Gaudette Celly Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Violator said: It's the system the Canucks have been using for about ten years score a bunch of goals fast and then sit back and collapse. Actually that system was put in place in 1970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: I'd move that Sedin line up a bit but that's EXACTLY the lineup I want to see. Realistically of course they would be 2nd line but the point is to get the majority of the young guys with offensive upside proper minutes to see what they have to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-d Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, 5ubmarine said: He was especially defensive when the topic went on to goldobin WD had to practice what he preaches. "you must defend and be defensive at all times. If you play well offensively I'll bench you because I get offended" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ubmarine Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, 1-d said: WD had to practice what he preaches. "you must defend and be defensive at all times. If you play well offensively I'll bench you because I get offended" lol that's actually pretty funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: As I said, that should continue down the stretch as well as into next season -- it was that way tonight. It was Goldobin's first game -- he has only had one skate with the team, and the Canucks spent much of the time on the PK. Will almost certainly get more icetime tomorrow, especially considering it's a back-to-back. The team needs scoring, it's in his best interests to get him in there once he is integrated into the team. It's not like he's a 28 year old veteran; he's only played 12 NHL games. We need to get some grit first. Your argument makes no sense. With it being a back to back all the more reason to keep rolling 4 lines and 3 d pairings when you have a 4-0 or 4-1 lead. There is literally no viable excuse for the bench management tonight (or many other nights). Trying to defend leads by sending out the Sedins and the plug patrol has literally never worked as expected by Willie. Maybe that's a clue to stop trying it in the hope it eventually will, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck7635 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 + It's only been one game? two games?, but Erikssons looked his best all year playing with Bo-Baer + Baer hasn't missed a beat and laid the smackdown a couple of times which was nice to see, especially coming back from a concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bandwagon38 said: Maybe that super exciting rush might make the others drop the "system " and want to have fun out there again and be creative, coach WD can't have that! We've got rules and systems, no fun This team could be playing like it has nothing to lose and start enjoying the game again. Instead stubborn old Willie continues to play his "systems " which basically set the team up for failure on most nights The players will be playing someone else's system next year and they know it. So why push it Willie. Unshackle the slaves and let them have some fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Let's review Willie's "system" for tonight's game; - get outshot 44-17 - score 2 own goals - bench the one guy that scores a legitimate highlight reel goal - allow the other team to roll right back into the game - rely on being saved by the final buzzer great "system" Willie, I sure hope Goldy picks it up quickly so he can hope to move up to six minutes next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Actually that system was put in place in 1970. Lol. Mission accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, canuck2288 said: Let's review Willie's "system" for tonight's game; - get outshot 44-17 - score 2 own goals - bench the one guy that's scores a legitimate highlight reel goal - allow the other team to roll right back into the game - rely on being saved by the final buzzer great "system" Willie, I sure hope Goldy picks it up quickly so he can hope to move up to six minutes next game his son Megna kicked started the Kings comeback. that just earned him 15mins of ice time tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Your argument makes no sense. With it being a back to back all the more reason to keep rolling 4 lines and 3 d pairings when you have a 4-0 or 4-1 lead. There is literally no viable excuse for the bench management tonight (or many other nights). Trying to defend leads by sending out the Sedins and the plug patrol has literally never worked as expected by Willie. Maybe that's a clue to stop trying it in the hope it eventually will, The Sedins struggle in their own zone but keep getting put out there, so what does that tell you? That he doesn't yet trust other players enough to displace them. Can you really see Willie benching the Sedins in the last 5 minutes of a game? Losing is the last thing any coach wants to do. Who knows, maybe he's on the edge of changing that. Again, look at the icetime -- Sedins are no longer tops on the team. The transition is happening (both on the ice and off), just not as fast as many might want it. Ironically, it's happening faster than if they'd totally blown it all up and started over with just draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ubmarine Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Your argument makes no sense. With it being a back to back all the more reason to keep rolling 4 lines and 3 d pairings when you have a 4-0 or 4-1 lead. There is literally no viable excuse for the bench management tonight (or many other nights). Trying to defend leads by sending out the Sedins and the plug patrol has literally never worked as expected by Willie. Maybe that's a clue to stop trying it in the hope it eventually will, I used to think that defense first translates to good offense, and W's, back in the devils hay days but hardly am I convinced after the past couple years nobody is scared of the canuck's attack anymore, besides horvat's one man shows no more guys hanging around the slot, no more slap passes, no more third man cheating down low and you still lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 That's where the media needs to ask better and more pointed questions. "Megna took a penalty 200 feet from your net which seemed to provide the spark for an almost comeback. How do you explain then rewarding that player with a move up the lineup at the expense of a young guy who scored?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, MaxLapierreAwesomeFace said: WD...Boucher has an amazing game two games ago, gets like 7 minutes of ice last game and benched today Goldy scores a goal, gets demoted off the Sutter line and then benched... FXXX OFF Exactly! I have no idea what WD is doing. The Megna experiment hasn't worked to this point, why continue it. The opportunity should be given to younger players when the games are meaningless like this. I think Willie is just auditioning for his next team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: The Sedins struggle in their own zone but keep getting put out there, so what does that tell you? That he doesn't yet trust other players enough to displace them. Can you really see Willie benching the Sedins in the last 5 minutes of a game? Losing is the last thing any coach wants to do. Who knows, maybe he's on the edge of changing that. Again, look at the icetime -- Sedins are no longer tops on the team. The transition is happening (both on the ice and off), just not as fast as many might want it. Ironically, it's happening faster than if they'd totally blown it all up and started over with just draft picks. Your first point is exactly why Willie should be fired tonight. What more does he need to see from some players? How much less does he need to see from the Sedins to reduce their role? He is clueless about the obvious right in front of him and is coaching scared. If Willie wants to win games he should bench the Sedins to protect leads late in games actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: The Sedins struggle in their own zone but keep getting put out there, so what does that tell you? That he doesn't yet trust other players enough to displace them. Can you really see Willie benching the Sedins in the last 5 minutes of a game? Losing is the last thing any coach wants to do. Who knows, maybe he's on the edge of changing that. Again, look at the icetime -- Sedins are no longer tops on the team. The transition is happening (both on the ice and off), just not as fast as many might want it. Ironically, it's happening faster than if they'd totally blown it all up and started over with just draft picks. Henrik should rip the C off of his chest and walk over to Horvat. Rip the A off of Bo's chest and say 'Here let's switch.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thLineGrinder Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, ilduce39 said: Why? Because look at what he's done with Horvat, Baertschi and Granlund. Our 3 promising young forwards have all performed beyond expectations under Willy. i'd throw a tip of the hat to hutton, stecher, tryamkin, and heck, even sbisa on the defensive end of it. Our 4 promising young defensemen have all performed beyond expectations under Willy. that's a good part of a pie charts worth of youth development there right on or ahead of schedule but, you know, fire wille because CDC can coach better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-d Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Then JB should be fired for not being able to control how his vision and strategic direction are being translated into the on Ice product. Willie works for Jim. Sometimes it feels like it is the other way around. Actually WD is Trevor's guy. It looks more and more like JB is stuck between a rock and a hard place, with FA and Trevor keep looking over his shoulder. Apparently WD doesn't give rat's ass about what JB says and Trevor himself often deviates from what JB indicates. Undermining your GM never ends well.. well maybe it's too late already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Your first point is exactly why Willie should be fired tonight. What more does he need to see from some players? How much less does he need to see from the Sedins to reduce their role? Fire the coach of a rebuilding team out of the playoffs with less than 20 games to go, who has the trust of the players and has them putting out good effort. Not sure how that makes any sense, unless you already have his successor lined up. It might placate the emotionally charged up and angry, but is nothing but a reactionary move. Not going to accomplish anything of value. Finish the season then take stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, 1-d said: Actually WD is Trevor's guy. It looks more and more like JB is stuck between a rock and a hard place, with FA and Trevor keep looking over his shoulder. Apparently WD doesn't give rat's ass about what JB says and Trevor himself often deviates from what JB indicates. Undermining your GM never ends well.. well maybe it's too late already. Loved Linden as a player, not much of a fan of him as a President though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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