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Evaluating Willie Desjardins

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10 minutes ago, Setyoureyesontheprize said:

what a broad statement you just made. 

 

You think willie is the one responsible for Horvats, Baer, Granlunds progression but actually it's the player that has made the difference through preseverence AND playing through the coaches biased view and usage of veterans over younger players EVEN when the numbers show that the vets are making just as many mistakes but they are not held accountable to the same degree.

 

The fact that there is such a big gap in accountability between the veterans who repeatedly make the same mistakes and the young players who need play, and  make mistakes to learn and develop is enough for us to see him detrimental to our youth and as  a  major cause of stagnation in their long term development.

this fact alone is enough to get his ass fired but somehow he's still employed and causing huge damage to our prospects by shattering their confidence  at a very delicate but enormously critical junction of their development.

 

 

 

 

 

Is there a reason why the three young topscorers never play together? Bear - Bo - Granlund should be the logical first line. Willie should try it for at least one single game.

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1 hour ago, Setyoureyesontheprize said:

what a broad statement you just made. 

 

You think willie is the one responsible for Horvats, Baer, Granlunds progression but actually it's the player that has made the difference through preseverence AND playing through the coaches biased view and usage of veterans over younger players EVEN when the numbers show that the vets are making just as many mistakes but they are not held accountable to the same degree.

 

The fact that there is such a big gap in accountability between the veterans who repeatedly make the same mistakes and the young players who need play, and  make mistakes to learn and develop is enough for us to see him detrimental to our youth and as  a  major cause of stagnation in their long term development.

this fact alone is enough to get his ass fired but somehow he's still employed and causing huge damage to our prospects by shattering their confidence  at a very delicate but enormously critical junction of their development.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah yeah yeah -  a typical kids argument made by someone who is forced to defend their bias.

The fact you think WD would be able to drop the Twins shows how naive you are. The fact you think ANY coach would judge vets on the same basis as a rookie shows how devoid of a clue you are.

 

 

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4 hours ago, darkpoet said:

evaluation?

don't know about you, but generally, this is what happens when you disobey your boss


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How has he disobeyed him and WHICH boss are you talking about.

 

Please quote the basis (accurately) for this piece of lynchmob buffoonery so we can all judge whether he has or hasn't. We won't hold our collective breaths.

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It hasn't all been bad. Horvat has developed well under  Desjardins (or possibly in spite of him), as have Bear Cheese, Granlund, Stetcher, Tryamkin, and Hutton.

 

That being said, there have also been (relative) failures under his watch as well. Virtanen, Gaunce, McCann and Kenins have all flopped under Desjardin's watch.

 

So his track record with our young players, while decent, is far from perfect.

 

The less said about his player deployment the better. Benching an offensive prospect after scoring a goal in a 4-0 game (Shortening the bench in the first half of a back-to-back, I might add) is just ridiculous. Hopefully Benning gave him a call about that one.

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Young guys excelling and playing the right way.

Team busting their asses for him - lots of comebacks, rare vacant performances.

Systems relatively tight, good luck pressure and support over 200.

M.A.S.H. and mumps unit and yet respectably competitive and flirting with .500 throughout the season.

But, but I think I know more about player deployment than dumb Willie.

 

Grade: 7.5

 

Willie stays. The most important things are progressing of the young players, consistent effort and a team game, all of which have been real good.

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5 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

Ahh, so we're not allowed to criticize him because he's an NHL coach and we're not.

 

Got it.

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Fill your boots.

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Willie is a decent coach but he obviously isn't perfect. I am concerned about some of his tendencies. 

1) He doesn't react and sticks to systems. If a PP or a line is stale and not working together, Willie won't change it up and try something new, look for a spark. Listening to yesterday's game you could see how that quality can bring some luck by looking at LA. The 4th line got a chance on the PP. You definitely need a balance but Willie is too stubborn.

2) Again. He sticks to his systems too much. If a new player doesn't know his system then he won't play. Again theres no catalyst, no spark. You can't develop a player like Boucher or Goldy unless they are there from the beginning. Systems can be countered or at least it feels that way.

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1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

By that logic, criticizing anybody on the team, or in the NHL at all is completely unwarranted, as I'm pretty sure none of us have jobs in the NHL.

 

Ref makes a bad call? "I'd like to se you do better!"

 

Player gets called out on a mistake? "Well you try playing on an NHL team!"

 

GM gets criticized for a poor move? "Let's see your GM credentials!"

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

 

This also goes for any team besides the Canucks. 

 

Would posters that think that having the job makes them beyond criticism walk away defeated if they used that argument to defend the likes of Lowe and Eakins?

 

What about Torts? He's still a coach in this NHL so I guess he's also infallible.

 

Or is it just working for the Canucks that gives you that distinction? 

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4 hours ago, Setyoureyesontheprize said:

what a broad statement you just made. 

 

You think willie is the one responsible for Horvats, Baer, Granlunds progression but actually it's the player that has made the difference through preseverence AND playing through the coaches biased view and usage of veterans over younger players EVEN when the numbers show that the vets are making just as many mistakes but they are not held accountable to the same degree.

 

The fact that there is such a big gap in accountability between the veterans who repeatedly make the same mistakes and the young players who need play, and  make mistakes to learn and develop is enough for us to see him detrimental to our youth and as  a  major cause of stagnation in their long term development.

this fact alone is enough to get his ass fired but somehow he's still employed and causing huge damage to our prospects by shattering their confidence  at a very delicate but enormously critical junction of their development.

 

 

 

 

 

POST OF THE MONTH !

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1 hour ago, oldnews said:

Young guys excelling and playing the right way.

Team busting their asses for him - lots of comebacks, rare vacant performances.

Systems relatively tight, good luck pressure and support over 200.

M.A.S.H. and mumps unit and yet respectably competitive and flirting with .500 throughout the season.

But, but I think I know more about player deployment than dumb Willie.

 

Grade: 7.5

 

Willie stays. The most important things are progressing of the young players, consistent effort and a team game, all of which have been real good.

Thank goodness you are not the GM 

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Enterianment value 0

upbeat 0

scoring 0

hitting 0

push back 0

Getting the most out of what he's got 2 

system 0

interviews 0

player deployment 2

effective in game adjustment 0

mustache 8

twiching 10

In game deer in headlights 10

dump 10

chase 10

Heavily Rely on goaltender 10

over play Larsen and megna 10

looking for a new job in the summer 10

 

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2 hours ago, alfstonker said:

How has he disobeyed him and WHICH boss are you talking about.

 

Please quote the basis (accurately) for this piece of lynchmob buffoonery so we can all judge whether he has or hasn't. We won't hold our collective breaths.

Go back and watch JB's post trade deadline press conference. 

 

I know he uses really big words like "evaluate" and "develop" which you may need to lookup in a dictionary but hopefully you will get the general idea 

 

if not I can try and draw a picture of Goldy getting ice time for you 

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