DSVII

Best coach ever

Blessed Bowness Today was a good day

Tbf. This team was capable of it. As bad as people thought Green was no one could have predicted that bad run with a historically bad PK and PP.

Imagine being able to squeeze a dman from Vegas or Tampa with that cap space.... Similar frustrations to us having no cap in 2020 when salaries were depressed and we could have signed top line ufas for cheaper. Mortgaging the future with no sense of foresight and timing

just expressing my doubts as his time in Calgary was being used as a defense against claims of nepotism earlier in this thread. Weisbrod and his relationship with JB is the connection there. And it's not petty hating JB on a personal level, it's a celebration for the franchise. Fans are going to move on the same way Americans moved on from the 4th of July. I also find it ironic that only months later you're asking people to move on when the corpse of Gillis has been brought up by JB defenders for years to justify the state of the team. Bennings cap crunch and the state of the farm is going to affect us for years. People have memories of the last 8 years. Talk isn't going to stop. Anyways that's enough for this thread. Back to the scouts.

Guess who was AGM of the flames during that time that hired him as the scout? That worked with Jim as a scout in Boston? John Weisbrod AGM of the Flames. (June 2011-Dec 2013) Brandon Benning as a Flames Scout (Nov 2011 - Aug 2014) Did not even last a year after Weisbrod was fired by the Flames. John Weisbrod then becomes our AGM, and he hired Brandon again. The Flames drafting under that regime (flubbing 2 of 3 first round picks in 2013!) Prior experience before the Flames as per his linkedin, an office assistant. Combined with a non-existant hockey playing history (at least JB had that background). Color me skeptical that he was qualified..

Great game. Man if the Leafs had played with this intensity against Boston or any of the other past opponents they'd have advanced long time ago. They're definitely driven this year.

Back to the topic on hand, it's crazy how much Brock has had to go through at such a young age. I remember the story when we drafted him about how his best friend died the year before. Nothing but love for the guy and his character is above the charts. (as others mentioned, the prom story, the hospital visits, the charities) One of the true class act guys. Hope he finds the support he needs during this time.

I think even if it was, you'll find the content won't change. Adults are just bigger kids, with stronger more entrenched opinions haha.

The issue isn't his decline. But how many years of his contract before his contribution declines below his cap hit value and you are left holding the bag for the remainder of the contract. Ala Loui So for sure. Try and sign him but if the numbers don't work. Free up the cap space to deploy on another asset that lines up with the competing window of the young guns.

For one glorious moment I forgot about his cap hit and the opportunity cost he represented on our RHD.

There's two Travis Green options and I only have one vote

One person that is missing from the comparables list who could represent a good outcome in production for a player like Miller in his age group. Joe Pavelski. He signed his deal at 29 but he's still performing at a high level up to his mid 30s and being paid $7 million currently. Wondering if he can be used as a comp as well for Miller (that $6-7 mil accounting for inflation of course)

I'll see if I have time to dissect your post @HKSR with stats, because each of those deals were signed under different team contexts, cap structures, and competing window, but for now, i'll add this. What would this signal to Petey, who is due for an extension in two years at 25 years old, that we pay a 30 year old Miller $9.2 mil? There's a chance Petey can match JT's production as a 25 year old if he turns out the star we think he is, and it will throw out the cap structure of the team if he starts asking for a bigger pay day. Then we end up in a potential Toronto-Tavares/Matthews situation, except our defense isn't dirt cheap like theirs to balance out the cap.

$13.2 million Myers and OEL = 47 points $7.8 mil Hughes = 66 points Yeah we need more production back there, and a cap efficient one too.

It certainly wasn't a boring year

Bubble teams don't go for rentals. TT belongs in the conversation because he demonstrates how out to lunch the last regime was. Besides Benning himself said it. He tried to bring him back but 'ran out of time '

If we commit to a rebuild, then we go all in, none of this half assed 'get younger while staying competitive' stuff. We need to go all in on a rebuild and sell whatever isn't bolted down (i.e Demko, Hughes, Petey) If we retool, then I'd like to see some of the inefficient contracts moved in the same vein as Hamonic (Poolman/Dickinson/Myers or OEL), Cap space is an asset and the fact we couldn't take advantage of it during the 2020 season when premium players were signing for discounts still urks me. We need some more cap flexibility. At the end of the day, I'd like to see a draft where we end up with more picks than our allotted 7, and more picks in the top 100 (rounds 1-3). Gotta replenish the farm. There shouldn't be another draft where we operate at a deficit (less than 7 picks, especially less than 3 picks in the top 100), we have to restock our cupboards at a faster rate than our rivals, particularly in the division.

Luck is when opportunity meets preparation. And the blues had a very uniqye circumstance (not to mention swindling buffalo for ROR) not comparable to us at all and we cant ignore fundamentals and bank our future cup on a once in a lifetime run

Correct me if i'm wrong, but that $7.5 mil is only 1 year right? If we offer him some stability and term the $6.3 can still be enticing.

ATTABOY Ovi! Make it 51

I'm hoping Brock takes the number suggested here! Also, not sure we will find a market for Dickinson and Poolman. The cap is only going up 1 mil and a lot of teams will be cap strapped. The Senators was a weird case where the assistant coach knew Hamonic and lobbied for him even if he wasn't worth the cap hit, but here's hoping we can find a way to move them without paying assets.

Hoping Quinn gets a pt tonight, he's only 5 away from the franchise Defensemen record.

I'm not gonna defend JB. The day he left I popped champagne. He's set this team back years with his mismanagement so no, not a blind follower. But I'm just trying to be charitable. We saw our president let go because he tried to get owner to buy into a slow cooked rebuild in 2017. This is the same owner we have that wants all trades run past him, it was Aqua who vetoed a Hamhuis deal with Dallas in 2016. Who vetoed Gillis on a Kesler trade to Pittsburgh and fired Nonis for not trading for Brad Richard's. JB wanted to keep his job so he agreed to Aqua's near impossible bullseye of a 'rebuild' while aiming for playoffs. Benning was a bad GM but Aqua did not want a rebuild and he interferes. I'll grant he let Benning some more autonomy when he threw Linden under the bus tho.

Two weeks means he's just in time for playoffs On the other hand, if we lose and we get a better draft position, win-win