shiznak Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Its not Manthha for edler staright up though. Franzen brings negative value to the deal imo. Would be like trading Booth with Horvat but his contract ends sooner How so? Franzen is nearly a point per game player and is a playoff performer. The only thing negative about Franzen is his contract length and his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 When we had Luongo in the shop window, the media insinuated gross underpayments(were in order) & implied the product was faulty(with a dubious warranty!). Eastern propaganda to devalue any asset we were selling. They'd complain about Lu's dependability, term, or even his hairstyle to any who'd listen. Expect more of this for ANY piece we put to market. Certainly AM glad that MG ignores media prior to trades; but they probably prefer Blowhards(HQ insiders) like Burke. We'd best be selling this deadline-and only if the price IS RIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 ^^You didn't answer the question though. Would you trade Horvat for Edler? I'm betting the majority of people on here would say no. Detroit has an aging core too There's no motivation for them to give up their best young prospect. Horvat >>>> Mantha. And yes, I trade Horvat for Edler. The guy is still only 27 years old on a great contract. He will reach his potential by age 30 if he goes to a good system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I don't think we should be trading Edler for anything other than high picks, solid prospects or young talented players (under 26). I'd be disappointed af if we trade Edler for Franzen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I really hope it's not Edler for Franzen straight up... If the Canucks have to take Franzen back for cap reasons but also walk out of the deal with a top prospect, I would do it. Franzen's contract is pretty bad for its length but he's a great power forward when healthy. Anyone else remember when Magnus Arvedsson came to the Canucks and joined the Sedin line? That line was starting to get hot until he suffered what I remember to be a career ending injury. The biggest question about Franzen moving forward is whether he's going to be healthy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 ^^You didn't answer the question though. Would you trade Horvat for Edler? I wouldn't trade Tom Sestito for Edler at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I would do Edler+Hansen for Franzen, Mantha, 1st(2014). Seems fair IMO. Gm's in a playoff spot pay up at the deadline if they want to get that extra push they need to give their teams a better chance to go far in the playoffs. I think Edler= Franzen, Mantha and Hansen=1st Now I dont think Hansen would normally command a first but we've seen comparable players net that amount in the past at the trade deadline. I believe that package as a whole makes it more even because we would be taking Franzen back. Plus I wouldn't mind seeing the mule with Hank, Dank. I think that would be interesting even though he is 34 years old. Mantha and the first would boost up our prospect pool big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 How so? Franzen is nearly a point per game player and is a playoff performer. The only thing negative about Franzen is his contract length and his age. Playoff performer. 10p -9 in 27gp the last 3 postseason. His contract sucks,. Coukd retire after 2016 where he stops making 5 million. Then we are stuck with a recapture penalty. If he is getting injured in the east imagine him vs SJS, LA, ANA, STL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I wouldn't trade Tom Sestito for Edler at this stage. I wouldn't trade Tom Sestito for Phaneuf at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleJack Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Kesler is no way near Toews level He may not be as good as Toews but he is our BEST player and thus If we are going to part with him I would want an over payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Horvat >>>> Mantha. And yes, I trade Horvat for Edler. The guy is still only 27 years old on a great contract. He will reach his potential by age 30 if he goes to a good system. If that's true, why wouldn't the Canucks just improve their system rather than trade a stud D-man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I wouldn't trade Tom Sestito for Phaneuf at this stage. Hardly an apt comparison. Phaneuf is having a career best season, Edler is having a career atrocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 If that's true, why wouldn't the Canucks just improve their system rather than trade a stud D-man? People can't seem to grasp that Edler is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 He may not be as good as Toews but he is our BEST player and thus If we are going to part with him I would want an over payment. How is Kesler our best player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayRayDown Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Hardly an apt comparison. Phaneuf is having a career best season, Edler is having a career atrocity. Career best? Lol plus for 7 million I'd rather have Sestito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 If that's true, why wouldn't the Canucks just improve their system rather than trade a stud D-man? Lol, that's a good one!!! You have to play the cards you are dealt. Right now, the Nucks decided to play their cards by way of bringing in Torts. Right or wrong decision, that's a debate for another day and another thread. Does Edler fit anymore? The answer is no! Not under Torts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Lol, that's a good one!!! You have to play the cards you are dealt. Right now, the Nucks decided to play their cards by way of bringing in Torts. Right or wrong decision, that's a debate for another day and another thread. Does Edler fit anymore? The answer is no! Not under Torts. I don't buy that. So you're saying Torts is the reason why Edler can't put up points on the powerplay? It's not like he just forgot how to shoot the puck. If Del Zotto could thrive under Torts, there's no reason why Edler couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg's Ricin Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'm much more interested in what we could get for Kesler, and who would be interested. Much greater return methinks. And i think Kes would definitely waive to go to a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Hardly an apt comparison. Phaneuf is having a career best season, Edler is having a career atrocity. And he still can't make Canada while Edler goes to Sochi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'm much more interested in what we could get for Kesler, and who would be interested. Much greater return methinks. And i think Kes would definitely waive to go to a contender. Kesler would likely waive for the Wings being from Michigan . Babcock would love to have a guy like Kesler to play behind Datsyuk. That's two former Selke winners in the top 6. Trading him would more likely get Mantha and a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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