deus.ex.makina Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Matthias is likely to get offers closer to $4m this summer... who would be stupid enough to give him 4M ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I think the question might be better posed as Richardson or Matthias. I like Matthias - but he's been somewhat frustrating to watch lately - 1 point in 11 games down the stretch run - but his production is not what frustrates me - for whatever reason he just hasn't seemed to elevate his game, particularly in a physical sense. Some guys are streaky and you have to live with that fact, but it's the skate-by thing that gets to me. Anyhow - he'll be a tough decision. He has some strong qualities and did net 18 this year, but it will be both hard to pay him and hard to let him walk. I think he's likely a guy who will have to make a concession if he wants to stay - I personally can't see offering him more than guys like Higgins and Hansen are making. If I could only re-sign one of Richardson or Matthias, I'd have to take Richardson's overall intensity and his versatility. He's a swiss army knife kind of player, an excellent fit in the group, his 21 points in 45 games was outstanding. and he's far more effective at center. Some tough decisions coming up with the forward group and the goaltending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aGENT Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 who would be stupid enough to give him 4M ? Probably a good few GM's. Big guy in his prime, can play W (or C in a pinch), fast, scored 18 this year. We might be able to retain him for +/- $3.5m but other teams WILL offer more. Your $2-2.5m is a fantasy. And frankly we probably can't afford more than $2.5-$3 which likely won't be enough to retain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deus.ex.makina Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 edit issue again ahhhh my keyboard is possessed ! hum, please delete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 who would be stupid enough to give him 4M ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Keep Higgins, we should've dealt Matthias as the deadline for a 1st. If they could have traded Matthias for a first, they would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 As much as I like both of them, I think if Matthias walks and we can find another asset. He's a great skater and a big body but he doesn't finish checks like he should. I like Higgins' 200ft game more than Matthias' and Higgins has really picked up his game recently while Matthias isn't doing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 It's like they both met on their respective arcs and are now heading in different directions play/intensity speaking. Matthias did produce points but is playing bow his physical potential. That's frustrating. More frustrating would be to see him signed for more money and term. Personally I would like to see both replaced by our youth if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 who would be stupid enough to give him 4M ? Pouliot got 4 mill so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I don't think either Higgins or Mattias is going. I think Richardson is the candidate... he is too injury prone. Higgins is one of the team's best defensive forwards, he is constantly saving us in our zone, taking the puck out of danger. He will be with the Canucks for one more year. Mattias is still an evolving player... with big potential if WD can find the right linemates. But he is not worth too much... will need to sign for 4.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 trade Matthais for a draft pickHe's a ufa after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snucks Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Mathias is a big power forward and has demonstrated his talents but maybe has had his line mates juggled in order to fit Vey in somewhere. Early on this season Mathias showed his strengths but he is not being used right. Canucks should not concentrate on defense because their D is weak. Attacking is what wins games and sitting on leads of one goal is dumb. Remember the team has had the first 1 or 2 goals scored against them before the first period is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 He's a ufa after the season. Still trade his rights for a late pick or as part of a package. Nothing like what we would have got for him at the deadline though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Mattias can be signed now at the going rate... and still traded on draft day. Or he can be kept. Depends on what the plan for next season is... how many of the old guard will be let go and how many kept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snucks Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 After Matthias scores a bunch in the playoffs he will cost a bundle. As I stated before WD may be an OK coach but he hampers some players in order to help the not so good players from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Still trade his rights for a late pick or as part of a package. Nothing like what we would have got for him at the deadline though.Yeah I guess. Depends on if a team really wants him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 As much as I like both of them, I think Matthias can be traded for an asset. He's a great skater and a big body but he doesn't finish checks like he could. I like Higgins' 200ft game more than Matthias' and Higgins has really picked up his game recently while Matthias isn't doing as well. Hmmmm... Reality is an overwhelming force you may encounter someday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Hmmmm... Reality is an overwhelming force you may encounter someday? Care to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Higgins easy for me. I think hes a better player and Matthias will be significantly more expensive. Richardson is likely gone too unless JB moves a contract like Miller, Bieksa or Burrows. Miller is the one that makes the most sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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