Ghostsof1915 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 After watching the video clip above I don't get the hype? QMJHL is a different league than the WHL, or OHL. I see a guy who snipes, but he's not much different than Virtanen from what I can see. In fact Virtanen seems to know how to play the physical game better. Reality check: We play in the Western Conference in the NHL. We need players that can make moves to score, without being knocked off the puck. Or worse knocked over like Raymond. If he's truly 162 lbs., he's going to have to bulk up a helluva a lot or work on his core like a fiend. Scoring in the OHL or WHL is a lot harder, because especially in the WHL it's a more physical brand of hockey. Tomas Hertl is 200 lbs. and 6'2". Jamie Benn, 6'2" 200 lbs., Seguin is 6'1" 182 lbs. He could be a Patrick Kane without the attitude. He could be a Grabner as well. That light weight scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE14 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 After watching the video clip above I don't get the hype? QMJHL is a different league than the WHL, or OHL. I see a guy who snipes, but he's not much different than Virtanen from what I can see. In fact Virtanen seems to know how to play the physical game better. Reality check: We play in the Western Conference in the NHL. We need players that can make moves to score, without being knocked off the puck. Or worse knocked over like Raymond. If he's truly 162 lbs., he's going to have to bulk up a helluva a lot or work on his core like a fiend. Scoring in the OHL or WHL is a lot harder, because especially in the WHL it's a more physical brand of hockey. Tomas Hertl is 200 lbs. and 6'2". Jamie Benn, 6'2" 200 lbs., Seguin is 6'1" 182 lbs. He could be a Patrick Kane without the attitude. He could be a Grabner as well. That light weight scares me. In 2-3 years the Pacific division might have changed and by the time these young guys have hit their primes it is bound to have changed. Picking players based off of what other teams have is not the smartest idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 After watching the video clip above I don't get the hype? QMJHL is a different league than the WHL, or OHL. I see a guy who snipes, but he's not much different than Virtanen from what I can see. In fact Virtanen seems to know how to play the physical game better. Reality check: We play in the Western Conference in the NHL. We need players that can make moves to score, without being knocked off the puck. Or worse knocked over like Raymond. If he's truly 162 lbs., he's going to have to bulk up a helluva a lot or work on his core like a fiend. Scoring in the OHL or WHL is a lot harder, because especially in the WHL it's a more physical brand of hockey. Tomas Hertl is 200 lbs. and 6'2". Jamie Benn, 6'2" 200 lbs., Seguin is 6'1" 182 lbs. He could be a Patrick Kane without the attitude. He could be a Grabner as well. That light weight scares me. This is what I see as well. Ehlers has speed, but he's been absolutely rocked on ho-hum hits as well. All scouts say he needs to build strength or he won't make it. His 'too narrow' shoulder-to-shoulder width casts some doubt on his ability to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgraham Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 http://cats2thecup.wordpress.com/2014/04/25/dont-overlook-the-electric-ehlers/ check this out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 This is what I see as well. Ehlers has speed, but he's been absolutely rocked on ho-hum hits as well. All scouts say he needs to build strength or he won't make it. His 'too narrow' shoulder-to-shoulder width casts some doubt on his ability to do so. I think when you have to resort to outright lying to put down prospects you dont like, it says something about the weakness of the candidate you want. Instead of trying to troll the Ehlers supporters, just go make a case for the guy you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 http://cats2thecup.wordpress.com/2014/04/25/dont-overlook-the-electric-ehlers/ check this out This is a good article. I think the reason why Ehlers was overlooked so long is because nobody knew anything about him. He came from Denmark and this is his first year here. He also plays in Halifax. Not exactly conducive to widespread media coverage throughout the hockey belt . Many compare him to MacKinnon and in fact he is slightly faster. I think if Ehlers had been here the year before and everyone got to know his game for two years , he would be in the top 3 with Ekblad and Reinhart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgraham Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 it makes me think its possible he might not be around at 6, i hope he is though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherwise Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Ehlers turned 18 on Feb. 14, so if you wanna get REALLY technical, he's off this list. There's another reason to be concerned about the Ehlers hype when compared to all those guys: He's a winger. The rest of them are centers. Actually Giroux's bday is in Jan and Drouin's bday is in March so I guess by your logic they don't count either? Also Giroux had 3 100 pt seasons in Q before he was old enough for the A then he split a season between the A and the NHL and didn't get to be more than a pt a game guy until he was 23-24 (2011-2012). Plus he was drafted as a RW. I'm curious what you consider "Prime"? I have a feeling that I could make several very good teams based off the scaps that didn't hit their prime until after 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 That article makes it seem like Florida really wants Ehlers and would potentially trade down to draft him, potentially with their favourite trading partner... If we did land the first overall I think we would have to take Bennett, or Ekblad, nothing against Reinhart at all, just think Bennet fits the Canucks future a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgraham Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 it makes me think its possible he might not be around at 6, i hope he is though to quote myself i saw a ranking that had ehlers at 3 recently too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 it makes me think its possible he might not be around at 6, i hope he is though Don't worry..He will be..I think that our pick will come down to Ehlers,Ritchie,Nylander..Those players will go 6,7,8 (maybe not in that order)....I still believe that Nylander is the most skilled,but he also carries the most risk (no defence skills,could pass the puck more,..attitude..?)...Ehlers has at least plays in Canada ,so we have a good idea of what were getting..Caucks need a skill player...Ritchie is the safest pick,..most scouts have him topping out as a 2nd line winger. I just hope the Canuck scouts pick the right guy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I think when you have to resort to outright lying to put down prospects you dont like, it says something about the weakness of the candidate you want. Instead of trying to troll the Ehlers supporters, just go make a case for the guy you want.What are you talking about? He has been destroyed by hits. I think you need to be a bit more objective about the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Don't worry..He will be..I think that our pick will come down to Ehlers,Ritchie,Nylander..Those players will go 6,7,8 (maybe not in that order)....I still believe that Nylander is the most skilled,but he also carries the most risk (no defence skills,could pass the puck more,..attitude..?)...Ehlers has at least plays in Canada ,so we have a good idea of what were getting..Caucks need a skill player...Ritchie is the safest pick,..most scouts have him topping out as a 2nd line winger. I just hope the Canuck scouts pick the right guy.. I am happy with either Ehlers, Nylander or Ritchie. I definitely believe these players will go 6,7,8 . It just depends in what order. I believe Ehlers will have the best career out of the three. Nylander is an amazing talent. If he had played in the CHL this year, I bet he would also be in the top 5 conversation. Ritchie has enormous potential but does not have the elite level speed or skill of the other two. I expect Virtanen to go at #9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeisSahejpal Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 draft Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeisSahejpal Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 draft whoever has the most improving potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Ritchie I could see us building a 4th line around..I always thought that would be Kass but Kass seems destined for a lock on 3rd line (maybe even 2nd line duty). Aiming a little lower than top 6 for a strong 4th line might not be a bad idea for Ritchie..although my preference is a sniper like Virtanen (because I don't see any top 5 dropping down)..if there are intangibles or character that Linden/GM see in Ritchie then sobeit. Kassian is not a lock on the 3rd line. He's just coming around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 to quote myself i saw a ranking that had ehlers at 3 recently too I’m sorry but you’ll have to have a reliable source for a claim like that http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2023308-2014-nhl-mock-draft-likely-landing-spots-for-1st-round-prospects http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/cosentinos-2014-nhl-mock-draft/ http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2014/ http://flamesnation.ca/2014/4/15/2014-nhl-mock-draft-1-0 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2024327-2014-nhl-mock-draft-full-round-1-projections-for-every-team http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=117253 http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=117185 Highest I’ve seen is since the draft order has been complete is seventh by McKenzie and that was right behind Ritchie who was picked 6th I'm not against him/ Ritchie, or Nylander, but is seems like a lot of false claims are being made to support/ discourage each prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 to quote myself i saw a ranking that had ehlers at 3 recently tooHi Snypers7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I’m sorry but you’ll have to have a reliable source for a claim like that http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2023308-2014-nhl-mock-draft-likely-landing-spots-for-1st-round-prospects http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/cosentinos-2014-nhl-mock-draft/ http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2014/ http://flamesnation.ca/2014/4/15/2014-nhl-mock-draft-1-0 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2024327-2014-nhl-mock-draft-full-round-1-projections-for-every-team http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=117253 http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=117185 Highest I’ve seen is since the draft order has been complete is seventh by McKenzie and that was right behind Ritchie who was picked 6th I'm not against him/ Ritchie, or Nylander, but is seems like a lot of false claims are being made to support/ discourage each prospect. The draft rankings are constantly updated. Especially until the memorial cup is over . Tweaks are even made at the combine. The latest draft done was 5 days ago by the hockey writers. http://thehockeywriters.com/2014-nhl-draft-rankings-war-room-april-edition/ Ehlers is now ranked 6th. Ritchie 7th and Nylander 8th I do believe. Its really a toss up . You can throw all three up in the air and draft them in whatever order you want 6-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The draft rankings are constantly updated. Especially until the memorial cup is over . Tweaks are even made at the combine. The latest draft done was 5 days ago by the hockey writers. http://thehockeywriters.com/2014-nhl-draft-rankings-war-room-april-edition/ Ehlers is now ranked 6th. Ritchie 7th and Nylander 8th I do believe. Its really a toss up . You can throw all three up in the air and draft them in whatever order you want 6-8 6th is a long ways from 3rd like Snypers7 said he saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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