rbsx86 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Seattle is 15th...Phoenix metro area is 12th. Probably reason why Phoenix/Arizona is still around. Surprised Houston hasn't been given serious consideration. They have an NHL facility and they are fifth largest metro center in the US. Bay area in northern California should be another consideration...11th largest metro area. Uh, where do you think San Jose is? Bay area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbsx86 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Take another look at the census data...San Francisco/Oakland and surrounding area = Bay Area. San Jose/Santa Clara and surrounding area make up Silicon Valley. Two distinct US census regions. Distinct census regions doesn't mean anything. The only "SF" team that plays in SF is the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I have my reservations about Seattle and Quebec City as markets as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 It would help if they had moved the team's location from Sunrise, Florida to a more populated area like Miami but still remain as the Florida Panthers, just like the Islanders are doing or the Senators... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I live in Seattle and there's one thing I know for certain, we love our sports. There is no doubt in my mind a hockey team would flourish here. The interest and potential isn't even a question, it's whether of not Commissioner weasel and his cohorts will relocate instead of expending in the next couple of years. Then get that damn new arena built!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Our Vancouver giants games does better then panthers game. If there a city that Doesent need their nhl team its Florida. Hockey to them is like the 86ers to us. They already have the nba, mlb and nfl. Send the panthers to quebec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks.brad Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 even a 2nd team in vancouver would do better nope it would not. we can't support the giants. contrary to popular belief, Vancouver is a Canucks town rather than a hockey one. Heck right now we can't even fill the Rog.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Take another look at the census data...San Francisco/Oakland and surrounding area = Bay Area. San Jose/Santa Clara and surrounding area make up Silicon Valley. Two distinct US census regions. Have you been there? That's like saying Burnaby is different from Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Have you been there? That's like saying Burnaby is different from Vancouver I have, Stawns. Been to SF on a number of occasions and sister lived in Cupertino, CA (home of Apple and next to San Jose) for 10+ years. SF to SJ is 60 miles, so it's more like Vancouver/Chilliwack. And travel time is about 75-90 minutes depending on traffic. SF/Oakland is at the mouth of the bay and SJ is about 10 miles in land from bottom of the bay. So there's my local geography knowledge. Granted, it's one giant urban/suburban sprawl whether you're traveling S-SE from SF to SJ or directly south from Oakland, the SF-Oakland "region" has a population of around 4.5M while San Jose-Santa Clara "region" has a population of 2M or so and is measured distinctly from each other, which is the data that is used when working out TV contracts. So, there's my local demographics knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I could care less if Quebec gets their team back. What makes me mad is the east as a group are on welfare and the NHL team will be on welfare. If it meant getting a team in Seattle I would reluctantly go along with it. I doubt that happens anyway. NHL is going to Lost Vegas in a play by a major sport to market their team through the Vegas venue. Bettman is smart like a fox. He has nothing to lose even if the franchise located there is a transfer or an expansion team. Wait until they role out a All-Star show there or even better a out door game with the bells and whistles. All the owners will get spin off benefits but mostly their team valuations will take another jump. Florida's attendance might not be great but my understanding is that there are no longer discounted tickets. The fans that are there are paying the full prices which makes the attendance stats better than previous years. Florida has had attendance in the past. Fans there are no dif when they get abused by bad ownership and management. This does not mean I think there should be hockey there. There are better candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 nope it would not. we can't support the giants. contrary to popular belief, Vancouver is a Canucks town rather than a hockey one. Heck right now we can't even fill the Rog.. Contrary to your post Vancouver is a hockey town, especially considering you pulled those facts out of thin air. The Giants are still one of the best attended teams in the dub despite not playing the greatest hockey. And while yes the Rog hasn't sold out 100% this season there are factors beyond "bad fans". If it really were a Canucks town then you'd think the arena would be sold out. Vancouver had the exact same attendance percentage (98.8% capacity) as Calgary as of the writing of this post. So you're saying Calgary isn't a hockey town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_forever Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Then get that damn new arena built!!!!! We were so close a year and a half back! Dammit Sacramento, why do you have to like basketball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Contrary to your post Vancouver is a hockey town, especially considering you pulled those facts out of thin air. The Giants are still one of the best attended teams in the dub despite not playing the greatest hockey. And while yes the Rog hasn't sold out 100% this season there are factors beyond "bad fans". If it really were a Canucks town then you'd think the arena would be sold out. Vancouver had the exact same attendance percentage (98.8% capacity) as Calgary as of the writing of this post. So you're saying Calgary isn't a hockey town? Calgary is a Flames town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 We were so close a year and a half back! Dammit Sacramento, why do you have to like basketball? You can have a hockey team. But we want the Grizz back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 The recipe for building a great new hockey market from the ground up has been created and refined by Nashville. You put money towards creating kids hockey leagues. Those kids and their parents become hockey fans as they learn the game from their own experiences. They then all go and buy tickets to the major league team. Same happened in California, heck now you are actually seeing some of those local products getting drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 The recipe for building a great new hockey market from the ground up has been created and refined by Nashville. You put money towards creating kids hockey leagues. Those kids and their parents become hockey fans as they learn the game from their own experiences. They then all go and buy tickets to the major league team. Same happened in California, heck now you are actually seeing some of those local products getting drafted. Also this helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Then get that damn new arena built!!!!! May 7th. http://murray.seattle.gov/mayor-murray-unveils-next-steps-for-the-arena/#sthash.5bOZWv85.O60hXuQB.dpbs http://www.sonicsrising.com/2015/2/25/8110143/seattle-arena-feis-may-7-ed-murray-nhl-nba http://www.king5.com/story/sports/2015/02/25/mayor-arena-nhl-nba-seattle/24007447/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_forever Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 You can have a hockey team. But we want the Grizz back. For sure. Hate it that they moved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skolozsy2 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 The recipe for building a great new hockey market from the ground up has been created and refined by Nashville. You put money towards creating kids hockey leagues. Those kids and their parents become hockey fans as they learn the game from their own experiences. They then all go and buy tickets to the major league team. Same happened in California, heck now you are actually seeing some of those local products getting drafted. This times 1000! 20 years ago there were no hockey leagues in Tennessee, Texas, California...even Arizona and Florida has youth hockey leagues now. This is how you build a foundation and a fanbase. You will never get a 40 year old man to suddenly start being a hockey fan. You have to start with the youth. If the kids get into hockey, so will the parents. Anybody involved in youth hockey in the US can tell you with certainty that hockey is growing...actualky its not growing, its skyrocketing. And it starts with NHL teams supporting its local youth leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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