canuktravella Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 daniel A carrying team hendrik A same as brother vrbata Cplus has some of highest shots on net sooner or later his shooting percentage will go up hansen A plus honey badger is skating so fast actually having tons of chances plus plays in all situations. Sutter B done good could have been better but who knows how long injuries affected him horvat c plus bit of 2nd yr slump he will do better in rest of season especially when sutters back mccann b plus sniping it up sometimes makes rook mistakes but still better than i thought burrows cplus shows up clutch sometime still working hard higgins c minus bring no offense at all prust c plus heart of team protects rooks dorsett c minus hasnt done much cracknell c plus great 4th line c hard workeradds a lil offense virtanen c highest hits for rookies in nhl speeed helps him but coach is underutilizing him baertchi b corsi is great offense will come eventually edler bplus eats huge kins decent plus minus ok offense hutton a make vet moves plus adds offense exceeding how good i though hed be if only he had a decent partner tanev bplus great positionally eats big minutes hamhuis f minus no offense 3 assists making 4.5 mill loses puck cant skte or hit weber z minus no place in nhl hes soft as swiss cheese adds no offense no grit good bye sbisa b hits and really missed him when injured stablizes dcorp bartoski c mobile good passer and skater brings small bit of offense good 7th d miller a minus awful dcorp craps the bed but miller has kept us in close games lack of offense and bad d are to blame not miller markstrom b lil rusty back from injury but team has left him to the wolves on many occasions just like miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickjim23 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Sbisa, Bartkowski, Higgins and Edler should be lower. Otherwise, good ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickjim23 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 15 minutes ago, canuktravella said: daniel A carrying team hendrik A same as brother vrbata Cplus has some of highest shots on net sooner or later his shooting percentage will go up hansen A plus honey badger is skating so fast actually having tons of chances plus plays in all situations. Sutter B done good could have been better but who knows how long injuries affected him horvat c plus bit of 2nd yr slump he will do better in rest of season especially when sutters back mccann b plus sniping it up sometimes makes rook mistakes but still better than i thought burrows cplus shows up clutch sometime still working hard higgins c minus bring no offense at all prust c plus heart of team protects rooks dorsett c minus hasnt done much cracknell c plus great 4th line c hard workeradds a lil offense virtanen c highest hits for rookies in nhl speeed helps him but coach is underutilizing him baertchi b corsi is great offense will come eventually edler bplus eats huge kins decent plus minus ok offense hutton a make vet moves plus adds offense exceeding how good i though hed be if only he had a decent partner tanev bplus great positionally eats big minutes hamhuis f minus no offense 3 assists making 4.5 mill loses puck cant skte or hit weber z minus no place in nhl hes soft as swiss cheese adds no offense no grit good bye sbisa b hits and really missed him when injured stablizes dcorp bartoski c mobile good passer and skater brings small bit of offense good 7th d miller a minus awful dcorp craps the bed but miller has kept us in close games lack of offense and bad d are to blame not miller markstrom b lil rusty back from injury but team has left him to the wolves on many occasions just like miller You're being way too easy on Sbisa. He should be a C- or D. Miller should be a D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearditall Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 2 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Hutton and McCann have done better than expected. I agree but they also play sheltered minutes. McCann isn't the Canucks 3rd best forward though (not yet) and Hutton has some work to show us that he's as good as Tanev. Compared to all of the players in the league, I give McCann a C (which would make him a competent 3/4C which is saying something for a 19 year old) and Hutton gets a C+ (which is average for the league or equivalent to a typical 3/4D.....and very good for a 5D) Grading a teenager & a vet are totally different scenarios... Grading rookies compared to vets??? McCann for a teenager & expectations has done very well. "Very well" last I checked is better than a "C". Hutton has been arguably along with McCann the best rookie(s) in years. That alone is granted atleast above average mark (C). If your talking about comparing them to the way you're saying H.Sedin (#1 centre) vs McCann (#3-4) alone then yes Henrik, along with every other #1 centre wins hands down. (i thought report cards were based on individual play not vs team mates, age, experience, etc.)??? As a up & coming please play your rookies more year, than I'd easily have to say McCann & Hutton along with Jake have acceded expectations which gives them an above average mark period. We are rating them as individuals right???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 3 hours ago, slickjim23 said: You're being way too easy on Sbisa. He should be a C- or D. Miller should be a D ya sbisa has been decent not sure what your talking bout. As for miller hes keeping us in close games just because we lost a bunch on road trip is not his fault his dcorp was giving up multiple high grade scoring chances all game theres no goalie in league right now that would win with the chances canucks are giving up. Thats why pedan is playing next game we need a mean physical dman to bring the pain. Any team tha plays weber 20 mins a game is mostly likely to lose. Even with pedan we only have 3 dmen that im comfortable playing on team (edler, tanev, sbisa) and injured hutton. Benning better make a trade or two asap we should have kept corrado over weber makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tortorella Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 7 hours ago, hearditall said: He also had Virtanen before the draft at #46. A late 2nd rounder..?? He's a one of a kind type in a draft year. (Lucic, Bertuzzi, rare POWER forward type) I don't take to much of his opinion most of the times.... Tbh virt is not where draisadal is in skill at all. Sry for spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenman92 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I don't know, Miller is the seventh highest paid goalie in the NHL and his stats this year are pretty average, with his record being below average. Now a lot of that is the team in front of him, but at the same time, shouldn't "big money goalies" be able to overcome some of that? C- might be a tad harsh, but he's definitely no better than a C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 5 hours ago, hearditall said: Grading a teenager & a vet are totally different scenarios... Grading rookies compared to vets??? McCann for a teenager & expectations has done very well. "Very well" last I checked is better than a "C". Hutton has been arguably along with McCann the best rookie(s) in years. That alone is granted atleast above average mark (C). If your talking about comparing them to the way you're saying H.Sedin (#1 centre) vs McCann (#3-4) alone then yes Henrik, along with every other #1 centre wins hands down. (i thought report cards were based on individual play not vs team mates, age, experience, etc.)??? As a up & coming please play your rookies more year, than I'd easily have to say McCann & Hutton along with Jake have acceded expectations which gives them an above average mark period. We are rating them as individuals right???? Not in the school I went to Individual compared to a standard. There can only be one standard otherwise the grade is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 9 hours ago, slickjim23 said: You're being way too easy on Sbisa. He should be a C- or D. Miller should be a D No way Sbisa can be a D. The team seriously missed his toughness and grit on our D lines (while he was out). Edler has the physical tools to play tough, but he rarely does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 2 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Not in the school I went to Individual compared to a standard. There can only be one standard otherwise the grade is meaningless. I'm sure that the school you went to did not hold a grade 2 student to the same standard as a grade 12 student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 decades and no cup Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 3 hours ago, chickenman92 said: I don't know, Miller is the seventh highest paid goalie in the NHL and his stats this year are pretty average, with his record being below average. Now a lot of that is the team in front of him, but at the same time, shouldn't "big money goalies" be able to overcome some of that? C- might be a tad harsh, but he's definitely no better than a C 20 hours ago, ajhockey said: Miller has held them in games they had no business even coming close to winning. The d on this team is horrible and it shows in his #s. Even Price would have a hard time backing this lot. TSN predicted the Canucks in the bottom 5 of the league and put Miller as a bottom three goalie. Goes to show you what they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearditall Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 5 hours ago, John Tortorella said: Tbh virt is not where draisadal is in skill at all. Sry for spelling Yes... Kessel is much more skilled than Lucic too but in a playoff series & both are on their "A" game, I'm goung with Lucic all day long... I agree though Draisaitl is looking like a beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The ones that mkae me laugh hardest are the Prust and Cracknell grades. 5 and 4 points, plus players - for depth / 4th liners and they get Cs. Idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Hansen - 13 pts and +10 for 2.5 million and he gets a B. Teacher is a stingy mfer. (Goes without saying, but TrannaSN is peopled by morons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearditall Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 4 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Not in the school I went to Individual compared to a standard. There can only be one standard otherwise the grade is meaningless. U can't compare a Kindergarten student to a grade 7. If we were trying to get the best grade for a 3rd line centre than B.Richardson or S. Matthias or some older vet probably would get a better grade than McCann. But we are not going that root. We are going with the rookies so rookies should be graded with this in mind. McCann & Hutton have really over achieved here so far in most eyes so with these results they both deserve an above average mark for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 4 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Not in the school I went to Individual compared to a standard. There can only be one standard otherwise the grade is meaningless. Then perhaps we shouldn't be comparing these players in the first place. Their grade is meaningless to compare with each other to begin with, so stop comparing altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Not horrible ratings, but not great. Miller should be at least a C+ to a B. C- is waaay too harsh. Edler should be about a C- to a D. Switch Miller and Edler around. Bartkowski, C. Tanev, B to A- Baerschi, C+ Vrbata, D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Not a single dman on the Canucks can be rated above a C+. The only forwards I would rate above a C+ are the Twins and Hanson. I agree with the B rating on Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gforce31 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 8 hours ago, canuktravella said: ya sbisa has been decent not sure what your talking bout. As for miller hes keeping us in close games just because we lost a bunch on road trip is not his fault his dcorp was giving up multiple high grade scoring chances all game theres no goalie in league right now that would win with the chances canucks are giving up. I agree with this. Sbisa is the only d-man who makes it hard for the opposition to stand in-front of the net. He is a physical player. Miller has done really well this year. I think he is definitely earning his money this season (so far anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longsuffering Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A problem with the scale is that a "C" is "satisfactory" but no-one is graded less than satisfactory.... really!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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