Baggins Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I would waive Sestito, if he gets claimed then Kellan Lain can easily replace him. Does it matter if it's Lain sitting in the press box instead of Sestito? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokejump Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Who are you going to put through waivers to give him his audition? Higgins + Hansen to NYI for Clutterbuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I would waive Sestito, if he gets claimed then Kellan Lain can easily replace him. Or you trade someone if he earns a spot just like Benning said he would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbdoubleu Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I hate the prospect of Nick Bonino being our 2nd line centre, and that's the guy Horvat is going to have to take a spot from to be on the team this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Higgins + Hansen to NYI for Clutterbuck Both have limited ntc's and you think they'd both choose the Islanders? Being from New York Higgins might. But what do we want Clutterbuck for? I'd rather have either Higgins or Hansen. Never mind giving up both for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpoet Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I would say Bo instead of our other top prospects because he seems the most NHL ready of them all. Shinkaruck had an injury filled season, he definitely needs another year of junior to get his groove. Meanwhile, it would be a shock to see Virtanen suit up for us from the start of the season. Ditto for McCann. Jensen is the only other top prospect we have besides Horvat that can come up and make a difference. Gaunce isn't ready either. Shinkaruk has completed 4 years of Junior, and turns 20 in October, meaning if he doesn't make the Canucks, he will be sent down to Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 If Benning's teams are to have skill and speed in the top 6 and size and speed in the bottom 6 and roll 4 lines.... How then do prospects slot in when they are ready? What I'm saying is that would a projected top 6 player like Shinkaruk (smaller size) slot directly into the top 6 or work his way up? And by ready, I mean having learned defensive responsibility and gotten stronger in the AHL. Clearly Horvat is a special case because he won't benefit much if at all from a 4th year in junior. He's big enough to play in the NHL, I hear he's now 220 lbs but is concerned about his speed with the extra weight. Speed, I think was always an issue but players with intelligence can make up for that. Benning at least has made it clear that Horvat has the opportunity. We just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 If Benning's teams are to have skill and speed in the top 6 and size and speed in the bottom 6 and roll 4 lines.... How then do prospects slot in when they are ready? What I'm saying is that would a projected top 6 player like Shinkaruk (smaller size) slot directly into the top 6 or work his way up? And by ready, I mean having learned defensive responsibility and gotten stronger in the AHL. Clearly Horvat is a special case because he won't benefit much if at all from a 4th year in junior. He's big enough to play in the NHL, I hear he's now 220 lbs but is concerned about his speed with the extra weight. Speed, I think was always an issue but players with intelligence can make up for that. Benning at least has made it clear that Horvat has the opportunity. We just have to wait and see. That's a huge misconception IMO. Bo can still develop more in the OHL - for instance, he has yet to dominate the league offensively. There are players who had better 3rd years in junior than Horvat that went back for their 4th, and have benefited from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 He will score 30 and cure cancer No need. Kesler was already traded. He was a cancer, right? That's what we're going with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 No need. Kesler was already traded. He was a cancer, right? That's what we're going with?funny because I was thinking this exact thing last night but refrained from clicking submit in fear of a getting flamed. So good luck BTSN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Not Hunter (too old), but seeing Bo, Jake and Jared would be amazing. Cassels and Demko have a shot at team USA, Cederholm for SWE, and not sure if we have any more. Tryamkin? What about Demko? Either of those guys good/eligible? Subban, long shot maybe . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealCanuckBoss Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I agree with most people thinking that horvat is ready but I don't see a point in rushing him. He's definitely one of our best prospects that being said it wouldn't kill our shot of winning the Stanley cup if he was sent back for another year . It would do him good as well as the future of our team, but really we'll see if he cracks the top 6. I just can wait to see shinkaruk and horvat playing together, they re going to do some real damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musichound Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Canuckler87, on 09 Jul 2014 - 6:08 PM, said: I would say Bo instead of our other top prospects because he seems the most NHL ready of them all. Shinkaruck had an injury filled season, he definitely needs another year of junior to get his groove. Meanwhile, it would be a shock to see Virtanen suit up for us from the start of the season. Ditto for McCann. Jensen is the only other top prospect we have besides Horvat that can come up and make a difference. Gaunce isn't ready either. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Shinkaruk makes the team out of camp. He seems to have that fire and determination that great players usually have. >>> If I'm not mistaken because Hunter Shinkaruk has a late 1994 birthday - he is eligible for the AHL this season. Bo on the other hand is very AHL ready but because he is just 19 - must return to the OHL after 9 games if the Canucks don't want to keep him or burn a year of his entry deal. The idea of him playing (and possibly wearing the C) for Team Canada on home soil seems like a slam dunk if you're Linden/Benning. Maybe on a line with JV??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsuko Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I'm not holding my breath about Bo or any other Canucks prospect, outside of Jensen getting a crack at the lineup. I say that because the philosophy is to roll 4 lines. Line 1 Line 2 Line 3a and line 3b. The current line up as it stands is quite reasonable. I think the kids are going to get a good look and if any of the veterans struggle in the first half of the season they will be moved. Players such as: Burrows, Higgins, Hansen are the likely targets to move up front. I suppose Kassian is a potential move but not sure where the leadership group is with him. Low cost contract however. Cannot move the Sedins. Will not move new acquisitions. I think the Vey, Richardson, Matthias are those meat and potato guys they talk about. They are obviously high on Vey. Matthias is versatile and can play C and W. Richardson has that grit element and winning experience. I think Coach WD can get something out of Burrows and he will have a bounce back season. Up tempo offence should help the team. ….ok I'm rambling now. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsuko Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Canuckler87, on 09 Jul 2014 - 6:08 PM, said: I wouldn't be surprised at all if Shinkaruk makes the team out of camp. He seems to have that fire and determination that great players usually have. >>> If I'm not mistaken because Hunter Shinkaruk has a late 1994 birthday - he is eligible for the AHL this season. Bo on the other hand is very AHL ready but because he is just 19 - must return to the OHL after 9 games if the Canucks don't want to keep him or burn a year of his entry deal. The idea of him playing (and possibly wearing the C) for Team Canada on home soil seems like a slam dunk if you're Linden/Benning. Maybe on a line with JV??? I think Shinkaruk is one of those guys who just finds the back of the net. Doesn't dazzle you but somehow scores. Improved condition and foot speed and he could be something special to watch. Again, unless the old regime players struggle i suspect there won't be much in terms of room for any of the young Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsuko Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I agree with most people thinking that horvat is ready but I don't see a point in rushing him. He's definitely one of our best prospects that being said it wouldn't kill our shot of winning the Stanley cup if he was sent back for another year . It would do him good as well as the future of our team, but really we'll see if he cracks the top 6. I just can wait to see shinkaruk and horvat playing together, they re going to do some real damage one more year and he will be playing top 6 minutes with Bonino and Jensen. ( bonino plays wing too). This will likely be the last year of the good ol boys club. At least at forward. You have to think they need to start looking at Corrado too on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsuko Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I hate the prospect of Nick Bonino being our 2nd line centre, and that's the guy Horvat is going to have to take a spot from to be on the team this season. Bonino plays wing and centre. versatile to provide a spot to Bo. having that ability throw either in the dot is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsuko Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Do you know what waiver eligible means? Or how about the term depth? Bonino outproduced Kesler last year while splitting his time between the 2nd and 3rd line while Kesler split his time between our 1st and 2nd lines. I think you're selling him short. Or maybe you just have an unrealistic view of a second line player. Vey wouldn't clear waivers to go to Utica. It's why LA was trading him. With no spot on the team for him they were faced with losing him for nothing. The same reason we moved Grabner. Vey is guaranteed a spot on the team. We didn't trade a 2nd round pick to put him through waivers and lose him for nothing. Depth doesn't stop with the Canucks roster. Having Shinkaruk and Jensen in Utica gives us quality depth when injuries occur. Patience grasshopper. There's nothing wrong with developing your prospects so they're fully ready to play against men in the big league. Jensen has the best chance of making the team. All he has to do is outperform a veteran to steal his spot. And that's the way it should be. Good comments. I agree. That said, Bonino did play with Getz and Perry often. First PP min too. I don't sell him short. I think he will be a fine #2. If not, Bo will fill that spot in a year or two and Bonino will move to the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsuko Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Jeez so many experts on prospect development here. Crazy that you aren't hired by an NHL team yet... I was made an offer but i didn't like the term . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggs#11 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Bo is definitely good enough to earn one of the 2 extra fwd spots... why would you wanna keep Sanguinetti as the #8 d-man? Bo can play both and wing and can platoon with Vey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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