Mike Vanderhoek Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 As much as he could really produce in Philly, it would be a crime if Carle left and Souray joined the Flyers. I see Washington retaining Green and letting Wideman walk, not to mention Poti has got to be finished, how would Souray fit in with the Capitals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Still put up solid numbers for a guy bouncing around all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 He probably wants to go somewhere else. There's no reason for him to turn down a $3 million dollar deal, and there aren't many teams who will gamble with a multi-year deal. Maybe he would rather sign somewhere for potentially cheaper that he thinks he has a shot at a cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NP-4815162342 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Who does he think he is , he's dating Kelly Kelly he's a champ lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I'd take him in a heartbeat, but for not much more than 3 million. I'd happily do 4 if we found a way to get rid of Ballard. Souray is EXACTLY what this team needs - a big, physical shutdown defenceman with a mean streak who can help our PP and most importantly, he's a veteran leader on the blueline which is what our young guys like Bieksa, Edler and Tanev need. These 3 were our worst defenders in the playoffs because we only have 1 true veteran leader in Sami Salo. Look at L.A - Mitchell and Greene's effect on Doughty, Voynov and Martinec is the most underated reason their defence lead them to the Cup. Defence wins championships, we need to fix ours and Souray is just what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Souray is locker room cancer we dont need a goof like this on our team. Has never played a full season (twice played 81 games out of 13 seasons)missing over 350 games in his career. Is a career -41. Has done squat in the playoffs. Not the best skating D man either. After his bionic thumb surgery he had 2 career years netting 64pts with MTL and then 53pts with the coilers and has not really done anything since. If it was the old bionic thumb Souray with his bomb from the point them maayyybeee I would consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapjacks Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 who does he think he is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Maybe he doesn't like playing in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Souray is locker room cancer we dont need a goof like this on our team. Has never played a full season (twice played 81 games out of 13 seasons)missing over 350 games in his career. Is a career -41. Has done squat in the playoffs. Not the best skating D man either. After his bionic thumb surgery he had 2 career years netting 64pts with MTL and then 53pts with the coilers and has not really done anything since. If it was the old bionic thumb Souray with his bomb from the point them maayyybeee I would consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 That's not true. The Rangers scouted him in the minors and they said they wanted to like him but he was capable of playing in the NHL so they didn't make the trade. ...and I wouldn't say he was "jerked around". He bashed the Oilers and requested a trade publically. I'd say that was jerkingh the team around. Tambellini tried to trade him. No one wanted him. They put him on waivers. No one wanted him. They put him on re-entry waivers where any team could have picked him up for half price and not a single team wanted him. They did everything in their power to give him what he wanted...which was a ticket out of Edmonton. He got his wish. ...and I don't know why he thought he was so valuable. In his final season with the Oilers he only managed to play 37 games and he only had 4 goals and 13 points. He was supposed to be a 20 goal/50 point Dman but he was playing at a 9 goal/29 point pace. He also managed to be -19 in those 37 games. He probably would have been close to -40 had he played the entire season. So lets not act like Souray was the victim. He should have kept his mouth shut, had a bounce back year, regained some trade value and then requested a trade behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoSimon Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 That is a slap in the face for a player with such defensive savvy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 For people thinking Souray is being full of himself and rejecting the offer- he will be 36 starting next season. He's looking for an offer to long time offer to retire on. 1 year is not good enough. It's common for 36 year old to want contracts with a couple years on it rather bounce around the league for the next 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 You can understand the wish! But see Thomas, Tim > over 35 UFA signee. If he retires or kacks, the full salary counts against the cap. Long term deals with UFA's are cancer much more than attitudes. Maybe $11 mill for 3 years. $3 mill bonus, $1 mil, $1 mill and $6 mill final term? Nah, could also get injured, and does have a checkered past, not quite ever playing a full season likely wants a longer term, nothing to do with the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksBruins Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Souray faded badly as the season wore on. 1 point in his last 10 games and a -9 in those games. He started the season looking like his old self, but couldn't keep it up. In his first 15 games, 4 goals, 9 assists, and a +11. With his injury history, I wouldn't give him 3 million for what he currently brings to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 yeah he should realize that few teams are going to give money and years. I doubt few GMs would be interested in having him for two years. My guess is he just turned down the best offer he is going to get. If he's still got game which the other above poster pointed out is suspect then he should have the confidence to live with a year by year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Moody Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I love how people always attribute a player's rejection of a deal to money/term. You realize these players have to choose where to move their families? Where to live for the next however many years? What arena to play in 41 games out of the year? The coaching staff they have to deal with, the organization, the players? Maybe Souray didn't like the city, the way the organization treated him or the coaches in place... hmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prngr44 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I can't see anyone giving him a 2-3 year "over 35" contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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