Merci Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Adam Larrson is a right handed Edler, drafted 4th overall last year. He is a blue chip prospect and exactly what we need in our current situation, someone to develop into a stud 4th defensemen. He is Swedish and it almost seems too real we could get him. 6"3 215 Who else do we get in this trade? Alexi Ponikarovasky 6"4 220 LW who is the left handed winger we need on the third line once Raymond is gone. Imagine a 3rd line of Poni-Pahllson-Higgins Immense size, strength, and scoring touch. Luongo, 1st, Raymond's rights, Schroeder and Ballard Larrson Ponikarovsky Why does NJ do this? They have 2 goalies both on the brink of retiring. They need someone bad and who else to take over Brodeur's club than Luongo. NJ gives up their 4th overall pick and a decent 2.5 line LW they have more than enough of. They acquire a decent center to develop, Raymond who is dying for a change of scenery, a capable defense men to replace Larrson and hopefully find his game. Another 1st. And a franchise goalie for 8 years. Vancouver takes advantage of having Schneider in their situation, and they bolster the time to a point of near unstoppable. In essence we lose Raymond and Salo for Larrson and Poni. Sedins Burrows Booth Kesler Kassian Ponikarovasky Pahllson Higgins weise/manny Lapierre Hansen Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Larrson Tanev Gragnani Schneider Lack A new era of size on every line. A near perfect replacement for Salo. A bottom 6 as skilled as a bottom 9. I must say can any one argue this isn't the same Detroit system that has been so successful. A 2nd line ready to become a 1st line, a 3rd checking veteran line, and an under payed 4th line. Top 4 defensive system for years, a bottom pairing ready to develop into a top 4. The goalie of the decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbs_up_Jesus Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 seems like a bit of overpayment to me. we could have larsson straight up for luongo.. thats if NJ was even willing to consider it which id doubt cuz marty will probably squeeze another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Well this is never hapenning but if we had to trade Luongo to NJ, I'd say we go with something like: Larsson, Ponikarovsky, Hedberg and a 2nd for Luongo and Raymond, perhaps throw in some picks to sweaten the deal either way. Basically Raymond is traded straight up for Ponikarovsky, essentially a wash. That leaves Larsson and Hedberg for Luongo. Hedberg is a solid backup at best, and despite Larsson's hype, he hasn't dominated this season (2 goals, 18 points and a -7) so we're trading current quality for potential which is always a gamble because there is still a good chance he might not pan out, hence the 2nd rounder. Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Higgins - Kesler - Booth Ponikarovsky - Pahlsson - Hansen Kassian - Malhotra - Lapierre Bitz Bieksa - Hamhuis Edler - Larsson Tanev - Gragnani Schneider Hedberg That's assuming Ballard is traded for picks which should open up some more cap room, giving us quite a bit to sign Edler and potentially another top-4 defenceman. Definately a shaky defence, and I don't trust Schneider with 50-60 games just yet because we've only seen him play limited, pocket games but that lineup should be able to comfortably win another division title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Bankrupt Jersey is gunna take on 12.2 mill, $13.3 with Schroeder, in salary cap ? When they are already $63 mill against the cap themselves, and have to re-sign Parise... I can see why you chucked in a first ! And even then; we get Hosed in this proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 Yea but you guys are assuming Luongo doesn't blow up Raymond is a ufa we're basically trading negotiation, and we have a 27th overall 1st round and when would we need scroeder in the next 5 years now that we have Pahllson. I don't know where you guys claim this is over payment, maybe drop ballard and it makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzy Mahmood Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Take Larrson off the Devils' blue line and it's a bottom-5 core. He's a tremendous prospect with sky-high potential. Brodeur is supposedly going to carry on for one more year - why would they want Luongo? Or even Schneider? Unless we're giving up Tanev/Connauton, plus Kassian/Schroeder, plus a cap-friendly player like Burrows/Higgins, we won't have enough to persuade the Devils to part with their blue-chip franchise Dman. I despair of all these lopsided deals that make the Canucks super-contenders in exchange for random assets that the trading team doesn't need... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 Take Larrson off the Devils' blue line and it's a bottom-5 core. He's a tremendous prospect with sky-high potential. Brodeur is supposedly going to carry on for one more year - why would they want Luongo? Or even Schneider? Unless we're giving up Tanev/Connauton, plus Kassian/Schroeder, plus a cap-friendly player like Burrows/Higgins, we won't have enough to persuade the Devils to part with their blue-chip franchise Dman. I despair of all these lopsided deals that make the Canucks super-contenders in exchange for random assets that the trading team doesn't need... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Yea but you guys are assuming Luongo doesn't blow up Raymond is a ufa we're basically trading negotiation, and we have a 27th overall 1st round and when would we need scroeder in the next 5 years now that we have Pahllson. I don't know where you guys claim this is over payment, maybe drop ballard and it makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronski beat Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 i would do a luongo for volchenkov. or luongo for urbom. volchenkov is a machine im serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixtyEight Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Larsson's NJ's only hope for players in the future, rebuilding teams (which NJ will be soon enough) dont trade prospects they trade older guys for prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 We get raped nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikal Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 This is a god awful deal for Vancouver. Go back to the Xbox and try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susraiders Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 This is a terrible trade for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palindrom Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 No way Devils make this trade unless you take out Ballard of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzy Mahmood Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 1st,Schroeder,Raymond are assets new jersey could use. Trade if fair n square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_trevor16 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 NTC NTC NTC NTC Schneider is gone we all know tis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marleau_12 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 i would do a luongo for volchenkov. or luongo for urbom. volchenkov is a machine im serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 i would do a luongo for volchenkov. or luongo for urbom. volchenkov is a machine im serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Two big ifs. If Marty Retires. IF Luongo is willing to give up his no trade clause. Luongo for Larsson, New Jersey's 1st in 2012 or 2013, and a 3rd rounder in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gragnanifan1 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 nah dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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