Misconduct16 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 After today's lovely media availability, it has become even clearer that Duchene does not have a future in Colorado (so long as Sakic et. all are there). At the draft they reportedly wanted at least 3 pieces: 1 - Top Pairing Potential NHL Defenceman under 25 2 - High level prospect 3 - 1st round pick Now that has to have come down a little, but Duchene is a hell of a hockey player (and would look great on Horvats Left Side with Boeser on the Right, no offence to Sven). Would you give up this package for it? 1 - Tanev 2 - Brisebois/Subban 3 - Gaudette/Lockwood Now the downside is the risk he doesn't want to resign in Vancouver, because in all likelihood the canucks aren't going to be in the playoffs in his current contract (2 years) and are definitely not going to be contenders in that timeline. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Note: Tags are mandatory only in the Trades, Rumours, Signings forum and in the Proposals and Armchair GM'ing forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I would do that package, but Colorado wouldn't ask for it and if you offered it they tell you to pound sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 meh, Sakic has managed to negotiate himself out of a reasonable deal. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up losing Duchene for very little next TDL. A true top pairing D under 25 and a prospect is very reasonable for Duchene. If Sakic wants picks too, then he needs to come down to a top 4 D, so something like this: Hutton and our 2019 1st but only if we get to negotiate an extension before the trade is completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'd eat a Klondike bar. On a side note, what's your source from the media availability? Sutter + 3rd for Duchene straight up. That's all I'd do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 As long as it doesn't include Horvat, Boeser, Joulevi, Pettersson, Dahlen, or our 2018 or 2019 1st rd pick I am game.... If its a reasonable trade ofc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, PunjabiCanucks said: As long as it doesn't include Horvat, Boeser, Joulevi, Pettersson, Dahlen, or our 2018 or 2019 1st rd pick I am game.... If its a reasonable trade ofc. I'd consider the 2019 only because with Duchene and Bo as the 1-2 Cs and Juolevi able to step into Huttons spot we may actually make the wildcard that season. But not the 2018 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliteriousBlackbeard Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Tanev Tryamkin before everyone gets mad. I love this guy, his number 1 fan. He seems through with the Canucks for now anyway. 2nd round pick next year Why would sakic go for this? I dunno but it would be pretty sweet to lose minimal for Duchene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I'd consider the 2019 only because with Duchene and Bo as the 1-2 Cs and Juolevi able to step into Huttons spot we may actually make the wildcard that season. But not the 2018 1st. Only reason 2019 is a no go is I don't see us drastically improving until a goaltender steps in of a higher caliber. Maybe he goes to Carolina ? I believe they have good D prospects if I'm not mistaken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, PunjabiCanucks said: Only reason 2019 is a no go is I don't see us drastically improving until a goaltender steps in of a higher caliber. Maybe he goes to Carolina ? I believe they have good D prospects if I'm not mistaken... Just for hell sakes, if he does not resign we get some consolidation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/analyzing-five-potential-trade-destinations-matt-duchene/ NYI, MTL, CAR, CBJ, & LA are the teams listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Nothing Sakic's a dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Raymond, Ballard, and a 2nd rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Luxury Yacht Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I may be the odd man out here, but I wouldn't give much for Duchene at the moment. We are, for all intents and purposes, rebuilding. If we trade prospects and picks we are prolonging the agony for a player that may or may not stay. Let's say he get him, where does he slot in? I'm kind of hoping Hank and Bo are Line 1 and 2 Centers. I don't think he's the answer for the Canucks, not unless Sakic really wants Eriksson. I'd consider moving a prospect, pick and Eriksson for sure, if only to dump the contract....but that's basically Ballard. Raymond and 1st and Super Joe wouldn't take it. He will end taking less than he wants though, I would wager a Banh Mi sandwich on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I think that Sakic overplayed his cards, and will have to take a much lower return than expected. Duchene is not a player you build a team around, he is more of a complimentary piece. He is a 40-60 point, 20 goal scorer who is a minus player, save for a few exceptions. I don`t see him returning much more than a B prospect, 2nd round pick and a roster player. I am not sure I would offer this, but it would probably get it done: Hutton Lind 2019 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 34 minutes ago, SliteriousBlackbeard said: Tanev Tryamkin before everyone gets mad. I love this guy, his number 1 fan. He seems through with the Canucks for now anyway. 2nd round pick next year Why would sakic go for this? I dunno but it would be pretty sweet to lose minimal for Duchene. Wait... Tanev, Tree and a 2nd?!! That's ludicrous. Duchene peaked in 2014... you can argue he's overpaid at 6 million even. If we're giving Tanev, I need something coming back on top of Duchene. --- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ---- Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2007-08 Brampton Battalion OHL 64 30 20 50 22 5 1 1 2 10 2008-09 Brampton Battalion OHL 57 31 48 79 42 21 14 12 26 21 2009-10 Colorado Avalanche NHL 81 24 31 55 16 6 0 3 3 0 2010-11 Colorado Avalanche NHL 80 27 40 67 33 -- -- -- -- -- 2011-12 Colorado Avalanche NHL 58 14 14 28 8 -- -- -- -- -- 2012-13 Frolunda HC SEL 19 4 10 14 12 -- -- -- -- -- 2012-13 Ambri-Piotta Swiss 4 2 3 5 2 -- -- -- -- -- 2012-13 Colorado Avalanche NHL 47 17 26 43 12 -- -- -- -- -- 2013-14 Colorado Avalanche NHL 71 23 47 70 19 2 0 3 3 2 2014-15 Colorado Avalanche NHL 82 21 34 55 16 -- -- -- -- -- 2015-16 Colorado Avalanche NHL 76 30 29 59 24 -- -- -- -- -- 2016-17 Colorado Avalanche NHL 77 18 23 41 12 -- -- -- -- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NHL Totals 572 174 244 418 140 8 0 6 6 2 21 minutes ago, Raymond Luxury Yacht said: I may be the odd man out here, but I wouldn't give much for Duchene at the moment. We are, for all intents and purposes, rebuilding. If we trade prospects and picks we are prolonging the agony for a player that may or may not stay. Let's say he get him, where does he slot in? I'm kind of hoping Hank and Bo are Line 1 and 2 Centers. I don't think he's the answer for the Canucks, not unless Sakic really wants Eriksson. I'd consider moving a prospect, pick and Eriksson for sure, if only to dump the contract....but that's basically Ballard. Raymond and 1st and Super Joe wouldn't take it. He will end taking less than he wants though, I would wager a Banh Mi sandwich on it. I think he's a fit for any team that wants to rebuild even. At 26 he's got a great skill set and could still be incredibly valuable but at 6 million and 41 points... the asking price from Sakic is outrageous. If he can take a fair price I'd do the trade. Duchene + 2nd for Tanev or Duchene For Sutter + 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 See what Kessel got. Sakic should have taken the prospect, Hamonic and 1st rounder from the Islanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Per Friedman. Sakic was apparently looking at one of Nashville's 4Ds + as return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'd take a wide berth..don't like the price tag. Why doesn't Mtl just get this over with? Something like Pacc, Shaw & Juulsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm a fan of duchene, but I wouldn't give up much for him he doesn't fit our mould maybe hutton and gaunce max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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