think he can play that role. He’s 24 with very limited NHL reps. Dominated the A. Great speed, mobility, creative, but buried under already established talent who already serve the same purpose. All he needs is timing and reps. If Tyson Barrie has continued to carve out a career, Boner should be able to as well. he won’t be a player on Team Heffy, but that’s already a limited roster to begin with! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Was that when he was playing through injury or on IR for most of the season? When he was playing. Good thing he gets a fresh start this season. I'll be happy to be proven wrong. He certainly was one of the better forwards when he was with the Leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Last year's team with Vintage Scotty Bowman would struggle to make the playoffs with a horrible PK like it was. That was purely on the coaching staff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Just now, stawns said: That was purely on the coaching staff Pretty sure the players are at least partly responsible. But once again, we will see what happens this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Pretty sure the players are at least partly responsible. But once again, we will see what happens this year. Especially with that dynamic duo OEL and Myers in the back end. The new additions will improve the PK dramatically (including RT’s emphasis on playing the right way) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Especially with that dynamic duo OEL and Myers in the back end. The new additions will improve the PK dramatically (including RT’s emphasis on playing the right way) Batman and Robin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, RWJC said: He’s 24 with very limited NHL reps. Dominated the A. Great speed, mobility, creative, but buried under already established talent who already serve the same purpose. All he needs is timing and reps. If Tyson Barrie has continued to carve out a career, Boner should be able to as well. he won’t be a player on Team Heffy, but that’s already a limited roster to begin with! I'm a fan, but he definitely did not dominate the A. He was #3-4 on their depth chart with Wolanin, Jules and Woo above him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Pretty sure the players are at least partly responsible. But once again, we will see what happens this year. They brought in a new coach, with an actual system and same players. Surprise, surprise, they got much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Batman and Robin? To say I yelled at the TV every time they were on the ice is an understatement. We just have one more saboteur left in Myers and if we can get rid of him then we will 100% make the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, stawns said: They brought in a new coach, with an actual system and same players. Surprise, surprise, they got much better. They brought in a new coach named BB and surprise, surprise the team played better-until they didn't. now they brought in another new coach, and the team played better-but for how long? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Just now, Gurn said: They brought in a new coach named BB and surprise, surprise the team played better-until they didn't. now they brought in another new coach, and the team played better-but for how long? Anyone who watched that season could see the same issues that were there last season, they just had an out of this world goalie to cover the warts. Many of of us were saying exactly that at the time. BB was one of the worst coaching disasters Van has every had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gurn said: They brought in a new coach named BB and surprise, surprise the team played better-until they didn't. now they brought in another new coach, and the team played better-but for how long? That's what scares me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gurn said: They brought in a new coach named BB and surprise, surprise the team played better-until they didn't. now they brought in another new coach, and the team played better-but for how long? Hang on there. BB’s coaching bump was mainly Dem playing like Martin Brodeur and JT playing like Mario Lemieux. The defence was absolute sh!t and the team was not playing the right way with “structure”. RT’s coach bump is completely different. Far more sustainable. Let’s just hope they haven’t forgotten. Edited July 6, 2023 by grandmaster 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Just now, stawns said: Anyone who watched that season could see the same issues that were there last season, they just had an out of this world goalie to cover the warts. Many of of us were saying exactly that at the time. BB was one of the worst coaching disasters Van has every had. Even more than Torts playing the Twins and Kesler to death? I dunno about that. That was pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Even more than Torts playing the Twins and Kesler to death? I dunno about that. That was pretty bad. That was bad, no argument here. Equally as bad, if not worse imo. At least Torts (who is my all time least favourite coach) had some kind of system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, stawns said: I'm a fan, but he definitely did not dominate the A. He was #3-4 on their depth chart with Wolanin, Jules and Woo above him Depends on criteria. Im saying he’s dominated the A in terms of his own personal capabilities, not that he’s the MVP of the league or something. As a very young player, I’d say his stats show he’s heavily succeeded as an offensively deployed Dman in the A. He’s had a blip recently since being demoted from the big club, but he’s proven he can run the offense from the back end. That’s dominant for a player in their 20s, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, stawns said: Anyone who watched that season lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gurn said: They brought in a new coach named BB and surprise, surprise the team played better-until they didn't. now they brought in another new coach, and the team played better-but for how long? Well, that’s why we’re seeing wholesale changes when it comes to this club and how it’s managed. The roster performed because of bumps, but the makeup wasn’t/isn’t sufficient for longterm, continual success. Bad mix of talent. New systems play often requires new blood. Methinks we’re on the right track now, at least in terms of developing a playoff-ready roster that won’t wilt come physical hockey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, RWJC said: Depends on criteria. Im saying he’s dominated the A in terms of his own personal capabilities, not that he’s the MVP of the league or something. As a very young player, I’d say his stats show he’s heavily succeeded as an offensively deployed Dman in the A. He’s had a blip recently since being demoted from the big club, but he’s proven he can run the offense from the back end. That’s dominant for a player in their 20s, imho. He had a solid year, no doubt. I watched almost every game from Dec and he improved steadily and was an important driver of offense, for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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