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Motto of this trade - culture changer required

Four road games in six nights isn't easy. Back home.

Foligno running around laying cheap shots all night...need to check guys like that

Barrie, to me, is one of those talented players that is always going to be on teams that don't know how to win. He has a ton of offensive talent but is a negative on the defensive end. IMHO the Canucks should stay away, especially given his expected salary demands (same with Taylor Hall)

Ya interesting how that worked. Fleury had essentially fallen out of favour in Pit and got a new lease on life in Vegas. Will be interesting how teams play the next expansion draft given the crazy success of Vegas.

He'll be 31 so could see them trying to acquire a younger goalie - depends who else is available on the Canucks as well.

Ya probably a good chance of that but I think his age does play a role and Marky seems like location might be more important than extra dollars (if over six million, there are some other veteran free agents available in 2020).

Sign Marky to a four year $5MM to $5.5MM contract and protect Demko for the expansion draft. If Seattle takes Marky so be it but chances are they don't and the Canucks will have a solid goalie tandem for the next 2 to 3 years until one of Marky or Demko get moved.

Management and the coaching staff clearly want some defensive help on the NHL team to allow the key young guys room to develop. If the bottom six eat heavy defensive minutes, EP40, etc. can focus on getting better. I think the current structure is as much about the long-term as it is about the short-term. As EP40, etc. mature and take on more of the heavy lifting, the third line will include more and more players with offensive upside.

How is that even a penalty? I am confused

Loving JV's game right now

Lucic needs to be protected for expansion draft.......plus an extra year on the contract. Can't see any realistic scenario where it made sense to trade him for Loui. Neal is performing well for the Oil right now so will be interesting to see how long that lasts.

Detroit has three wins this year - Preds, Stars and Habs so Canucks need to come to play on Tuesday.

The top lines for Edmonton and Calgary have been better (PP & 5v5) and that has been the difference. Ferland hasn't found his groove with EP40 and Boeser yet. Lot's of new bodies, will take a while to get some chemistry going. Really liked Jake's jump with Gaudette. Still like the overall makeup of the team, just need more reps.

Agreed, Sven is a risk given his injury history and Canucks need consistency this year.

Agreed, I think Sven is just the odd man out. His injury history makes him a wild card and the Canucks desperately need some consistency this year. He filled the gap admirably but got pushed out of his role by a younger draft pick...not as horrible a move as it is being made out to be. Also, the extra room would allow them to better push a trade for Loui (retain salary, etc.)

Ya, something else is likely in the works although I don't think Loui is going anywhere. Need him for the PK, etc. and the team clearly wants to build up his value for TD and 2020 summer.

Aaaah logic, it's a beautiful thing

I agree. Salary sucks big time but Loui clearly fits a role that is still required in the NHL...PK and shut down defensive forward...wish his AAV was $2MM but it isn't so time to move on. I don't see anyone picking up Sven given his injury history. He'll be up soon enough when injuries in the top six strike.

Agreed, Sutter on the wing seems to make sense given the emergence of AG. Most of Sutter's offense comes off the rush and he is an offensive black hole in the center. AG will have some rough games as he continues to develop but it appears as though time has come to give him a shot.

I agree, playing more and more 18 to 22 year old "kids" 82 games per season and against established veterans is going to lead to an increase in injuries to significant players.

Really just prospective on my end now - Jake is likely never going to "figure it out" but on a value contract (like his current one) he is a valuable third or fourth liner who can play with speed, fore-check, and potentially pot 15 to 20 goals. If he starts trying to demand $2.5MM plus then it's time to consider moving on. Until that point I think the team should keep utilizing him for what he is. I do think he is the type of play who will be valuable come playoff time (he can offer up punishing hits and for some reason he gets under the skin of opposing players).

GMJB out GMed again...oh wait. Plan is in full effect...time to drop the puck.

It is a business so it is what it is and no point getting emotional about it. Even from a business viewpoint, it is hard to see the benefits of holding out at this point. Even on a six year deal Brock will still be 28 years old and set to sign another sizable contract. He has only played two half seasons...not much justification for a huge, huge pay day. If he is stuck on three years then he should accept the going rate for RFAs.

A number of poor signing for sure but in context somewhat required and not necessarily reflective of how GMJB will behave with a successful team in place i.e. (1) Van spends to the cap each year to justify ticket prices and (2) JB needed to fill spots with established vets to maintain a strong culture as his prospects joined the team (pros and cons of this plan have been much debated - I feel it has some validity but it is clearly subjective). The team has missed the playoffs for four years and JB started five years ago, if this years team makes the playoffs and shows future upside it will be hard to deny that GMJB has pulled off a fairly tidy and quick rebuild.