Shooting & Explosions in France

[Electro Rock]

I ran into some extremely anti social French speaking North Africans on Kingsway last month. Quebec seems to be the entry point into Canada for this population. 

 

Call it Quebec's little gift to confederation.

Yeah Quebec controls its own immigration and likes to collect entry fees while encouraging many of them to settle outside Quebec, and it goes without saying that they aren't too choosy with the ones they don't plan on keeping.

 

[-DLC-]

Seems like your grandfather wasn't very smart.

Despicable comment ... don't even defend him... Some.... will make it a mission to get under people's skin just for his own amusement. Posters like that should be banned without warning. Terrible.

Your own words....live by them.  That was a very inappropriate comment about someone's deceased family member.  I'd remove it, but would rather have it documented to remind you of what not to do in the future.

[Jaimito]

 This cowardly attack is a direct result of  the anarchy and violence that U.S and its NATO allies are unleashing in the region, Syria directly and Iran and Iraq indirectly.  The relentless push for regime change at any cost and the funding of factions to back this have given rise to Al Queda and ISIL. All the while at home the state uses this as a reason to tighten its security and squash the freedoms and rights of ordinary people. This constant state of Chaos and terror has never benefited interest of ordinary people.

These acts of violence should be condemned by everyone

We Are All France! Though We Are Never All Lebanon or Syria or Iraq!

By David Swanson

14 November, 2015

 

http://www.countercurrents.org/swanson141115.htm

We are all France. Apparently. Though we are never all Lebanon or Syria or Iraq for some reason. Or a long, long list of additional places.

We are led to believe that U.S. wars are not tolerated and cheered because of the color or culture of the people being bombed and occupied. But let a relatively tiny number of people be murdered in a white, Christian, Western-European land, with a pro-war government, and suddenly sympathy is the order of the day.

"This is not just an attack on the French people, it is an attack on human decency and all things that we hold dear," says U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham. I'm not sure I hold ALL the same things dear as the senator, but for the most part I think he's exactly right and that sympathy damn well ought to be the order of the day following a horrific mass killing in France.

I just think the same should apply to everywhere else on earth as well. The majority of deaths in all recent wars are civilian. The majority of civilians are not hard to sympathize with once superficial barriers are overcome. Yet, the U.S. media never seems to declare deaths in Yemen or Pakistan or Palestine to be attacks on our common humanity.

I included "pro-war government" as a qualification above, because I can recall a time, way back in 2003, when I was the one shouting "We are all France," and pro-war advocates in the United States were demonizing France for its refusal to support a looming and guaranteed to be catastrophic and counterproductive U.S. war. France sympathized with U.S. deaths on 911, but counseled sanity, decency, and honesty in response. The U.S. told France to go to hell and renamed french fries in Congressional office buildings.

Now, 14 years into a global war on terror that reliably produces more terror, France is an enthusiastic invader, plunderer, bomber, and propagator of hateful bigotry. France also sells billions of dollars of weaponry to lovely little bastions of equality and liberty like Saudi Arabia, carefully ignoring Saudis' funding of anti-Western terrorist groups.

When U.S. militarism failed to prevent 911, I actually thought that would mean reduced militarism. When a Russian plane was recently blown up, I think I imagined for a split second that Russia would learn its lesson and stop repeating U.S. mistakes. When people were just killed in France, I didn't have any time to fantasize about France coming to its senses, because a "socialist" president was already doing his Dubya-on-the-rubble imitation:

"To all those who have seen these awful things," said François Hollande, "I want to say we are going to lead a war which will be pitiless. Because when terrorists are capable of committing such atrocities they must be certain that they are facing a determined France, a united France, a France that is together and does not let itself be moved, even if today we express infinite sorrow."

The video doesn't look like Bush, and the French word combat does not necessarily mean war just because the Washington Post says it does. It can mean fight in some other sense. But what other sense exactly, I'm not sure. Prosecuting anyone responsible would of course make perfect sense, but a criminal justice system ought not to be pitiless. It's a war that ought to be pitiless. And it's a war that will guarantee more attacks. And it's a war that France has begun.

"It is the job of thinking people, not to be on the side of the executioners," said Albert Camus.

Please go back to thinking, France.

We do love you and wish you well and are deeply sorry for U.S. influence against your better tendencies.

 

[desiboynux4lifee*******]

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-11-13/fathers-split-second-decision-during-bombings-beirut-saved-countless-lives

[nucklehead]

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-11-13/fathers-split-second-decision-during-bombings-beirut-saved-countless-lives

I come from a privileged Francophone community in Lebanon. This has meant that I have always seen France as my second home. The streets of Paris are as familiar to me as the streets of Beirut. I was just in Paris a few days ago.

These have been two horrible nights of violence. The first took the lives of over 40 in Beirut; the second took the lives of over 120 people and counting in Paris.

It also seems clear to me that to the world, my people’s deaths in Beirut do not matter as much as my other people’s deaths in Paris.

We do not get a “safe” button on Facebook. We do not get late-night statements from the most powerful men and women alive and millions of online users.

We do not change policies which will affect the lives of countless innocent refugees.

This could not be clearer.

I say this with no resentment whatsoever, just sadness.

It is a hard thing to realize that for all that was said, for all the progressive rhetoric we have managed to create as a seemingly united human voice, most of us members of this curious species are still excluded from the dominant concerns of the “world.”

And I know that by “world,” I am myself excluding most of the world. Because that’s how power structures work.

I do not matter.

My “body” does not matter to the “world.”

If I die, it will not make a difference.

Again, I say this with no resentment.

That statement is merely a fact. It is a political fact, true, but a fact nonetheless.

Maybe I should have some resentment in me,  but I am too tired. It is a heavy thing to realize.

I know that I am fortunate enough that when I do die, I will be remembered by friends and loved ones. Maybe my blog and an online presence might even gather some thoughts by people around the world. That is the beauty of the Internet. And even that is out of reach to too many.

Never so clearly as now have I understood what Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote about when he spoke of the Black Body in America. I think there is a story to be told of the Arab Body as well. The Native American Body. The Indigenous Body. The Latin American Body. The Indian Body. The Kurdish Body. The Pakistani Body. The Chinese Body. And so many other bodies.

The Human Body is not one. It sure feels that it should be by now. Maybe that in itself is an illusion. But maybe it is an illusion worth preserving because without even that vague aspiration towards oneness on the part of some part of the body, I am not sure what sort of world we would be living in now.

Some bodies are global, but most bodies remain local, regional, “ethnic.”

My thoughts are with all the victims of today’s and yesterday's horrific attacks, and my thoughts are with all those who will suffer serious discrimination as a result of the actions of a few mass murderers and the general failure of humanity’s imagination to see itself as a unified entity.

My only hope is that we can be strong enough to generate the opposite response to what these criminals intended. I want to be optimistic enough to say that we are getting there, wherever “there” might be.

We need to talk about these things. We need to talk about Race. We just have to.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-11-14/streets-paris-are-familiar-me-streets-beirut

[riffraff]

it's so sad that people had to lose their lives in this tragedy. one thing that annoys me about this whole thing right now is social media. everyone wears their cute little eiffel tower peace signs for a day or two, and say the catchy hashtags and phrases to show some solidarity, but it's time to pray for the world, and that all places are beloved. not everyone who believes in islam are psychos

what do u expect?

 

its a Facebook, er, faceless society.

[Alflives]

pedophile: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aishas_Age_of_Consummation

violent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad

how does this marriage make him a pedophile?  Also, Pope Julius II was a military general and conqueror too.  Should we impose our current 21st century philosophies on ancient times?

[Heretic]

it's so sad that people had to lose their lives in this tragedy. one thing that annoys me about this whole thing right now is social media. everyone wears their cute little eiffel tower peace signs for a day or two, and say the catchy hashtags and phrases to show some solidarity, but it's time to pray for the world, and that all places are beloved. not everyone who believes in islam are psychos

So, you would rather everyone just pretend it didn't happen?

I see nothing wrong with showing your support.

Just because I show an Eiffel tower doesn't mean I think everyone who believes in Islam are psychos.

 

 

[desiboynux4lifee*******]

 

 

[Mr.DirtyDangles]

how does this marriage make him a pedophile?  Also, Pope Julius II was a military general and conqueror too.  Should we impose our current 21st century philosophies on ancient times?

You do see the irony here right  ?    The radical Muslims are trying to impose ancient ideals/philosophy in the 21st century.  Mind you I think the radicals are totally being manipulated into believing they can actually succeed.

 

[Heretic]

I see France has engaged:

France's military launched "massive" retaliatory airstrikes against Islamic State sites in Syria on Sunday night, saying French aircraft struck a command center and training camp at Raqqa.

The French Air Force posted videos on its Facebook page of the planes embarking on the raid of the extremist group's de facto capital. The strikes come two days after the worst attacks in Paris since World War II. The Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attacks at six sites that killed 132 people and wounded hundreds more.

The French Defense Ministry said the strikes targeted a command post, a training camp and a weapons depot, dropping 20 bombs on Raqqa. It said 10 fighter jets in the operation came from the United Arab Emirates and Jordan in coordination with U.S. forces.

Speaking in Turkey at the G-20 summit, French Foreign Minister Lauren Fabius said, "France has always said that because she has been threatened and attacked by (Isis) it would be normal that she react in the framework of self defense," The Financial Times reported. "It would be normal to take action. That’s what we did with the strikes on Raqqa, which is their headquarter. We cannot let (Isis) act without reacting.”

A U.S.-led coalition that includes France has been conducting airstrikes against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria since last year.

A group of anti-Islamic State activists in Syria called Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently reported Sunday that at least 30 airstrikes had hit Raqqa "so far."

"No civilians hit so far, the hospitals are reporting. Electricity and water shut down. Panic among the civilians,” the group posted on its website. “Areas hit: Stadium, museum, hospital, government building (municipal).”

“It’s sad how it always falls on our heads. Pray for us,” the group said.

The group was created by 17 Syrian activists in April 2014 to document abuses by the Islamic State after the militant group took over and declared the northern Syrian city of Raqqa to be the caliphate’s capital.

Working anonymously for their safety, members of Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently secretly film and report from within the city and send the information to local and outside news media.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/11/15/paris-terrorist-attacks-airstrikes/75837088/

[Mr.DirtyDangles]

I see France has engaged:

France's military launched "massive" retaliatory airstrikes against Islamic State sites in Syria on Sunday night, saying French aircraft struck a command center and training camp at Raqqa.

The French Air Force posted videos on its Facebook page of the planes embarking on the raid of the extremist group's de facto capital. The strikes come two days after the worst attacks in Paris since World War II. The Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attacks at six sites that killed 132 people and wounded hundreds more.

The French Defense Ministry said the strikes targeted a command post, a training camp and a weapons depot, dropping 20 bombs on Raqqa. It said 10 fighter jets in the operation came from the United Arab Emirates and Jordan in coordination with U.S. forces.

Speaking in Turkey at the G-20 summit, French Foreign Minister Lauren Fabius said, "France has always said that because she has been threatened and attacked by (Isis) it would be normal that she react in the framework of self defense," The Financial Times reported. "It would be normal to take action. That’s what we did with the strikes on Raqqa, which is their headquarter. We cannot let (Isis) act without reacting.”

A U.S.-led coalition that includes France has been conducting airstrikes against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria since last year.

A group of anti-Islamic State activists in Syria called Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently reported Sunday that at least 30 airstrikes had hit Raqqa "so far."

"No civilians hit so far, the hospitals are reporting. Electricity and water shut down. Panic among the civilians,” the group posted on its website. “Areas hit: Stadium, museum, hospital, government building (municipal).”

“It’s sad how it always falls on our heads. Pray for us,” the group said.

The group was created by 17 Syrian activists in April 2014 to document abuses by the Islamic State after the militant group took over and declared the northern Syrian city of Raqqa to be the caliphate’s capital.

Working anonymously for their safety, members of Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently secretly film and report from within the city and send the information to local and outside news media.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/11/15/paris-terrorist-attacks-airstrikes/75837088/

So success in terms of justifying the slaughter of more people. Love it !

[Alflives]

You do see the irony here right  ?    The radical Muslims are trying to impose ancient ideals/philosophy in the 21st century.  Mind you I think the radicals are totally being manipulated into believing they can actually succeed.

 

it's not really irony, when you accept this is me typing this message, and not a radicalized person of any religion or philosophy.  In common vernacular, times were different then.  I do accept your view on manipulation.  Are the leaders of ISIS more motivated by religious or economic pursuits?

[GLASSJAW]

how does this marriage make him a pedophile?  Also, Pope Julius II was a military general and conqueror too.  Should we impose our current 21st century philosophies on ancient times?

if marrying and raping a child is not pedophile enough for you, then i don't know what to say.

nobody cares about Pope Julius II. nobody in 2015 looks at his actions as if they are the model of Christianity. nobody. most catholics don't even abide by the current pope and his interpretation of the bible. I would question if more than a handful even pretend to. a lot of muslims, though, DO take the Quran way too seriously - and a number of them take it literally. and THAT is why it has to be examined and discussed far more critically than Christianity. Christianity has already gone through reformation/s, neuterings, distortions, divisions. it has already gone through its psychotic stage. are you familiar with the dark ages? 

so yes, we should definitely impose our 21st century philosophies on ancient times. why wouldn't we? though many muslims, OBVIOUSLY, thrive in a democracy, Islam itself calls for theocracy - the Quran rejects reformation, it rejects criticism: it is the final word of god, and Muhammad is the man who represents that word. It is stated repeatedly (91 times) that Muhammad is the ideal Muslim. Islam does not support the separation of church and state, because IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BOTH. in order for a muslim to exist in the west, that muslim must reject theocracy, otherwise there will be a conflict. and if they are rejecting theocracy, they are rejecting a fundamental aspect of islam - so what's the deal?

if a Muslim can read the quran stuff and recognize that Muhammad's actions and beliefs are completely out of tune with contemporary western society, then fine who really cares what psychotic stuff someone believes if nobody is getting hurt? But when someone exists in the west by attempting to violate the fundamental rights of other individuals in the west--and yes, that includes women, jews, and homosexuals--then those muslims need to be shown the door, and we can see what happens when they come knocking again. 

[Diamond NHL]

Apparently on Fox they showed pictures of all the states & cities in the USA that isis are already in. Do you guys think that is fake? kind of scary

[Mike Vanderhoek]

Apparently on Fox they showed pictures of all the states & cities in the USA that isis are already in. Do you guys think that is fake? kind of scary

it's Fox lol.....

[Mr.DirtyDangles]

it's not really irony, when you accept this is me typing this message, and not a radicalized person of any religion or philosophy.  In common vernacular, times were different then.  I do accept your view on manipulation.  Are the leaders of ISIS more motivated by religious or economic pursuits?

Well in regards to the manipulation and answer your question at the same time......ISIS(created by the CIA) is not motivated by religion or economic pursuits, they were created to instill fear and horror through terrorist acts to help implement massive sweeping laws in regards to national security and control of the populace.

I am sure ISIS will find some huge silo full of WMD's  left behind by Saddam and use those against the western world sometime soon lol

 

[Alflives]

if marrying and raping a child is not pedophile enough for you, then i don't know what to say.

nobody cares about Pope Julius II. nobody in 2015 looks at his actions as if they are the model of Christianity. nobody. most catholics don't even abide by the current pope and his interpretation of the bible. a lot of muslims, though, DO take the Quran way too seriously - and a number of them take it literally. and THAT is why it has to be examined and discussed far more critically than Christianity. Christianity has already gone through reformation/s, neuterings, distortions, divisions. it has already gone through its psychotic stage. are you familiar with the dark ages? 

so yes, we should definitely impose our 21st century philosophies on ancient times. why wouldn't we? though many muslims, OBVIOUSLY, thrive in a democracy, Islam itself calls for theocracy - the Quran rejects reformation, it rejects criticism: it is the final word of god, and Muhammad is the man who represents that word. It is stated repeatedly (91 times) that Muhammad is the ideal Muslim. Islam does not support the separation of church and state, because IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BOTH. in order for a muslim to exist in the west, that muslim must reject theocracy, otherwise there will be a conflict. and if they are rejecting theocracy, they are rejecting a fundamental aspect of islam - so what's the deal?

if a Muslim can read the quran stuff and recognize that Muhammad's actions and beliefs are completely out of tune with contemporary western society, then fine who really cares what psychotic stuff someone believes if nobody is getting hurt? But when someone exists in the west by attempting to violate the fundamental rights of other individuals in the west--and yes, that includes women, jews, and homosexuals--then those muslims need to be shown the door, and we can see what happens when they come knocking again. 

no we should not judge actions from ancient times by our modern standards.  We purposely burn fossil fuels inside our atmosphere.  Many in our so called modern world purposely breath in toxic gasses, or ingest mind altering chemicals which modern laws (in many countries) deem lawful.  Does this mean 1500 years from now we would be considered guilty of some atrocity that we don't comprehend today?  This is why applying our modern societal laws to ancient times is wrong.  People in those times had no concept of what our laws could be, so judging their actions by our standards is completely unfair.   1500 years from now, much of our behaviour might be considered criminal.  Does this mean we are criminals now, even though we can't even conceptualizer the laws of the future, which we are breaking?  

Of course we today would be calling for any man's neck, who consummated a marriage with a little girl, or charged into battle demanding the heads of those who did not believe as he did.  In those times, 1500 years ago, many societies believed differently than we do now.  

[Canuck_Fan_52]

You're in our prayers France! 

[Alflives]

Well in regards to the manipulation and answer your question at the same time......ISIS(created by the CIA) is not motivated by religion or economic pursuits, they were created to instill fear and horror through terrorist acts to help implement massive sweeping laws in regards to national security and control of the populace.

I am sure ISIS will find some huge silo full of WMD's  left behind by Saddam and use those against the western world sometime soon lol

 

I understand.  You are a conspiracy theorist.  Who built the pyramids?  What about Stone Henge?  Did Abraham, Christ, and Muhammed truly live?