VIC_CITY Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 IMO the best possible contract that we will get DH to sign is 2 years at $4M per. He can get more money and at least 3 years on the open market. Plus, he isn't taking less money than Luca Sbisa, nor should he. I know our D will be a little bit crowded but Hammer is a great team guy and would be an asset to the development of our young defensemen. So I think we need to get this deal done. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Love Hammer, but no. Door #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I'd love to bring Hamhuis back, I've been a huge fan since before he ever came to Vancouver. Two years would be great. No way I'm paying him $4m at this point in his career though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 he did play good after coming off injury , hopefully he can stay healthy and consistent, if he resigns . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Using Sbisa as a benchmark is a bad idea, since everyone (likely including Benning and Sbisa himself) likely know that contract is too high. Benning banked on Sbisa's potential, but appears to have lost. I really like Hamhuis. Class guy and a good mentor. However, I think your assessment is slightly high, as I believe he would be worth about 4m on the open market at best. I know it has only been a single year where his points per game has been quite low, but I think that most GMs will base his worth largely on his last year. For our purposes, do we really need him, even with a discount? An article I read this morning mentioned that we should be focusing on acquiring Russell, but I'm not sure that he'd be any more of an upgrade to Hamhuis, and we need higher end talent.... not more "filler" guys. Here's what we have so far: Edler - 1st pairing for us, though a 2nd pairing on a good team. Hutton - Did very well. Could be anywhere from a 1st pairing to 2nd pairing. Tryamkin - Showed great promise, but a complimentary player. Tanev - 1st pairing, complimentary player. Biega - Depth. Pedan - Could be a decent bottom pairing d-man next season, depending on the offseason. Sbisa - Bottom pairing. Larsen - Who knows when or if he will ever see the Canucks, or where he would place in the depth chart. Really, we have enough guys who can play on the 2nd to 3rd pairing. I'd sooner see us let Hamhuis walk and then go after a UFA like Yandle or Goligoski. Yes, we pay noticeably more but we end up getting a guy who can play in the top pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 "It depends." "Depends on what?" "On many factors." I like Hammer, and think he has a lot to offer the young guys we're sure to have in the lineup next year. His play was near lights out when he returned from injury last season, but he is getting on in age and it would be nice to have both Tryamkin and 1 other fresh face in the lineup next season. Injuries will undoubtedly strike again somewhere, it might not hurt to have him around, but it isn't as simple as should we just sign him. It does depend on what UFA/UFA's JB plans to court, and which of them he can actually sign here. It also depends on how ready he thinks Tryamkin and Larson are regarding making the team out of camp. Bart is probably gone, Weber could be kept as a 7th, that doesn't leave much room for Hammer with Edler, Sbisa, Tanev, and Hutton most likely locks. edit: Forgot Biega, who probably replaces Weber as 7th/depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, nzan said: I'd love to bring Hamhuis back, I've been a huge fan since before he ever came to Vancouver. Two years would be great. No way I'm paying him $4m at this point in his career though. Honestly, $4.0M isn't bad. He plays big minutes, is very good defensively, makes a solid outlet passes under pressure, great mentor for the kids. Personally, I'd rather have Hamhuis than Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Yes, but I don't think 4M is enough there are a lot of teams that will offer more for him. He was the best defense man Vancouver had when he came back from the face injury. He is a defense man not a goal scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 I voted yes. I'd obviously prefer Yandle but I really don't see Benning signing any of the premier UFA dmen this year. Other than Yandle, they're really not that much better than Hamhuis and would warrant significantly more money and term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 who can play his minutes?....edler and tanev log big minutes...i hope they don't go after yandle....or goligoski...i'm sure if benning can find someone to replace hammer, but maybe not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, smithers joe said: who can play his minutes?....edler and tanev log big minutes...i hope they don't go after yandle....or goligoski...i'm sure if benning can find someone to replace hammer, but maybe not this year. Hutton says hi. Different kind of players entirely, but increasing Hutton's minutes is likely going to happen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bur14Kes17 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Frankly the only thing I care about at this point is that we don't sign Kris Russsel. The entire league would see us throw out home town boy Dan out like yesterday's trash in exchange for a lesser player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 I just realized Kris Russell is 5'10 170 LBS. Ewww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I expect they'll wait until after July 1st, ask him to see what's out there, then if there's an offer they don't want to match, he'll move on. I voted no, but if he comes back it has to be a good deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Why can't he take less than Sbisa? Really the only deal that's worth it is something like 3/3.5M per for 3 years. Any more is a big overpayment imo He is solid but he also doesn't bring toughness or a good shot, and he's just going to be more likely to be injured or declining in skills as time marches on. But he is solid with the puck, and would be a good mentor. We had no real takers for him at the trade deadline, and that should tell you something about the market for him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VIC_CITY Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Why can't he take less than Sbisa? Really the only deal that's worth it is something like 3/3.5M per for 3 years. Any more is a big overpayment imo He is solid but he also doesn't bring toughness or a good shot, and he's just going to be more likely to be injured or declining in skills as time marches on. But he is solid with the puck, and would be a good mentor. We had no real takers for him at the trade deadline, and that should tell you something about the market for him as well. You wouldn't do 2 years at $4M per but you'd do 3 years at $3-3.5M? huh? Term is the one thing that we want to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Why can't he take less than Sbisa? Really the only deal that's worth it is something like 3/3.5M per for 3 years. Any more is a big overpayment imo He is solid but he also doesn't bring toughness or a good shot, and he's just going to be more likely to be injured or declining in skills as time marches on. But he is solid with the puck, and would be a good mentor. We had no real takers for him at the trade deadline, and that should tell you something about the market for him as well. the only 2 teams that he would agree to go to at the deadline both wanted him...a proper deal couldn't be worked out...injuries also can dictate the minute munching d-men... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Call me crazy but I think Hamhuis will want another NTC with the Canucks on a short term deal, and 4 million/year is probably being optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Of course you bring him back. He is rock solid on the back end, bleeds blue green and white, and is exactly the type of guy you want working closely with the rookie D we have coming up. Who is going to replace him? No reason whatsoever you don't resign Hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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