Xbox Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Interesting. What he said about the Leafs pursuing Stamkos contradicts most of the reports coming out of Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The 'quality' of speculation I'd expect out of Toronto where the Canucks are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I would pretty much trade any of the forwards taken at #5 in the last 20 years for Faulk. And that includes Kessel and Vanek. Players like this that are in their prime are almost impossible to get. I wonder if Carolina's financial situation is forcing them to throw in the towel and cut salary. Maybe they'd have interest in taking Burrows' contract to get to the salary cap floor. I think they would rather overpay a free agent that could bring more to the table than Burrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, oldnews said: The 'quality' of speculation I'd expect out of Toronto where the Canucks are concerned. There's probably not much to these rumors. However if there's any truth to the rumors about Faulk and Trouba this may be our best chance to get that D-man we need. We're not likely going to be in a better position to acquire a player like that any time soon. I hope Benning is exploring every avenue to get us that young puck mover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, c00kies said: I think they would rather overpay a free agent that could bring more to the table than Burrows The thing with Burrows is his cap hit is 1.5 mil higher than his salary. Could be attractive for a team looking to get to the cap floor while cutting salary. We'd probably have to add a piece like Granlund like Chicago did with Bickell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boddy604 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 This account obviously has multiples. Look up "Karan Thakur" @KTHAKUR20 It's literally the exact same tweets posted at the same time. If you spew out 30 reasonable suggestions every day or so, you're bound to hit on one or two some of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: If Faulk or Trouba actually are available, the Canucks should be dangling their 5th. How good is Trouba? I just know he is young. 5th OA straight up for Trouba? Is he that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: How good is Trouba? I just know he is young. 5th OA straight up for Trouba? Is he that good? He's one of the smoothest skating D-men in the league and can pretty much play in any situation. I would say he's on the verge of becoming an elite defenseman. If he breaks out next year good luck ever acquiring him. That being said I think if the cost is the same Faulk is the guy you go for. He's more of a sure thing and is locked into a great deal. He has also won at every level he's played at. If Carolina is crazy enough to move him, a 5th overall pick would be larceny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: He's one of the smoothest skating D-men in the league and can pretty much play in any situation. I would say he's on the verge of becoming an elite defenseman. If he breaks out next year good luck ever acquiring him. That being said I think if the cost is the same Faulk is the guy you go for. He's more of a sure thing and is locked into a great deal. He has also won at every level he's played at. If Carolina is crazy enough to move him, a 5th overall pick would be larceny. So I guess 5th OA alone isnt enough What about 5th OA + Horvat. Im not saying to trade this. Im just trying to get an idea of what Trouba's trade value is haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, DontMessMe said: So I guess 5th OA alone isnt enough What about 5th OA + Horvat. Im not saying to trade this. Im just trying to get an idea of what Trouba's trade value is haha Well if the Oilers have caught wind he's available they'd likely offer the 4th plus a young player. I don't think we could compete with their offer. I think Carolina would be a better trading partner because of the position they're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boddy604 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, DontMessMe said: So I guess 5th OA alone isnt enough What about 5th OA + Horvat. Im not saying to trade this. Im just trying to get an idea of what Trouba's trade value is haha 5 + Horvat would be an overpayment. 5 + McCann would've been fair but they'd reject it. Reasonably stomachache for both sides would be 5 + Virtanen but Canucks should reject that. Vancouver just doesn't have the assets to even try. Anything they give up to get him just creates another hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 52 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: 5th + Hansen+ Sbisa to CAR for Faulk+ CAR 3rd Tanev+ 2017 1st for Duchenne + 2017 2nd sign Hammer and Ericksson sedin Sedin Ericksson beartschi Duchenne Sutter virtanen Horvat Etem gaunce Granlund Dorsette Denied and denied by both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Stamkos isn't going to Toronto. Also love Boedker and Eriksson but not perron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darinbadershouldamadeit Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 hours ago, The Weasel said: I think there was a rumour that the B's were going after him at the trade deadline as well. I think GMJB could make up for TDL inaction by 1. trading Hamuis' rights for a draft pick 2. sign Hamhuis once free agency opens and leave one less defenceman for another team to have. It's like pool, its not just the shots you make, its the position you leave the table if you happen to miss..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 5 hours ago, b3. said: I want to lock this thread just because it says Boedker/Perron would be our Plan B... And that we're going hard after ERIKSSON and not freaking Steven Stamkos?? Yea right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Gooch Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: I would trade the 5th and other pieces for Trouba or Faulk in a heartbeat. Those two are the type of players we need more than we need Dubois or Tkachuk. With the addition of Gudbranson this team's d is solid. Don't get me wrong I'd love to have Faulk or Trouba aswell but not at the price of our 5th. The Sedins will be gone very soon and the succession plan needs to happen now. You can't get much better of a start than Tkachuk or Dubios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, The-Gooch said: With the addition of Gudbranson this team's d is solid. Don't get me wrong I'd love to have Faulk or Trouba aswell but not at the price of our 5th. The Sedins will be gone very soon and the succession plan needs to happen now. You can't get much better of a start than Tkachuk or Dubios. I just think first line forwards are easier to draft and acquire, and they typically take less time to develop. If you have a chance to acquire a number 1 D-man in his prime that can put up 50 points you do it. They're more valuable than most first line forwards IMO. Not to mention the jury is still out on Dubois. He could be another Jamie Benn, or could end up being closer to a Derick Brassard type player. Faulk on the other hand is not a gamble, the guys a stud. Acquiring him and Gudbranson in the same offseason would pretty much fill out our D-core for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I just think first line forwards are easier to draft and acquire, and they typically take less time to develop. If you have a chance to acquire a number 1 D-man in his prime that can put up 50 points you do it. They're more valuable than most first line forwards IMO. Not to mention the jury is still out on Dubois. He could be another Jamie Benn, or could end up being closer to a Derick Brassard type player. Faulk on the other hand is not a gamble, the guys a stud. Acquiring him and Gudbranson in the same offseason would pretty much fill out our D-core for the future. Has Gudbranson reached his ceiling yet? If not what is he? Top 4? Can he be top 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, DontMessMe said: Has Gudbranson reached his ceiling yet? If not what is he? Top 4? Can he be top 2? I don't think he's reached his ceiling at all. I don't think Florida even tried to explore his ceiling to be honest. They seemed to just put him in a stay at home role because they didn't really have other D-men to eat up those tough D-zone minutes. I would love to see him be given the green light to jump up in the play a bit more. He has a wicked shot that should be utilized more. I could see him being a great number 2 to a more mobile puck mover. I hope the coaches here encourage him to explore is offensive game more because it's not like he doesn't have the tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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