baumerman77 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The thing about Ritchie that is a big red flag for me is his weight issue. Yes he is 6.3 but he is almost pushing 240 at 18 and like most of us older posters know is that you dont lose weight as you get older but you actually gain weight. With Ritchie having lots of free time between now and the combine it should give him a chance to turn that fat to muscle and trim off a few pounds but if he shows up with that double chin of his once again I would expect Vancouver scouts to notice and take a pass on him. I am also interested in this. Let's see how he does at the combine. If he performs well in the strength and average in the cardio tests I won't be that concerned but if he does horrible in the cardio and only average at the strength tests then it because a big issue. Considering the guy is a 1995 (and not a 1996) he shouldn't have "baby fat" - already graduated high school last year so he had plenty of time this season to work on his conditioning. If it is poor than it is a big red flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 No he won't. Too skinny. Hard work in the gym and a solid nutrition plan can change that in a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedman Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Nylander is not the guy to bank any kind of positive future on. He's not in the top-5, of which one may fall. And he's not the best beyond the top-5 either. He's below Kapanen, another flash in the pan smallish euro, in terms of skill (see that fancy through the legs goal he scored? wow!), and Nylander simply isn't built for this division, if even the NHL. I don't know how you can get excited about those highlights when it's either perimeter power play passing or floating up the ice waiting for a pass, but yeah, he's good when no competition is around him. Is it reasonable to expect that kind of competition level in the NHL? Nope. He needs to go to a team where the fans are still amused by fancy-looking preseason trash like Sergei Shirokov. I think the majority Canucks fans are done with it. Those kind of players don't win jack unless they're sheltered and carried. His dad was nothing but a perimeter-style powerplay specialist in the NHL until he was on a line with Jagr. We don't have a Jagr. I want nothing to do with that girlie boy being on my team. PASS. If the Canucks pick him up, then the future with Linden in charge is just more of the same crap. That's not good. I guess Marek Malik is more skilled than Nylander too in that case Why ban tsn when we should just ban you? Just a typical Virtanen-fan on CDC with tunnel-vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The difference was that Huberdeau did weigh 170 (it is yet to be seen if that's what Ehlers weighs). More importantly Huberdeau was 6'1.25" whereas Ehlers (subject to change at the combine) is listed at 5'11". Huberdeau was under 170, then at the combine tested at 170, same could easily happen with Ehlers. Ehlers has been listed on some sites as 6'0, so I would be willing to bet come combine time he won't be listed as any less than 5'11.5". And 5'11 really isn't small anyways. Atleast not undersized. The kid is young, he will put on weight. The combine will reveal Ehlers being in the 160's and under 6ft. Even his recent plays show him as noticably smaller than everyone on his team. Huberdeau's shoulder-to-shoulder wasn't a concern like Ehlers'. Ehlers can not 'fill out' as some people suggest. I didn't know you were his personal trainer. Or is it that you have a crystal ball? I've flopped around on my top choice a bunch too haha this thread will get you kinda leaning one way, then you start thinking about a certain players potential and you go, wait a minute maybe we should take this guy instead lol I think I'm pretty firm on Ritchie now. I like the total package he brings. They're all risks but I want to take the Ritchie risk. Ya same, I wouldn't be disappointed with Ritchie, how can you not like the prospect of him and Kassian on a line together, in their prime's, in 5-10 years. But I like Ehlers superstar potential more. So I would prefer him. Wouldn't be unhappy with Ritchie though he's probably my #2 at this point in the game. we did not turn brad Richardson into a full time nhl player. that statement is just ridiculous. Well he wasn't a full time player last year really, we didn't make create him, he had the ability before, but it was more of him being reborn here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksCaptain Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 His dad was nothing but a perimeter-style powerplay specialist in the NHL until he was on a line with Jagr. We don't have a Jagr. I want nothing to do with that girlie boy being on my team. PASS. If the Canucks pick him up, then the future with Linden in charge is just more of the same crap. That's not good. Have you ever seen the kid played? Wow.....stop comparing him to his dad. I can't believe people are making comparisons to his dad. Do they even play with the same style????? Michael Jordan's sons never made it to the NBA and what are Gretzky's sons doing. Gosh sometimes I just don't get people here on this board. Are you the same kind of person as your dad???? You probably think having a baby means you're making a clown of yourself. Dear god..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireGillis Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 You probably think having a baby means you're making a clown of yourself. Dear god..... I don't know about others, but I would never presume my baby to be as funny as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Everyone talks with such certainty when the only guaranteed NHL'er in the top 5-10 is Ritchie, or Perlini/McCann/Tuch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfresh Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Everyone talks with such certainty when the only guaranteed NHL'er in the top 5-10 is Ritchie, or Perlini/McCann/Tuch The irony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Everyone talks with such certainty when the only guaranteed NHL'er in the top 5-10 is Ritchie, or Perlini/McCann/Tuch I can't tell if you're joking or just having a very dumb moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyllenhaal Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Everyone talks with such certainty when the only guaranteed NHL'er in the top 5-10 is Ritchie, or Perlini/McCann/Tuch I want you to read what you typed, then turn off your computer and throw it in the garbage. On Topic: I want us to draft one of Ritchie, Nylander or Ehlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 If we let Ritchie drop to Toronto im going to be choked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Edit: nvm gunna move this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I am also interested in this. Let's see how he does at the combine. If he performs well in the strength and average in the cardio tests I won't be that concerned but if he does horrible in the cardio and only average at the strength tests then it because a big issue. Considering the guy is a 1995 (and not a 1996) he shouldn't have "baby fat" - already graduated high school last year so he had plenty of time this season to work on his conditioning. If it is poor than it is a big red flag. I agree with this.Should be interesting for sure. Do they publish the combine results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 we need talent. not size. we have size and little pure talent in our prospect pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I agree with this.Should be interesting for sure. Do they publish the combine results? Yes they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I want you to read what you typed, then turn off your computer and throw it in the garbage. On Topic: I want us to draft one of Ritchie, Nylander or Ehlers. I want you, to look up sarcasm in the dictionary, then tear the page out, eat it, and post about it on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyllenhaal Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I want you, to look up sarcasm in the dictionary, then tear the page out, eat it, and post about it on the forums. I want you to understand that it is almost impossible to know when someone is being sarcastic on the internet. Especially after reading some of your ludicrous posts. I have a very old dictionary so it didn't taste too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Merci's not wrong. Even if Ritchie can't produce, he'll have a career as an enforcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S N Y P E R S 7 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Who plays League of Legends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Ritchie is an undisciplined penalty and injury-prone 20-goal kinda player who depends too much on his wrist shot. Won't translate to much beyond that in the NHL. Not an elite physical force like Lucic. Not much of an offensive threat beyond basic plays. Inconsistent. Takes too many lazy penalties. Not worth a 6th overall, even in a crap draft such as this. PASS. I came up with the perfect comparison for Nick Ritchie: Guillaume Latendresse. 230lbs big. Injured. Skilled and effective in junior. Banged guys a lot. Didn't drop 'em a lot. Takes a lot of penalties. Good in junior playoffs. Dominated in post-draft junior season, but injured. Came into the bigs and played physical enough, but it didn't translate into good offense or good all-round play. The physical play against men wore him down and since he already had an injury history, his NHL career was brief. Now in the Swiss league at age 26. There is a very high probability that Ritchie will have a similar career path. A team will fall in love with his size and will use him in that role until he sustains a career-impacting injury and then he will be discarded. Latendresse was a 45th overall pick in 2005, a much deeper draft, obviously, as Paul Stastny was picked just before him. And people are considering this at 6th overall? This draft stinks. Bob Mackenzie took 12 pro scouts opinions and compiled a list based on the results. Nick Ritchie was 6th on that list. All these concerns of yours don't seem to align with the findings from the professional scouts that watched him play live countless times. We are considering this at 6th overall because the scouts aren't comparing him to Latendresse, they see great potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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