BedBeats™2.0 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 The past 3-5 years have given us comedy gold with misinformed opinions about Alain Vigneault and his coaching style/techniques. So as a preemptive strike...i present to you a pretty good 3 part video (in different stages of the 48 game season) about John Tortorella and coaching, his methods, philosophies, opinions, commentaries about the game and various players on the NYR. In part 2 and 3, you will see, and yes, wait for it...Mike Keenan join in on the interviews. Lots to discuss. I certainly enjoyed the peek inside his coaching head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canouver Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 It seems he hates talking just after a game. Maybe the press conferences should be held the following day to let him cool down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 It seems he hates talking just after a game. Maybe the press conferences should be held the following day to let him cool down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 It seems he hates talking just after a game. Maybe the press conferences should be held the following day to let him cool down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 It's his relationship with the press, past that he gets respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 What I take from those interviews is that Hansen will be playing 17-20 minutes a game. Kesler and Burrows will play 25+ minutes. He likes hard workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 What I take from those intervies is that Hansen will be playing 17-20 minutes a game. Kesler and Burrows will play 25+ minutes. He likes hard workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 What I take from those interviews is that Hansen will be playing 17-20 minutes a game. Kesler and Burrows will play 25+ minutes. He likes hard workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 1min 20 secs in "go through maybe a process" NO WONDER he got hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 At least he will have the guts to plant Edler on the bench after his 3rd or 4th blunder on any given night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 He seems like a really detail oriented coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tortorella Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 People should stop worrying. I've won a cup you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 It is not his coaching skills that are his undoing. The man is a freaking slime ball wrapped up in an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stexx Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 It is not his coaching skills that are his undoing. The man is a freaking slime ball wrapped up in an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Thanks BedBeats for the links. I just had time to watch the first one. My dislike for Tortorella, as coach, is unchanged, though consolidated. He gave a mini-video analysis on neutral zone defense that criticized Gaborik. But coaches have to flexible. And despite Tortorella's constant defense of himself as a "flexible" guy who "listens" to his players, it's up to the coach to adjust his approach, at least somewhat, to the specific talents of his players. As a good comparable, Vigneault let the Sedins do pretty much what they wanted offensively. A more flexible coach, in that particular instance, would have noted Gaborik's much greater asset as an offensive forward, by pairing him with an opposite side winger who could cover for those neutral zone plays. In that speciafic case, it means that the greater responsibility would have been on that other forward to pre-emptively backcheck so that it would have been a common 2 on 2 rather than the much better scoring chance it turned out to be. Second point -- again, despite Tortorella's self-praise, it took several games -- every game vitally important in the lockout-shortened season, according to Tortorella himself -- to listen to the players tell him that the practises were wearing them out during the games themselves. A truly observant, flexible coach would have sensed that long before the poor efforts on the ice had piled up. P.S. The great defensive coach, Jacques Lemaire, sure didn't have trouble incorporating Gaborik into his defense-first system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Thanks BedBeats for the links. I just had time to watch the first one. My dislike for Tortorella, as coach, is unchanged, though consolidated. He gave a mini-video analysis on neutral zone defense that criticized Gaborik. But coaches have to flexible. And despite Tortorella's constant defense of himself as a "flexible" guy who "listens" to his players, it's up to the coach to adjust his approach, at least somewhat, to the specific talents of his players. As a good comparable, Vigneault let the Sedins do pretty much what they wanted offensively. A more flexible coach, in that particular instance, would have noted Gaborik's much greater asset as an offensive forward, by pairing him with an opposite side winger who could cover for those neutral zone plays. In that speciafic case, it means that the greater responsibility would have been on that other forward to pre-emptively backcheck so that it would have been a common 2 on 2 rather than the much better scoring chance it turned out to be. Second point -- again, despite Tortorella's self-praise, it took several games -- every game vitally important in the lockout-shortened season, according to Tortorella himself -- to listen to the players tell him that the practises were wearing them out during the games themselves. A truly observant, flexible coach would have sensed that long before the poor efforts on the ice had piled up. P.S. The great defensive coach, Jacques Lemaire, sure didn't have trouble incorporating Gaborik into his defense-first system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry_Wilkins Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 And where did that get the Wild? One post season birth in 10 years. Albeit it was a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmpunk Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 You don't know the playoff record of Jacques Lemaire? He wrote the book on defense first hockey, and single-handedly changed the way the game is played, even today. It all started with the '95 Devils. His Stanley Cup win with that talent-challenged team opened everybody's eyes. His top-scoring forward that year was a non-entity. (Hint: he's the Jack Adams award winner this year.) Beyond that, my point should have been obvious. If a defense-first coach like Lemaire, a guy who preached D, D, D to what some would consider a fault, could let the reins out, when appropriate, for Gaborik, why couldn't the "flexible" Tortorella? I'll answer that. Because Tortorella is an unsophisticated coach who preaches ironclad systems no matter who the players are, and who can't even tell when players are exhausted (which the first video makes plain), so uni-focused is he on having the players "work hard". Working hard is a given. Working smarter is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanIsleNuckFan Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 It is not his coaching skills that are his undoing. The man is a freaking slime ball wrapped up in an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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