CanucksJay Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 http://hfboards.hock...d.php?t=1558197 As a known anti AV guy, I found this thread pretty amusing to read. So AV pretty much diplomatically called out Sather in his post game saying that he cannot coach the puck possession strategy he wants to coach with the way the team is built. 1) Yes I know... Sather is a bad GM 2) AV is an idiot for either a) Accepting a job in NY fully knowing the roster he has to work with or Trying to coach a puck possession style game with a team full of grinders and not being able to adapt. Witnessing his inability to adapt in Van, my guess is, one of 2 things will happen 1) Sather gets fired or 2) Sather tries to make a move to accommodate AV but when that ultimately fails, he fires AV. I think option 1 will occur as Sather has had enough chances and the fans are calling for his head. Also it looks bad to fire a coach that they JUST hired. Interesting enough, Torts coached a high powered offence first Tampa Bay team to the cup and then completely changed his style to take the Rags to the ECF as a defensive team. Seems like Torts knows how to play to the strengths of his players while AV is pretty one dimensional. And its funny that AV is complaining about the roster as during his first year in Van, he took a team full of grinders to 2nd round. I would have imagined that he would do something similar with the Rags but it is perplexing that instead of adjusting, he is complaining. Personally speaking, I think AV should shut his trap and coach to the teams strengths. If the team is only capable of winning by collapsing in front of their net and blocking shots, maybe it's the coach that needs to adjust. AV full well knew what the roster was when he signed his contract. He shouldn't be throwing his boss under the bus. Here's a bonus..This read is pretty funny too... http://hfboards.hock...1521947&page=22 looks like the Rags aren't showing much effort since Torts left... AND the hits just keep on coming Here's a tweet from Tort's daughter http://snyrangersblo...uickly-deleted/ Taj @taj1944Follow #shotsfired RT @BrittanyKellen: NYR and MSG ... You got want you want right? Hopefully you find some identity. 8:46 PM - 10 Dec 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Hey AV, the Sedins are pretty good puck possession players eh? Yeah, not just anyone can do that... The twins are better than anyone on that team, except for maybe Lundqvist. But you cant really compare him to a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Interesting. What I don't understand is why AV is doing this now when he knew what he had on the roster going into this gig. Not sure why he thinks calling out the GM is a good idea. Seems to me if he has an issue that he would deal with Slats behind closed doors. Maybe he should've taken the Dallas job instead. Would have given him a good young core who could learn to play his system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He's making excuses. They have skilled forwards. Hagelin, Stepan, Nash and Brassard come to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 This is karma for calling a timeout when they were leading 5-0 late in the 3rd. Since then, we have won 5 games and the Rags cant buy a win and have fallen into mediocrity. Too bad the the east being so damn bad that even with their abysmal record, they are only two points out of a playoff spot. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangler696969 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 uh oh AV gonna get canned for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick Hands Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 They aren't being utilized properly and they don't have an identity anymore.. sounds familiar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He's making excuses. They have skilled forwards. Hagelin, Stepan, Nash and Brassard come to mind Yea but after that, you have a bunch of third/fourth line grinders in Pyatt, Boyle, Callahan, Dorsett, and so on. Their forwards are mostly grinders and they were well suited for the grind game where it was just dump and chase. They have no skilled forwards that can handle the puck other than the ones you mentioned and Brad Richards that can carry the puck into the zone and keep possession of it. It's not working because the team isn't built to be a puck possession team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Sather(no, not a fan) should acquire Ballard, Grabner & Sergei Shirokov just for AVee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I don't get it. Is the post-game presser mentioned in the HF thread this one - http://prohockeytalk...t-another-loss/ ? I didn't hear him say anything about the personnel he's been given. In context, he talks about their record after giving up the first goal, and how that affects his system. He does call one of his own players out. Not sure who he's talking about - a veteran forward who made a bad pinching decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Sather get fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 AV can thank the twins and Luongo for everything he achieved in Vancouver. That Jack Adams pretty much solely belongs to Luongo for the unbelievable season he had that year. That was a horrible team with no right to make the playoffs, and it's not like the coaching was fantastic - Luongo had to make about 5 highlight reel stops a night when our systems broke down time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllEyezOnMe Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 AV can thank the twins and Luongo for everything he achieved in Vancouver. That Jack Adams pretty much solely belongs to Luongo for the unbelievable season he had that year. That was a horrible team with no right to make the playoffs, and it's not like the coaching was fantastic - Luongo had to make about 5 highlight reel stops a night when our systems broke down time and time again. And now Luongo just lets in the first shot every game, his nickname should be ONE SHOT ONE GOAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckBoss Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 And now Luongo just lets in the first shot every game, his nickname should be ONE SHOT ONE GOAL. consistent give aways consistent 2 on 1's breakaways brain farts failed block shots screening of Loui's vision mirage of unfortunate goals some how findin its way in the net(i have no idea how) consistent pressure of your team not scoring jack sh*t Our Defense scoring in your own net we still win games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 And now Luongo just lets in the first shot every game, his nickname should be ONE SHOT ONE GOAL. Luongo hasn't allowed a goal on the first shot in the last 7 games and it's nowhere near every game. But, sure, take an AV thread off topic to bash Luongo with greatly exaggerated and incorrect information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I think this goal literally saved AV from being fired back in 09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00bxQb Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I think this goal literally saved AV from being fired back in 09. That January was brutal. Luongo injured, Sundin nowhere near game shape, a bazillion losses in a row at home ... I think the only thing that saved AV was the extenuating circumstances during the losing skid and Sundin being a real difference maker later in the season once his conditioning allowed him to actually compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 consistent give aways consistent 2 on 1's breakaways brain farts failed block shots screening of Loui's vision mirage of unfortunate goals some how findin its way in the net(i have no idea how) consistent pressure of your team not scoring jack sh*t Our Defense scoring in your own net we still win games You should add constant excuses to that list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Watch Sather get nasty with Vignault and trade for Hodgson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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