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#1 NHLYoungGuns

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:11 PM

In your opinion, who do you believe would be the perfect fit for the Canucks as a third line centre? I like Schroeder, but I don't think we can get far in the playoffs if we don't have some size in the middle. We need someone who can play offense and defense, not just a defensive centre. We do not need another Pahlsson on this team. I don't believe Lapierre can produce offensively as a 3rd line centre. We need a player who can bring energy, grit and offense. Following this further, which names do you think will suit the Canucks as a 3rd line centre? (Linemates would most likely be Hansen and Raymond, they have developed chemistry)

Kesler should be moved to the right wing on the second line. Obviously if the Canucks were to pick up a second line centre, it would be a playmaker. Having third line players on our second line isn't going to win us a cup. With Kelser injured for the time being, a playmaking centre could definitely help the Canucks. Which names do you think would fit the Canucks as a second line centre?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:14 PM

Think were more concerned aquiring a number 2 center, we have enough third liners on this team.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

I think Zack Smith from Ottawa would be a sweet pickup
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:16 PM

I don't know if there's many options for 3rd line center unless they drop Kesler to the 3rd and bring in a 2nd C instead (which I think would be better suited for Kesler and open up line matching combos and offensive depth)....

Here's some d-day players the canucks will look into:

- Peter Mueller
- Jared Smithson
- Paul Statsny
- Antoine Vermette
- Chad Larose
- Simon Depres
- Joey MacDonald/Erik Karlsson/Brian Boucher (whoever is avaliable on waivers IF a goaltender is traded)
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:21 PM

Ideally, I'd like to see them trade a goalie for a young centre but that prob won't happen till the summer.

Wondering if Fla will part with Goc? Great cap hit, 1 yr left on deal after this season. He plays a shutdown role in Fla. It's been reported Fla is having severe $$ issues, maybe Canucks could take Santorelli or other $$ and get a good deal for Goc?
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:23 PM

Bozak or Vermette, although niether would be available IMO.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:27 PM

Someone that is good at winning faceoffs.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:31 PM

Someone that is good at winning faceoffs.


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:31 PM

Honestly it's sometimes the last player that people would expect, that ends up having a big impact on the team.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:31 PM

anybody concerned that Phoenix has more goals scored than us and has a better GD? Before you guys were talking about how garbage they were and couldn't pass the neutral zone.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:37 PM

anybody concerned that Phoenix has more goals scored than us and has a better GD? Before you guys were talking about how garbage they were and couldn't pass the neutral zone.


That can change in a matter of one game, so no. We're still 5th in goals in the West despite having no second line center.

Only 2 goals separate us in GD too. Phoenix is a well balanced team, give them credit.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

With O'Reilly signed, Colorado has 3 top 6 centres. If Stasny is available, the Canucks should really look at acquiring him (if he is actually available)

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Kesler-Stastny-Jensen/Booth/Kassian
Higgins-Raymond-Hansen

That's more than enough offense to steal games for us.......

We just need to work on our PP and shoot the damn puck
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:41 PM

Vermette if Phoenix drops out. If not here are some other options

- Zack Smith (he'd fit perfectly IMO)
- Marcel Goc
- Frans Nielsen
- Daniel Alfredsson (if Ottawa drops out)
- Tyler Myers
- Ryane Clowe

IMO I think Gillis will make a Higgins/Lapierre type of unexpected move.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:41 PM

That can change in a matter of one game, so no. We're still 5th in goals in the West despite having no second line center.

Only 2 goals separate us in GD too. Phoenix is a well balanced team, give them credit.


If I was Aquaman, I'd be pissed at spending the amount we do when Phoenix gets the same results...
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:46 PM

If I was Aquaman, I'd be pissed at spending the amount we do when Phoenix gets the same results...


Why? They have a good system, good coaching, and great goaltending. Any team that has that can find success no matter how much they spend. Drafting studs like OEL and Boedker help too.

Chicago spends almost just as much, and they were knocked out of the playoffs by Phoenix. They've found a way to win with what they've got. Give them props.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:55 PM

Why? They have a good system, good coaching, and great goaltending. Any team that has that can find success no matter how much they spend. Drafting studs like OEL and Boedker help too.

Chicago spends almost just as much, and they were knocked out of the playoffs by Phoenix. They've found a way to win with what they've got. Give them props.



If it's your money, say you go to a dealership and by a car for 100k. A colleague comes in the next day with the same car and says he bought it for 50k. Wouldnt you be pissed?

I understand hockey has a lot more variables and uncertainty but the main point is, Phoenix got much better value compared to Vancouver. I dont think there's much debate to that.

And if I was the guy signing the checks, I would care about how much value I'm getting for those checks.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:20 PM

Remember when Stastny was supposed to be the next Sakic?
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:21 PM

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If it's your money, say you go to a dealership and by a car for 100k. A colleague comes in the next day with the same car and says he bought it for 50k. Wouldnt you be pissed?

I understand hockey has a lot more variables and uncertainty but the main point is, Phoenix got much better value compared to Vancouver. I dont think there's much debate to that.

And if I was the guy signing the checks, I would care about how much value I'm getting for those checks.


Dude, you're looking at the top line (i.e., expenditures)...Aquillini's are more worried about the bottom line (i.e., profit). Last time I checked, the Canucks are making money, and the Coyotes are bleeding money. You think the Aquillini's are upset about having to spend 38% more on player pay roll to make substantial bottom line earnings? Oh, and let's not forget about the equity value in the Canucks vs. the Coyotes, as a result of spending the extra cash on signing players...

Before you start debating what the Aquillini's might be unhappy about, you should probably get a better understanding of the basic economics of ownership and its associated liabilities/assets/returns...otherwise, you just sound really stupid.

Back to OP...Vermette, Bozak or Brassard would be good pick ups to play a second line role...move Kes to third line Selke role.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:22 PM

Vermette if Phoenix drops out. If not here are some other options

- Zack Smith (he'd fit perfectly IMO)
- Marcel Goc
- Frans Nielsen
- Daniel Alfredsson (if Ottawa drops out)
- Tyler Myers
- Ryane Clowe

IMO I think Gillis will make a Higgins/Lapierre type of unexpected move.


Tyler Myers? Isn't he a defenseman?
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:26 PM

Ummmm, errrrrr, ahhhhh....Cody Hodgson.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:27 PM

Tyler Myers? Isn't he a defenseman?

Other options like not just forward/3C
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:46 PM

Dude, you're looking at the top line (i.e., expenditures)...Aquillini's are more worried about the bottom line (i.e., profit). Last time I checked, the Canucks are making money, and the Coyotes are bleeding money. You think the Aquillini's are upset about having to spend 38% more on player pay roll to make substantial bottom line earnings? Oh, and let's not forget about the equity value in the Canucks vs. the Coyotes, as a result of spending the extra cash on signing players...

Before you start debating what the Aquillini's might be unhappy about, you should probably get a better understanding of the basic economics of ownership and its associated liabilities/assets/returns...otherwise, you just sound really stupid.

Back to OP...Vermette, Bozak or Brassard would be good pick ups to play a second line role...move Kes to third line Selke role.


Yep, pretty much.

I'm sure the Acquilini's are quite alright with the bucket loads of money they are making.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:04 PM

What would it take to snag Statsny without losing any key roster players?

Two 2nd's + a prospect?


Or I like the idea of adding Vermette ; even a guy like Frans Nielsen .

Vermette : 22 GP 6 G 6 A 12 Points
Statsny : 21 GP 6 G 7 A 13 Points
Nielsen : 23 GP 2 G 9 A 11 Points
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:08 PM

Just focusing on rumoured potential trade partners....

Sean Couturier is the obvious answer - young ELC who can handle d zone starts at a very young age and has outstanding two way upside. Worth paying for imo.

Most realistically - I'd like Goc - a very solid two way 3C at a reasonable cap hit. Drew Shore would also be a nice acquisition if dealing with Florida.

NYI - I like Cizikas as a young depth C - and Brock Nelson would be a real nice near NHL-ready prospect to land.

Some folks have mentioned Zach Smith - would pay the price to land him packaged with Neil. I'd like to see us add both a 3C and a 4C - Brian Boyle would be worth paying for imo - Steckel could probably be had for a reasonable price and would be a good replacement for Manny's role...
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:09 PM

David Steckel
Derick Brassard
Tyler Bozak
Marcus Johansson
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:20 PM

Ummmm, errrrrr, ahhhhh....Cody Hodgson.


Ironically, being a 3C (as a rookie) wasn't good enough for the Hodgson camp - so, yeah, a lousy option.
Not to mention that his agent thinks he's in a class with Steven Stamkos, so, uh, when his ELC runs out in a few months, Regehr better be prepared for a trying negotiation. Don't expect him to sign for mere 3C money.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:27 PM

Wouldn't be surprised to see a trade for someone like Nate Thompson:

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To Van
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:31 PM

David Steckel
Derick Brassard
Tyler Bozak
Marcus Johansson


Everyone else you listed is on a whole nother level than Steckel.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:40 PM

Derrick Brassard
Frans Nielsen
Josh Bailey
Tyler Bozak
Marcel Goc
Mark Letestu
Drew Shore
Marcus Johansson
Zack Smith
Vladimir Sobotka
Nate Thompson
Nick Antropov

There are alot of guys out there, some I am more keen on than others, the question is, which are avaliable and what would the asking prices be.
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