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St.Louis is the PERFECT example of how to build a successful franchise

Legend Killer

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In the new NHL, team success is usually built around youth and pedigree, with ELC's. In order to build a good team, you gotta build through the draft.. when i look at them, and compare them to us.. it shows how poorly we've been managed.

For example, through scouting, and development they are set for awhile.. just look at these examples.

David Backes - 28 years old; $4,500,000 Until 2015-16

TJ Oshie - 26 years old; $4,175,000 until 2016-17. Just entered first season of new contract after his ELC. During his entry level years he combined for 120 points.

David Perron - 24 Years old; just started new contract worth 3,812,500 until 2015-16.

Check out these stats, he's not a superstar, but these are his first 3 season. Right out of the draft.

2007-2008 St. Louis Blues NHL 62gp 13g 14a 27pts

2008-2009 St. Louis Blues NHL 81gp 15g 35a 50pts

2009-2010 St. Louis Blues NHL 82gp 20g 27a 47pts

Consider that, they have a core group of Backes, Oshie, Perron, and then add on to that in your forward core you have Berglund (RFA), Stewart and Tarasenko (2010 draft pick, we traded our first rounder with grabner for Ballard).

Additionally, you can't forget the young d-men in Shattenkirk and Pietrangelo. Both are due pay raises, but these are top d-men in the league. 24, and 23 years old respectively. Plus, Halak isn't old, and Jake Allen is looking like a pure young goalie.

Now that you've read that, i'm gonna sum up our core as it stands right now..

Daniel and Henrik Sedin- 32 years old both combining for 12.2 Million. Money well worth it for the players we're getting, but contracts are coming up. - Our highest picks ever.. but that was in 1999

Ryan Kesler - 28 years old at 5 Million per year.

Booth - We know this story..

Burrows - signed for 4.5 Million a year until he is around 36/37 years old.

That's a combined 25.5 Million. For 5 Players, and that's without touching the Defense.. and goaltending.

Since 2004, our most profitable draft in recent memory giving us Schneider, Edler, and Hansen, we have drafted Grabner (gone), Patrick White (lol), Hodgson (gone), Jordan Schroeder (so far, a work in progress after 3 years still). Recently we have drafted Gaunce and Jensen, who show some promise.. but as far as our future goes.. if you think it's gonna better through a blockbuster move.. you've got another thing coming.

Boston, LA, Chicago and Pittsburgh have proven that teams that go far are built through youth and drafting well.

just food for thought. the future doesn't look that great.

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The Sedins are Art Ross & Hart Trophy Winners

Kesler is a Selke Winner

Burrows earned a fair contract

The Canucks were 1 game away from a Stanley cup and other than this shortened season are 2 time president trophy winners and always considered a top competitive team.

I'd say those accomplishments are all marks of a successful franchise.

Can't argue about Booththough but the Canucks lost nothing to acquire him, so trading him/whatever isn't going to throttle the team

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The Sedins are Art Ross & Hart Trophy Winners

Kesler is a Selke Winner

Burrows earned a fair contract

The Canucks were 1 game away from a Stanley cup and other than this shortened season are 2 time president trophy winners and always considered a top competitive team.

I'd say those accomplishments are all marks of a successful franchise.

Can't argue about Booththough but the Canucks lost nothing to acquire him, so trading him/whatever isn't going to throttle the team

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You're absolutely right. Having impact players with entry level contracts, or bridge contracts before they sign the big deal is key, especially with the cap lowering by something like 10 million next season.

The Canucks will soon find themselves handicapped by large, long term contracts to aging players. Besides Jensen, we have no prospects that are even close to being ready to make an impact at the NHL level.

The fact is that draft picks/prospects are being treated like gold by most NHL GM's, which makes things even more difficult for the Canucks to get any type of foothold at the draft, or to be rich at the farm level.

Once the new "Pacific" division starts up, we will no longer have the luxury of beating up on the Flames, Oilers, Avalanche, and Wild all season.

Like some other folks on here, I can see a decline in the future for the Canucks. But hey, you can't be on top forever, right?

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There's a cycle for every team

Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Edler, Bieksa, Raymond, Hansen, Schneider all drafted by the Canucks.

They are our core and brought us to the cup finals. We haven't had that much of good picks lately. It's normal we are not drafting superstars.

On the other hand St-Louis picked Erik Johnson at #1 in 2006 (traded for Shattekirk and Stewart), in 2008 they picked Pietrangelo at #4 and in 2009 they traded the #9 overall pick to San Jose.

They had three top 10 picks in the last 6-7 years. Normal that the futur looks bright now.

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Yes I forgot about their plethora of Stanley Cups... with all those Banners hanging from their rafters there is no doubt they are PERFECT as the title states.

Just food for thought... that future that doesn't look that bright changes all the time... when the Penguins were going to fold and move did their future look bright? When the Jets left Winnipeg did their future look bright? When Calgary made the Cup final did their future look bright?

This is a dynamic league bud, one year you may be on top and the next in the gutter... Teams are never as good as you think they are nor as terrible as you think they are... with the salary Cap Parity is at an all time high and with the Cap going down you're going to see some players on waivers or bought out or traded for peanuts, next season is going to reshuffle the deck imo... so stop posting your BS doom and gloom... the Canucks still have a team and the Canucks aren't the Calgary Flames... 2 very postive things

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There's a cycle for every team

Sedins, Kesler, Burrows, Edler, Bieksa, Raymond, Hansen, Schneider all drafted by the Canucks.

They are our core and brought us to the cup finals. We haven't had that much of good picks lately. It's normal we are not drafting superstars.

On the other hand St-Louis picked Erik Johnson at #1 in 2006 (traded for Shattekirk and Stewart), in 2008 they picked Pietrangelo at #4 and in 2009 they traded the #9 overall pick to San Jose.

They had three top 10 picks in the last 6-7 years. Normal that the futur looks bright now.

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