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It's not on him to nuke his market value.

Question for Danila: What has he enjoyed about playing in Abbotsford? What has he enjoyed about living in BC? Thank you!

There is no such as "the truth". Everyone has truths, but it depends on what is emphasized and what isn't.

Gillis did a lot of good things for the team, but the price he had paid, which was the Canucks future, should always be acknowledged. It was very expensive. He showed his true colours when the core was in decline. You can tell because he drafted poorly. You can't build a team without a good draft.

It's not a steal. They turned their own developed 2nd round pick into TWO second round picks (we will both agree that the 1st round pick is essentially a very high second rounder). Our pick itself is a decently high 2nd rounder. This is called selling high. Meanwhile, we haven't sold high on any of our assets. The Horvat return is just ok. The Islanders aren't regretting the trade (yet). Horvat has helped the Islanders make it into the playoffs. They were actually out of the playoff spot at the time of the trade.

Paying a 1st and a 2nd isn't a steal - not by any standard.

To be fair, Eakins did Anaheim a huge favour this year... Anaheim should be grateful for that pick.

Yeah... I don't think he should be in the same class as Crosby. And... our very own Jeremy Colliton I think Colliton may have gotten away with some trouble, even if it's definitely nowhere near the same level as Aldrich. Let's hope that he learns from this incident and tries to be a better person moving forward.

Everyone above deserves the blame. However, Toews went out of his way to defend the higher ups, including Bowman and all his 'precious' contributions to the city and the team. Toews is what you call an apologist.

This is pretty damning of a "statement" of Toews, which was really a snapshot of him right there. What he should've done was address what the organization did and didn't do with regards to Beach. But Toews was more than just a coward - he downplayed the incident so much that much of his words here were emphasized to defend Bowman - as if Bowman was the victim! I don't really like cancel culture per se, but the critics of cancel culture often want to overlook questionable actions and behaviours so that they aren't subject to consequences. Toews really tarnished his own career towards the end. I think Toews should be persona non grata in the HHOF, to be honest. He was a good player, but his off-ice (and possibly on-ice) behaviour, such as what he did above, should take him out of consideration.

There's a lot of people at 21 years old that would've done something differently. This is just a stupid way of making an excuse for this.

I hope they extend Burroughs. He is surprisingly physical. I'm not really into physical defenseman (nor am I against them), but he's been a very nice addition to an NHL lineup.

There is a bit more hustle from Brock. Before, he would give up on plays too easily and the puck would disappear from that offensive zone. It's not 100 percent better than before, but there is a noticeable jump. I honestly believe Brock will light it up next year. I bet he knows exactly what he needs to work on this summer.

That's actually not true at all. The Canucks lowballed Horvat quite badly. This was widely reported actually.

I don't love Benning. This has been a terribly false narrative attached to me, partially because people like you don't seem to account for my criticisms of Benning. The thing is, I noticed the good things that he did bring. But it's obvious that his trades AND pro scouting, among other things, have been severely lacking, to the point of handcuffing the team. I've already said in a previous post that if Benning had the kind of pro scouting that this current regime had, his tenure as a GM would've been extremely favourable. Alas, that isn't the case. I've been extremely critical of Gillis as a drafter because of all the terrible draft picks from the 1st round to the 7th. People make all kinds of excuses for his draft. Benning had a much better draft record. It's one of the few bright spots of him being a GM. He had some people like Brackett to help him out. Yet after Brackett left, our American scouting took a bit of a dive. This current regime has made a ton of mistakes, some of which were self-inflicted; however, there is no denying that their pro scouting is so much better than Gillis' and Benning's. Gillis had some really good players at favourable cap hits. However, he had his share of absolute duds - Garrison for starters. Also, Gillis' trade for Ballard was atrocious (Grabner + 1st round pick, and he was actually bought out by Gillis himself). Meanwhile, as critical as I am about this regime, their trades and free signings have been a lot more reasonable for the most part. Bear was a good trade. Joshua is one of my favourite free agent signings, which I openly praise. Each GM so far has has their flaws. So far, with recent transactions, Allvin has done a better job to fixing their own mistakes. They are still quite tight to the cap and their playoff projections were WELL OFF from what they had stated. However, we do have a bright future, largely because of our preexisting prospects, plus the new players that this regime brought in, like Kuzmenko.

Erm, what? Demko - 2nd round pick Hoglander - 2nd round pick Rathbone - 3rd round pick Doesn't matter?

Totally agree.

Benning's draft picks have been: Pettersson (a lot of the talk of him not choosing Pettersson has purely been speculation and not fact. At the end of the day, Pettersson was picked because of Delorme, among others, with Benning making that final call), Hughes, Podkolzin, Klimovich, etc etc. There's a lot of prospects that this current regime inherited because of Benning. The successful draft picks have been a major change from the previous regime (Gillis). That being said, no question, the trading and free agent signings have been a disaster for the most part. There were oodles of potential wins with those trades (i.e. Nate Schmidt, Vey, Clendenning), but they never really took off. Gillis would've been the worst GM to rebuild this team around, given his tremendous lack of draft pick successes. You just cannot build a team without growing your own players, and that's why we don't see him back in another GM job.

I've given JR/Allvin a lot of criticism for how they had started this "rebuild" and they still have a lot more to prove so far; however, one of the most undeniably positive things they did do was pro scouting. These college signings, for example, have been a breath of fresh air. Still, we don't know how good these players will be, but these signings are definitely not hurting the team. They are cash-strapped right now (from their own doing), so I'm curious to see how these players will turn out. I really appreciate having Kuzmenko and Joshua on this team. These two have been fantastic free agent signings by Allvin. Credit goes to them and their colleagues. The drafting has to be another thing to watch out for. There's certain posters that compare this regime with Gillis, and my god, I sure hope it's not Gillis tier. The drafting under Gillis was beyond atrocious and indefensible. For all the playoff successes that he did have, preparing the team for the future was definitely a massive failure. This shouldn't even be a question, nor should there be excuses. As I've said, I've been a critic about Allvin's management choices, but it seems like they are turning the corner. If Benning had been able to pro scout the way these guys have been doing, it very well might have saved Benning from making the mistakes he made through trades and free agent signings, year after year. Benning's pieces are still on the team and there should be no illusions that the recent successes of the team were because of Allvin. Benning was the first chapter, and Allvin is clearly the second one. Where this story goes, it'll be on Allvin and no one else.

https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/nhl-defensemen-stats.html We can't be making up stuff if we're going to make a case for something. He is actually ranked 29th by points.

@-SN- carved himself a nice career, but he didn't live up to his draft selection. Can't believe they managed to snag @-Vintage Canuck-though.

It's actually called asset management.

He sold very high on Hronek. A former 2nd round draft pick that netted him two high picks from a lotto team.

It's almost like all this experience with Woo in the AHL doesn't mean anything. Woo is most definitely ahead of Johansson.

That guy was an arrogant asshat, and before anyone puts up a counter for him, no he wasn't always right, nor was he 'mostly right'. The guy just denies and deflects.