TheCammer Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 by now canuck fans honestly stop keeping hope in Gm gillis this guy wont do anything look at the joker moves he made so far lol unknown names even the 4th line guys could of got a solid guy like boyd gordon but did he? nope i have lost hope in gillis you guys are dreaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 How am I contradicting myself, Gordon is not a top 6 player. Gordon is a 3rd line center, not worth 3 mil a season. Which is why we didn't get him, I want a top 6 forward for around the same price- perhaps a little more expensive, up to 4 mil. We could of afforded Gordon at 3 mil, we have 5,697,222 in cap space. (According to capgeek.com) Probably less now that buddy signed Santorelli, then we re-sign Tanev for a little over a mil and that should leave us with around 3.5 mil. If we didn't sign Santorelli we probably could have got a top six forward like Dustin Penner, Brad Boyes, someone who will actually do something on the ice. We still can, but instead Gillis will waste our time signing all these crappy depth players that will do absolutely nothing for us but allow the other team to score goals on us. EDIT: And while we're on the subject, Steckel is one of those "crappy" depth players, but at least he's better than Santorelli. He can win some faceoffs for us and kill some penalties, MG is ruining this team. I used to defend him, but I'm sick of this damn guy.. If he does nothing again (Which is what he seems to be good at) I'll be one of those annoying a** Fire MG guys, I hate those guys... But I completely understand now. We need a new GM, bottom line buds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Mike Gillis has been fairly quiet on the trade and signing front in comparison to other GM's around the league. While it is the best strategy not to overpay for players, such as Clarkson (grossly overrated), I believe that the Canucks should look at signing Ryan O' Byrne. He is the defenseman this team needs at this juncture. He is huge, shoots right, and is a monster of a shutdown defenseman. His lack of consistency is no worse than Edlers. And yes, Edler has a huge amount of offensive potential. But O' Byrne is willing to lay out the likes of Chara His cap hit is around $2 M, but could be negotiated based on a couple of lackluster seasons. As much as I like Tanev's passing ability, he has very little physical presence. And that is what this defense needs to go deep into the playoffs. Punishing players that enter our zone. I hope that Gillis looks long and hard at O' Byrne. The Canucks need to play a much more gritty defensive style. Adding someone with his size, fearlessness, and grit would be perfect when playing teams like Boston, St. Louis, and LA. Thoughts? Lipschitz out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Sure, we have some cap space, but remind me again how many players we have signed and still need to sign to ice a full roster? Nevermind, I'll do it for you so we don't have to do this dance again when my point passes through the air above your head.$5.147M in cap space (latest on CapGeek)11 forwards signed, need 2 more6 defence signed, need 2 more (one of which is Tanev)2 goalies signed, we're fine there. So we have $5.15M in cap space to sign 4 more players. If one of those players was Gordon, we'd have $2.15M left to sign 3 players. Or, if one of them was a top 6 forward (who, by the way seem to be going for closer to or above $5M so far) then we'd have $1.15M-150K left to sign 3 players. Remember, Tanev is one of those players still needing to be signed, and he'll get more than just over a million, my guess is around $1.5M, so that'd leave us with either $650K in cap space by the first example or over the cap by $350K-1.15M by the second and still needing to sign 2 more players to ice a 23 man roster. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lipschitz Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 O' Byrne would be just what this team needs going forward. I haven't heard his name being thrown around lately, so hopefully Gillis looks at him and sees his ability to:deter players crashing Luongo's creasehit like a freight trainscore a goal once in a while Although there always is July 25th when a similar sized defenseman from BC becomes available for a trade, at a much, much higher price. A fan can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Brings exactly what this tam needs more of, and grew up cheering for the Canucks. The team still needs at least on more depth guy, preferably 2, because last year was an aberration with our D staying mostly healthy. We're actually going to be short on LEFT handed shots pretty quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Brings exactly what this tam needs more of, and grew up cheering for the Canucks. The team still needs at least on more depth guy, preferably 2, because last year was an aberration with our D staying mostly healthy. We're actually going to be short on LEFT handed shots pretty quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Not a bad problem to have. Them righties are highly coveted. Won't be hard to get a good return should we move one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I"m giving gillis the next season because the real cancer was AV. No more excuses for MG, but he still has rope and you are no GM. May I point out no one knows what goes on behind closed doors. Maybe Gillis has kept his job because some one else told him what to do. An owner who is involved does things like that. But that's just specualtion, for I truly don't know. Nor do you:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA96 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I like the idea of having o'byrne we still have some cap space if we signed him for around 2m so id like to see him come here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I'd like signing him, no complaints would come from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 This crossed my mind before free agency started. I would love to have a hulking 5-6 dman on the team opposed to 2 smaller guys who just make "smart plays". From my POV, either Corrado or Tanev have to go. Maybe packaged with Booth when he is healthy, for a better top 6 forward. At least Corrado hits guys and has room to get alot better! So will Tanev, but he's a kitten. If we wanna see a stiffer team this season and if JT wants to see a stiffer team this season, then Tanev will absolutely drive him crazy if he continues to not throw hits!!! And by smaller guys, I mean guys that haven't filled out. Also take note of the signings. Yannik Weber and Mike Santorelli, less than the waiver cap, so they can be sent to the minors with the team holding none of their cap when they are gone. Say...if a certain prospect or two make the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Swansons Moustache Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 This crossed my mind before free agency started. I would love to have a hulking 5-6 dman on the team opposed to 2 smaller guys who just make "smart plays". From my POV, either Corrado or Tanev have to go. Maybe packaged with Booth when he is healthy, for a better top 6 forward. At least Corrado hits guys and has room to get alot better! So will Tanev, but he's a kitten. If we wanna see a stiffer team this season and if JT wants to see a stiffer team this season, then Tanev will absolutely drive him crazy if he continues to not throw hits!!! And by smaller guys, I mean guys that haven't filled out. Also take note of the signings. Yannik Weber and Mike Santorelli, less than the waiver cap, so they can be sent to the minors with the team holding none of their cap when they are gone. Say...if a certain prospect or two make the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I agree with your pov as well. Its something we're lacking with Alberts if he leaves, i still hope he re-signs. Our d looks pretty soft and going into a bigger, tougher division i think we need that type on the back end. I'd like to see a tough LD and RD signed for under a million or just over. For LD Alberts, Fristric or even Murray and RD O'Bryne (i cant think of any others at the moment). They may have their faults with not producing offense or slower foot speed but for a 5th, 6th or 7th and cheap i'd take a chance. It's something the core is lacking and who knows what Torts and Sullivan can do or get out of them. I'd also like to see Corrado play on the Comets and get first pair mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Swansons Moustache Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I didn't think it was possible but we're a softer team than last season, we defiantly need one of those big defensemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruger Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Wouldn't mind him at all. Definitely need a big and physical defenceman in the lineup. I'd be happy with O'Byrne, Murray, or resigning Alberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Hard Truth Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Would like to add a Fistric , Obyrne and Arron asham or better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Oops. Wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Mike Gillis has been fairly quiet on the trade and signing front in comparison to other GM's around the league. While it is the best strategy not to overpay for players, such as Clarkson (grossly overrated), I believe that the Canucks should look at signing Ryan O' Byrne. He is the defenseman this team needs at this juncture. He is huge, shoots right, and is a monster of a shutdown defenseman. His lack of consistency is no worse than Edlers. And yes, Edler has a huge amount of offensive potential. But O' Byrne is willing to lay out the likes of Chara His cap hit is around $2 M, but could be negotiated based on a couple of lackluster seasons. As much as I like Tanev's passing ability, he has very little physical presence. And that is what this defense needs to go deep into the playoffs. Punishing players that enter our zone. I hope that Gillis looks long and hard at O' Byrne. The Canucks need to play a much more gritty defensive style. Adding someone with his size, fearlessness, and grit would be perfect when playing teams like Boston, St. Louis, and LA. Thoughts? Lipschitz out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Blum or O'Byrne would be just fine. Do we have the cap room though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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