JamesB Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hockey's Future just came out with its Spring 2015 Prospect Rankings. (This does not include players in the 2015 draft, and it does not include guys who have made the NHL as regulars, like Horvat. Baertschi also seems to have passed the threshold to be considered.) The top player is Sam Reinhart. Only one Canuck is in the top 50, That is Jake Virtanen at #31, way behind Ehlers (#3), Nylander (#11) and Ritchie (#19). It is disappointing to see Virtanen rated well below guys picked after him in the draft, but I can't disagree. Here is how the Canuck prospects are rated: 1. Virtanen 2. McCann 3. Demko 4. Cassels 5. Jensen 6. Shinkaruk 7. Clendening 8. Gaunce 9. Kenins 10. Corrado 11. Grenier 12. Tryamkin 13. Pedan 14. McEneny 15. Subban 16. Hutton 17. Eriksson 18. Petit 19. Cederholm There is a lot to disagree with on this list. But the interesting thing is that Cassels (a third round pick) has moved ahead of first round picks Jensen, Shinkaruk, and Gaunce. Clendening was a second round pick. According to their numbers Cassels has the same numerical score and letter grade as McCann, at 7.5 C, which translates roughly into "could be a second-liner or maybe a third liner but should become an NHL regular somewhere in the lineup". This is what you expect for a low first round pick. In other posts I have suggested that the data shows that as a 19-year old Cassels performed at about the level of low first round pick -- i.e. he performed like a guy picked in the bottom third of the first round in his draft year. However, Jensen, Shinkaruk and Gaunce are performing more like second rounders than low first rounders. Looking at the overall prospect pool, it has improved due to bringing in new players like Clendening, Baertschi and Pedan. And last year's draft was good, as was the 2013 draft (given that Horvat, Cassels and Subban were in it). But the progress of players in the system was not great. The only guy who really overachieved was Cassels. And Grenier finally made his way back onto the radar screen. And there are no likely potential first liners in the pool. Virtanen is rated as 8D which means "could be a first liner but probably won't." One strange thing is that McCann is ahead of Cassels in the overall list, but Cassels is ahead of McCann in the centers list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Looks like they finally started to do some research before making there list..... Not to bad for a HF list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 We've even got a coupla' under the radar types in Fox & Blomstrand. Also Markstrom still seems like a prospect(our pov), who may come through, or be used in trade. Hell with their top-50, the Comets have been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Agreed that the Virtanen ranking is fair but disappointing. I wanted Ehlers, but am trying not to think about that. The good news is Utica and how Green is improving our prospects' development. As for how the latter are ranked, my only real quibble is that Jensen is a bit too high, but otherwise it's fair enough. We're going to have a pretty solid team going forward: if we can just get lucky and squeeze a bit of star power out of that list and the upcoming draft, we should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckofSteel Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Shinkaruk should be ranked higher, he's going to be a top 6 winger for us in the future. Shink is going to be one of our best Snipers in the future, he'll become our version of Patrick Kane I feel. Horvat will be our version of Toews, I feel very positive about our future and think the Canucks are trending upwards with the prospects we have. Kassian, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Demko, Virtanen, Gaunce, Cassels, Subban, Tryamkin, Corrado, Kenins, and couple others will be important to this team going forward. I really don't have much hope for Jensen, I think he won't pan out. Baertschi I'm not sure about, but I think he'll become an offensive 3rd line player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 HF is utter trash and shouldnt be taken seriously imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 HF is utter trash and shouldnt be taken seriously imo Couldn't have put it better in any other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Shinkaruk should be ranked higher, he's going to be a top 6 winger for us in the future.Shink is going to be one of our best Snipers in the future, he'll become our version of Patrick Kane I feel. Horvat will be our version of Toews, I feel very positive about our future and think the Canucks are trending upwards with the prospects we have. Kassian, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Demko, Virtanen, Gaunce, Cassels, Subban, Tryamkin, Corrado, Kenins, and couple others will be important to this team going forward. I really don't have much hope for Jensen, I think he won't pan out. Baertschi I'm not sure about, but I think he'll become an offensive 3rd line player. You use the term "version" very loosely. Like if I said Bonino was our version of a 2nd line center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 This is still a prospects list, how they transition to the NHL is a different mater. Injuries and developement complicate things. HF boards are not the be all and end all of expertise on prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I think they have Jensen rather high. At this point, I think he should be sitting somewhere around 10th on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 They already have Demko as 7.5D and that annoys me. "Could be a starting goalie but wont." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat James Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Shink is going to be one of our best Snipers in the future, he'll become our version of Patrick Kane I feel. Horvat will be our version of Toews. That's a bit ambitious, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas19 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 HF is utter trash and shouldnt be taken seriously imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixthecat_potvin Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Why are Corrado and Clendening still considered "prospects" if they've already played in the NHL? Same with Kenins. I think we can move past that stage with those 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hockey's Future just came out with its Spring 2015 Prospect Rankings. (This does not include players in the 2015 draft, and it does not include guys who have made the NHL as regulars, like Horvat. Baertschi also seems to have passed the threshold to be considered.) The top player is Sam Reinhart. Which team has Reinhart?? I'm drawing a blank... All hail the mighty two year tank job!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Agreed that the Virtanen ranking is fair but disappointing. I wanted Ehlers, but am trying not to think about that. The good news is Utica and how Green is improving our prospects' development. As for how the latter are ranked, my only real quibble is that Jensen is a bit too high, but otherwise it's fair enough. We're going to have a pretty solid team going forward: if we can just get lucky and squeeze a bit of star power out of that list and the upcoming draft, we should be fine. His stock will be on the rise this year. It would have been a shame if he was picked lower because of a shoulder injury. I was, and still am, pretty stoked that the Canucks drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 They already have Demko as 7.5D and that annoys me. "Could be a starting goalie but wont." I agree, that's a crock. Nearly every team in the league would love to have Demko in their stable of prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 We suck man. Or the more reason to trade Lack for another 1st rounder if we can pull it off. But on the bright side Baertschi and Markstrom don't count on this list so as far as we are concerned they are new blood of high value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I thought HF didn't even have someone designated to evaluating Canucks prospects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I agree, that's a crock. Nearly every team in the league would love to have Demko in their stable of prospects. You think very very highly of Demko. Why? I mean, isn't Markstrom better and more proven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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