DeNiro Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 this was my initial thought as well, but then i considered how i've been feeling recently that horvat's ceiling may not be all that different than gaunce's anyway. so i dont know. Even if it is, we're giving up him plus a decent prospect at number 6. I don't see how Reinhart is worth both of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Even if it is, we're giving up him plus a decent prospect at number 6. I don't see how Reinhart is worth both of those. well, if horvat is "redundant" in the sense that gaunce will fill the same role, then giving him up in addition to the 6th overall, which, if all goes as hoped, will end up a second line player, for a guy who should most likely end up as a good two-way first line center makes some sense. i still dont know if i'd pull the trigger, and i'd definitely rather move a veteran (garrison optimally, and i'd add a 2nd round pick and hansen along with the 6th overall even), but i'd certainly think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Belfort Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 this was my initial thought as well, but then i considered how i've been feeling recently that horvat's ceiling may not be all that different than gaunce's anyway. so i dont know. If they asked for Gaunce and the 6th though it would be a different story. I would pull the trigger immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Horvat and our 6th? Thats a good way for Benning to lose the fans' support and confidence right out of the gate. Ganuce looked way better than Horvat at training camp last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 If it happens prepare for some hurt butts because Horvat is the most amazing player evaaaaaaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 well, if horvat is "redundant" in the sense that gaunce will fill the same role, then giving him up in addition to the 6th overall, which, if all goes as hoped, will end up a second line player, for a guy who should most likely end up as a good two-way first line center makes some sense. Well it's your opinion that Horvat has the same ceiling as Gaunce. It's my opinion that that's not true at all. From what I saw from both players in the OHL playoffs this year, Gaunce looked slow and disinterested. Horvat on the other hand was winning countless draws, making smart plays, and killing penalties. At worst Horvat becomes a good third line checker. At worst for Gaunce, he's a career AHLer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Garrison, Higgins, Gaunce, 2nd. srry but you're not getting the 2nd and the 6th ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 That would be the dumbest thing we could do. Florida gets Horvat and Ehlers and we get Reinhart? Reinhart is good, but not that good. If we get a 2015 2nd from FLA i'd do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 don mentioned it on bmac and taylor this afternoon but i'm not sure the original source. but he said "there are lots of rumors out there" about it. That would absolutely not be worth it. Reinhart-Horvat-Gaunce would be an excellent first 3 centers in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'd do Gaunce and Stanton but trading Horvat just seems like the most foolish move possible. Doesn't make sense to give Buffalo Horvat and possibly Draisaitl or Dal Colle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robongo Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Hard to believe Benning would trade Horvat after he just came out publicly saying how much he liked Horvat. Could be what Florida asked for, but I don't think Benning entertained that for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckster33 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 horvat has a much higher ceiling than gaunce. alot of people here, as usual are crying away because Horvat looked average in the memorial cup, but ignore that he played in the WJC, was very effective there and his memorial cup team was disinterested, so ya he's a bust lol i have contacts in the ohl and they say horvat is the real deal and gaunce will be an effective player but at best a third liner i trust that view more than anyone's here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 horvat has a much higher ceiling than gaunce.alot of people here, as usual are crying away because Horvat looked average in the memorial cup, but ignore that he played in the WJC, was very effective there and his memorial cup team was disinterested, so ya he's a bust loli have contacts in the ohl and they say horvat is the real deal and gaunce will be an effective player but at best a third lineri trust that view more than anyone's here Don't be that guy who says he has inside info because no one is going to believe you unless you have proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Well it's your opinion that Horvat has the same ceiling as Gaunce. It's my opinion that that's not true at all. From what I saw from both players in the OHL playoffs this year, Gaunce looked slow and disinterested. Horvat on the other hand was winning countless draws, making smart plays, and killing penalties. At worst Horvat becomes a good third line checker. At worst for Gaunce, he's a career AHLer. thats all well and good, but the fact is its a lot easier to get horvats than it is reinharts, especially when you're dedicated to making the playoffs every year and drafting in the back third. this team doesnt have any offensive talent of reinhart's caliber in their system, and they most likely wont have the opportunity to draft any in the near future, and they need someone to take over first line duties in 3-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'd probably accept Gaunce & our pick. No to Ho Borvat, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'd do Gaunce and Stanton but trading Horvat just seems like the most foolish move possible. Doesn't make sense to give Buffalo Horvat and possibly Draisaitl or Dal Colle Translation. I'd trade some crappy prospects for a top tier prospect but I draw the line at trading a decent prospect just because I got emotionally attached to him because mahhh team drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I've put this quote in 2 other threads. According to Sportsnet, here's the going price for the 1st or second pick: This is a quote from a third party scout that they've cited: One scout aware of multiple offers for the top two picks said, “The going price to move up into those [first two] spots would be picks — a high first and a second or third — and an established player that helps your top two lines.” The "established player" would also have to be pretty young (early 20's) since they would want him to help the future top 2 lines. Both teams are asking WAY too much for the picks. The Canucks would be better served by going for the Edmonton pick or Calgary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killer Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 there's certain players you need to allow others to be effective. if we traded the farm to get reinhart, and lost tanev and horvat in the process.. we'd end up like edmonton. gaunce would be more likely to be traded than horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'd much rather keep Horvat. Does it have to be one of our young centers? Would Shinkurak or Jensen suffice with the 6th overall to get a top 2 pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Reinhart> horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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