MH370 - Presumed Lost in Indian Ocean, Possible Debris Spotting in Reunion

[Go Faulk Yourself]

If it was a terrorist attack, wouldn't someone claim responsibility? Isn't that the whole point? Usually there's a reason behind it too aside from the fact they enjoy killing people.

Curious why, if it truly was a terrorist attack, they'd attack a Malaysian aircraft? Apologies if the reason is evident, I'm just confused, as usually terrorist attacks have a motive behind it, but I can't seem to think of one behind this.

Way to be in my head.

[Down by the River]

the stolen passports, from 2 different countries are definitely a red flag. An on-board terrorist attack seems almost certain.

And if it is not a terrorist attack, I'd be really interested to know how often stolen passports are used to facilitate air travel.

[canucks_for_cup27]

Curious why, if it truly was a terrorist attack, they'd attack a Malaysian aircraft? Apologies if the reason is evident, I'm just confused, as usually terrorist attacks have a motive behind it, but I can't seem to think of one behind this.

http://en.wikipedia....the_Philippines

http://en.wikipedia....rorism_in_China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Indonesia

Terrorism isn't exclusively against western nations, that said I don't know what the intra-country hot topics of that region are

[Dr.Strangelove]

And if it is not a terrorist attack, I'd be really interested to know how often stolen passports are used to facilitate air travel.

More often than people think outside of the EU and NA it's apparently very easy to use a stolen passport to keep your identity hidden .

[Warhippy]

The issue with a bomb in flight or a missile strike is that the plane would have disintegrated mid flight and a very visible debris trail would be seen.

Experts are starting to question if this was a nose dive incident which would basically mean that debris won't start surfacing for a few days.

Either way RIP to those aboard and sympathies to the families involved

[CANUCKS FTW!]

It is likely a terrorist aimed at China. If you guys did not hear about the terrorist attack in Southern China last week, you should check it out. China has a large region of Muslims in the province near Kazakhstan, Afghanistan and Pakistan borders. They have connections with Al Qaeda and frequently commit terrorism in that part of China. They want to declare independence and ironically US supports them even though they are affiliated with Al Qaeda (lol right?). Those Muslims tried to hijack numerous times on Chinese airlines but were all foiled. Chinese airlines have tight security making it almost impossible to carry a bomb or hijack. My suspicion is that a foreign airline was targeted instead to get past that tight security. I don't think it is a coincidence that the majority of the passengers were Chinese.

[Buddhas Hand]

It is likely a terrorist aimed at China. If you guys did not hear about the terrorist attack in Southern China last week, you should check it out. China has a large region of Muslims in the province near Kazakhstan, Afghanistan and Pakistan borders. They have connections with Al Qaeda and frequently commit terrorism in that part of China. They want to declare independence and ironically US supports them even though they are affiliated with Al Qaeda (lol right?). Those Muslims tried to hijack numerous times on Chinese airlines but were all foiled. Chinese airlines have tight security making it almost impossible to carry a bomb or hijack. My suspicion is that a foreign airline was targeted instead to get past that tight security. I don't think it is a coincidence that the majority of the passengers were Chinese.

I was thinking the same thing , the people you are talking about are the Uighurs.

[Canucks_4_Cup]

Pretty interesting that the tickets purchased using the stolen passports were purchased at the same time and from the same agent:

E-ticket document: 784-2280116100 Passenger: MR. CHRISTIAN KOZEL Booking reference:

Issuing agent: 35306611

Issue place: PYX

Issue date: 06 March 2014 Trip status: Confirmed

E-ticket document: 784-2280116099 Passenger: MR. LUIGI MARALDI Booking reference:

Issuing agent: 35306611

Issue place: PYX

Issue date: 06 March 2014 Trip status: Confirmed

Supposed image of the ticket info:

http://img1.cache.netease.com/cnews/2014/3/9/20140309124209342ee_550.png

Could be anything from illegal immigrants to drug mules though..

[î мцšт вяздк чфµ]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1444179/new-possible-sighting-debris-sea-china-sends-warships-join-search-missing

The poster, whose profile information says he is a banker working for China Minsheng Bank in Beijing, wrote that he took the snaps from his window at a height of 11,000 metres, at about 6.45am on Sunday.

Photos showing possible debris floating on the sea uploaded to Chinese social media by a user. Photo: SCMP PicturesWhile it is not immediately clear what the suspected debris consisted of, the area where the passenger said he spotted it appears to be roughly consistent with where the missing plane lost contact with aviation authorities and where ships from Malaysia and Vietnam were already searching since Saturday afternoon.

Li Jiaxiang, administrator of the Civil Aviation Administration of China, said at a press briefing on Sunday morning that some debris had been spotted, but it was unclear whether it came from the plane.

Vietnamese authorities said they had seen nothing close to two large oil slicks they saw Saturday and said might be from the missing plane.

None of the reported possible sightings so far have been confirmed to be from the Boeing 777-200 in the seas between Malaysia and Vietnam where the plane vanished from screens early Saturday morning.

[drummer4now]

Pretty interesting that the tickets purchased using the stolen passports were purchased at the same time and from the same agent:

E-ticket document: 784-2280116100 Passenger: MR. CHRISTIAN KOZEL Booking reference:

Issuing agent: 35306611

Issue place: PYX

Issue date: 06 March 2014 Trip status: Confirmed

E-ticket document: 784-2280116099 Passenger: MR. LUIGI MARALDI Booking reference:

Issuing agent: 35306611

Issue place: PYX

Issue date: 06 March 2014 Trip status: Confirmed

Supposed image of the ticket info:

http://img1.cache.ne...09342ee_550.png

Could be anything from illegal immigrants to drug mules though..

Shouldn't this information be classified still lol?

[THERETOOL]

damn .. that photo gives me chills

[CB007]

The latest on this disaster:

http://mashable.com/2014/03/09/malaysia-mh370-still-missing/#:eyJzIjoidCIsImkiOiJfbGpsam1lczMydnk2OWQxYyJ9

A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 239 people from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing disappeared from radar systems on Friday — and authorities still have no clue where it's gone.

‘‘So far there’s no report of any sightings,’’ Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, director general of Malaysia’s Department of Civil Aviation, said at a Sunday morning news conference in Kuala Lumpur on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. The company says it is "fearing for the worst."

Thirty-four aircraft, 40 ships, and officials from no fewer than 8 countries are involved in the search.

That an international jet liner can apparently vanish while cruising at 35,000 feet, with no sign of a distress signal or trouble, has rattled the nerves and captured the attention of many. That is, after all, the safest portion of a flight.

SEE ALSO: Malaysia Airlines 'Loses Contact' When Plane Carrying 239 People Vanishes

Meanwhile, on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, people from around the world are sharing tributes in honor of the missing plane.

While we don't know much of the plane's whereabouts, or what happened to it after it broke contact with an air control tower about two hours after takeoff, some details are beginning to coalesce.

What Happened?

Officials leading the search so far have been unable to identify a field of debris — which is unusual for a plane that may have plunged into the sea. “The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet,” a source involved in the search told Reuters.

The chief of Malaysia’s air force said there were signs the aircraft may have attempted to turn back towards his country. "We are trying to make sense of this," Rodzali Daud said at a news conference. "The military radar indicated that the aircraft may have made a turn back, and in some parts this was corroborated by civilian radar."

But they didn’t tell air traffic control they were attempting such a maneuver, as is commonly required.

Late Sunday night, Vietnamese authorities said a military plane may have spotted an objectfloating it the water, identifying it as a possible piece of the tail or an inner door. That, plus the sighting of two large oil slicks off the coast of Vietnam, have led the authorities to direct their focus on a 50-nautical mile radius area.

Who Was On Board?

239 people were aboard the missing aircraft, including 12 crew members. Two of the passengers were infants. Two-thirds of the passengers aboard the flight to Beijing were Chinese. Three people on board were American: IBM employee Philip Wood, 51, and two children, Nicole Meng, 4, and Yan Zhang, 2.

‘‘He was a wonderful person and very intelligent,’ Wood’s mother Sondra Wood of Keller, Texas said of her son. ‘‘I could talk forever about him. He’s my son, and any mother would be proud of their son.’’

Among the passengers were a group of 24 painters and calligraphers, returning from a conference called the “Chinese Dream”, which celebrated diplomatic relations between China and Malaysia. Five ticketed passengers failed to board the flight before it left the gate, and their luggage was removed from the plane. And then there were the two passengers traveling using stolen passports.

Stolen Passports?

Two of the passengers on board had used stolen passports, raising the specter of terrorism as a cause of the missing jet. While not ruling anything out, Malaysia Airlines’ CEO says they have not identified this as an act of terrorism.

“While the stolen passports are interesting, they don’t necessarily say to us that this was a terrorism act,” Abdul Rahman, the director general, told reporters. “We have the CCTV recordings of those passengers from check-in bags to the departure point,” and that footage is being reviewed.

"Early indications show some sort of a security lapse, but I cannot say any further right now," an official told CBC. The two individuals flying under the stolen passports were both booked on a flight out of Beijing headed to Amsterdam.

One was then scheduled to continue to Copenhagen, and the other to Frankfurt. They booked the two tickets simultaneously, their numbers listed consecutively.

Leading Theories

There are a number of theories floated by authorities leading the search as of Sunday night Malaysian time, but none of them are backed by enough evidence for anyone to say for sure. Among them: an act of terrorism, catastrophic engine failure or mechanical failure. Authorities, however, remain focused on finding the missing jet before jumping to any conclusions.

The incident brings to mind two mid-air explosions in the 80’s, both aircraft were traveling at 31,000 feet: Air India Flight 182 and Pan Am Flight 103, which was bombed in the air over Lockerbie, Scotland. Another recent mid-air incident, Air France Flight 447, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean after departing Rio de Janeiro in June 2009, was the result of an aerodynamic stall.

[Toni Zamboni]

on ctv news this afternoon, they were reporting that a vietnam navy vessel had possibbly spotted a plane door and a tail of a plane.

is there any confirmations of debris yet?

[Denguin]

on ctv news this afternoon, they were reporting that a vietnam navy vessel had possibbly spotted a plane door and a tail of a plane.

is there any confirmations of debris yet?

As far as I know they spotted some debris from the air, but could only mark the positions since night was setting in. They'll investigate it tomorrow.

[Horny Manatee]

I'm guessing getting a bomb onto an airplane isn't that difficult to do. You just need to know one of the maintenance staff.

[TheRussianRocket.]

So, that report they found oil in the ocean is fake/false?

[Toni Zamboni]

finding the CVR and FDR will be paramount in trying to solve this mystery....if the plane went down in the gulf of thailand, the max depth in that area is around 160 feet(50 m)....so they should be able to recover them if they are still intact at all.

[THERETOOL]

now they are saying that the plane could have disintegrated ... this gets weirder and weirder ...

[etsen3]

If it was a terrorist attack, wouldn't someone claim responsibility? Isn't that the whole point? Usually there's a reason behind it too aside from the fact they enjoy killing people.

That is definitely strange. Perhaps whatever organization is responsible for this is waiting under the wreck is found? If they came out and claimed responsibility, it would kill the mystery and attention to this event. Perhaps they are playing mind games with the public.

I'm guessing getting a bomb onto an airplane isn't that difficult to do. You just need to know one of the maintenance staff.

Not that simple. No maintenance person is gonna allow hundreds to die just as a favour to a buddy, unless they were a terrorist themselves AND willing to face the consequences of their actions. Someone who was already a terrorist would have to infiltrate the airport by getting a job there, and first they would have to pass background checks. It's not like terroristic airplane mechanics are a dime a dozen.

I would hope that any person who was approached by someone who wanted to blow up a plane would immediately call the police.

[Tortorella's Rant]

That is definitely strange. Perhaps whatever organization is responsible for this is waiting under the wreck is found? If they came out and claimed responsibility, it would kill the mystery and attention to this event. Perhaps they are playing mind games with the public.

Not that simple. No maintenance person is gonna allow hundreds to die just as a favour to a buddy, unless they were a terrorist themselves AND willing to face the consequences of their actions. Someone who was already a terrorist would have to infiltrate the airport by getting a job there, and first they would have to pass background checks. It's not like terroristic airplane mechanics are a dime a dozen.

I would hope that any person who was approached by someone who wanted to blow up a plane would immediately call the police.

It was explained on CNN why a group might not claim responsibility. But I forget why that is.