Nucker 67 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, coryberg said: Let's hope not. If he plays a game this year we lose a protection spot for the Seattle draft. What if Benning signed Hughes and Pettersson to new contracts with a NTC? Would they be exempt from the expansion draft? I would have no issue if these two guys had NTCs. I don't want them going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: What if Benning signed Hughes and Pettersson to new contracts with a NTC? Would they be exempt from the expansion draft? I would have no issue if these two guys had NTCs. I don't want them going anywhere. Can there be NTC clauses in ELC's? Can there be an NTC before a player reaches his UFA years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: Can there be NTC clauses in ELC's? Can there be an NTC before a player reaches his UFA years? Sorry, I have no idea, but that's an interesting thought. I guess it doesn't matter much, as Pettersson (and Hughes if he's affected) will be protected. Same with Boeser, Virtanen, Hutton, Gaudette and Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I don't think MDZ is anywhere near as bad as some people think and although I generally trust Green's assessment of his personnel, I don't think he deserves to be a healthy scratch to the extent he has been in Vancouver this year. Something about MDZ's style or decision-making out there that Green just won't overlook whereas Pouliot/Tony Stretcher are getting quite a long leash if you really dissect their games night-in-night-out. Not saying the kids (Stretcher/Pouliot) are bad, far from it, just that they're certainly not outplaying MDZ to the point they should be getting almost twice the opportunities to play that MDZ is getting. Maybe people see it differently and I'm definitely open to someone pointing out to me the deficiencies in MDZ's game compared to a couple other d-regulars but it must be incredibly frustrating for a veteran of almost 600 NHL games not to get into the line-up of a mediocre d-core on a more regular basis. If Green is as good a communicator as people say he is you'd think MDZ would know exactly what he needs to do in order to stick in the line-up - and if Green has told him and he hasn't committed to doing it then I guess he's getting what he deserves I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: What if Benning signed Hughes and Pettersson to new contracts with a NTC? Would they be exempt from the expansion draft? I would have no issue if these two guys had NTCs. I don't want them going anywhere. One - It's only NMC's (not NTC's) that require a protection slot (they're not 'exempt'). Two - neither are eligible for either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: What if Benning signed Hughes and Pettersson to new contracts with a NTC? Would they be exempt from the expansion draft? I would have no issue if these two guys had NTCs. I don't want them going anywhere. Doesn’t mean there exempt it means the team MUST protect them. Just like Eriksson must now be one of the player protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Tracksuit said: Doesn’t mean there exempt it means the team MUST protect them. Just like Eriksson must now be one of the player protected. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Tracksuit said: Doesn’t mean there exempt it means the team MUST protect them. Just like Eriksson must now be one of the player protected. Yeah, no, you are incorrect about that. Eriksson, specifically is not one of those players that the team HAS to be protected in the upcoming expansion draft. I suspect that it would be obvious that he would NOT be protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: Nope. Unless he agree to go he’s one on the forwards protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 He has a full Mnc doesn’t he. If not my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Addition by subtraction if we get rid of him. His play in his own end simply isn't acceptable from an NHL defensemen. I'm not thrilled about Pouliot in the lineup, but at least he's young enough where he can learn how to play defense. MDZ is a total liability and it's unreasonable to expect he will ever be capable of playing even AHL quality defense. Literally any return we get for this pylon is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Tracksuit said: Unless he agree to go he’s one on the forwards protected. 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: Nope. https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson Quote 2016-17 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $7,000,000 $1,000,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 2017-18 NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $7,000,000 $1,000,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 2018-19 NTC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $6,000,000 $1,000,000 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 2019-20 NTC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $4,000,000 $1,000,000 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 2020-21 Modified NTC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $3,000,000 $1,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 2021-22 Modified NTC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $1,000,000 $3,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 * Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft: a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender * All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, aGENT said: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson Right. Still a mnc doesn’t get you exemption it just makes it nadatory to protect do it has no value in that sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tracksuit said: * All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits). He doesn't have a current NMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, aGENT said: He doesn't have a current NMC. I see that his status changed, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 What Lisa Ann is interested in him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Nope. Even Loui's own mother wouldn't claim him in an expansion draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Even Loui's own mother wouldn't claim him in an expansion draft. That wasn't the discussion. And who knows, we might be able to sell it with a 2nd piece. That said, I'd imagine we'll just lose a guy besides him and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 MDZ and a 6th to any team for a 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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