DeNiro Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 We could possibly do both if we reacquired Ohlund with Namestnikov or Connolly and having Ohlund on LTIR all year until his rehab fails and he decides to retire next summer actually opens up almost $9m in cap space ($5.33m + $3.607m) for this coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 It's hard to find a player like yakupov again,, I heard on one of the sports networks recently that teams that traded down from the 1st overall pick alwamost always got the worst of the trade no matter the package If I was making the decision I'd keep the 1st pick and pick a future superstar rather than getting two above average players I'll try to look up the history of teams that traded their 1st overall when I have some time later on and post it,, unless someone has the time before me and looks it up Edit while yakupov is the consensus number one I think Grego will be as good if not better in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 And then Kevin Lowe is reminded that he is not the GM anymore and that Tamby has worked with Burke and Dave Nonis and very possibly has a very good relationship with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Or just trade Luongo for the 1st pick and a package. Luongo himself is worth more then the 1st pick a lone. I really hope you were just joking with the Luongo for the 5th pick, because we be robbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Yea but we would only be able to spend the salary that Ohlund would be taking up. It's really not adding anything. I really can't see Gillis trading for Ohlund. What if he decides he can come back and play? I would take Forsberg over Connely, he sounds like a dynamic player that will be exciting to watch. Connely is good, but I think Forsberg will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Laffs are in pretty much every trade rumour at the moment. That's because it's playoff time. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 http://www.montrealg...l#ixzz1uY25LGE7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marleau_12 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Sort of funny that everyone rags on Schenn , writing his career off, but are so quick to defend Gragnani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Schenn has the potential to be a top 4 shutdown defenseman and I believe he will get there. We can definitely use a big physical shutdown D. If Hamhuis can make Bieksa look like he can actually defend, he can do the same for the development of Schenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 That would be robbery sorry... I could see it now 7 years down the road. Oilers regret falling off track when they traded the best player out of their 3 first overall pick's to toronto for worst players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Or just trade Luongo for the 1st pick and a package. Luongo himself is worth more then the 1st pick a lone. I really hope you were just joking with the Luongo for the 5th pick, because we be robbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd84 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 You guys are all idiots ragging on Schenn. He is only 22 years old, is 6'2", 230lbs, had MORE hits than ANYONE on Vancouver, blocks alot of shots, decent points playing on a crappy team at a young age. Plus, he hasn't had a major injury yet. At 22 years old, cut him some slack. I would actually really like him in our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Laffs are in pretty much every trade rumour at the moment. That's because it's playoff time. Cheers. TOML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 haha /nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoewsables Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Oh come on now! Just admit it guys, yes, he's a Leaf, but he is actually a very good young defencemen. Ask yourself this, who isn't bad on Toronto? TO is just crushing every one of it's prospects, it's the sad truth. That's why they haven't made the playoffs in what? 7 years? Kadri was supposed to be amazing, and he has done absolute squat there, they didn't even give him a full season yet! Kadri has a lot of skill and potential as well, and like Schenn, if put on another good team like Vancouver, Detroit or Chicago, they will develop fully and be studs one fine day. Schenn in Vancouver>>>> Schenn in TO. Take it from me, if Schenn comes here, you guys will love this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Obviously trading down from 1st to 5th is going to have a big dropoff. But if Edmonton wanted to trade down to the 2nd spot, I think there's alot of cases where the 2nd overall player is actually the better player. I would say in this draft it could like dropping from Ovechkin (Yakupov), to Malkin (Grigerenko). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Schneider35 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Its funny how people rag on Schenn when he's only 22, and when people rag on Kassian, those same people say, "Give him a break! He's only 21!". It's really weird. Schenn has so much potential, he has more hits, like the poster above said, than any Canuck defencmen. If we had Schenn, people wouldn't bash him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 No, he's not. Not even remotely close. If Burke offers us the 5th overall pick, Gillis takes it and runs. A guy like Forsberg, Galchenyuk, or Dumba would be HUGE for this franchise. But I'm not sure Burke wants ANOTHER Phil "the thrill" Kessel situation on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 First of all, I highly doubt Ohlund will be able to return to NHL action as he underwent double knee surgery last year and he wasn't able to appear in a single game all season. Now he's undergoing an even more radical procedure. Imo, he'll try the rehab and ultimately come to the realization that he ought to preserve quality of life after hockey over playing a season or two more. $3.607m of guaranteed LTIR cap space is $3.607m of cap space we could seriously use with Ballard & Booth both overpaid by $1m-$1.5m each. Throw in Luongo's $5.33m, Raymond's $2.55m, Salo's $2m, the $5m rise in the cap ceiling and you have $18.49m for Schneider ($3.6m max), a top-six forward, a top-4 defenceman and a backup goaltender. On the topic of top-six forwards, how wise would it have been to acquire Vermette when I suggested it prior to the deadline? Perfect temporary fill in for Kesler as a top-six centre next fall, not to mention 2nd unit PP duties or left side Dzone faceoff duties, and an ideal 3rd line centre for a team wanting to play an uptempo style after Kesler comes back. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Oh come on now! Just admit it guys, yes, he's a Leaf, but he is actually a very good young defencemen. Ask yourself this, who isn't bad on Toronto? TO is just crushing every one of it's prospects, it's the sad truth. That's why they haven't made the playoffs in what? 7 years? Kadri was supposed to be amazing, and he has done absolute squat there, they didn't even give him a full season yet! Kadri has a lot of skill and potential as well, and like Schenn, if put on another good team like Vancouver, Detroit or Chicago, they will develop fully and be studs one fine day. Schenn in Vancouver>>>> Schenn in TO. Take it from me, if Schenn comes here, you guys will love this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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