JamesB Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: Yeah because he absolutely dominated the league this year right? I'd rather a player spend an extra year in Junior rather than get tossed in to a pro league when they are not ready, cough cough Jake Virtanen AND Jared McCann. Do you really want to watch that happen again? Plenty of players go back to Junior for their draft +2 season. Strome gets like 3 points a game and he still got sent back for another year of junior. Juolevi does have similarities to Tanev, and unfortunately like Tanev he also takes an absolute beating from opposing forwards in his own end. I'm scared to see what grown men might do to him. When McCann played for us It was always scary watching him take a hit. Good analysis. I am not sure why we keep seeing the opinion that Juolevi has "nothing more to learn in the OHL". He was not among the 5 D's short-listed for the the best defenceman award. His numbers are very similar to last year (actually marginally worse). Yes, this year's team was not as good, but it was still a very good team. And if that is the explanation that just means that last year's numbers were inflated by playing with outstanding teammates. He has a lot to work on that the OHL level, including his skating speed and his shot. And of course he needs to gain strength, which takes time. @The 5th Line is also correct in noting that Juolevi would get pushed around a lot and hit a lot at the NHL level, which can't be a good idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 6 hours ago, guntrix said: Personally, I hope he gets sent to a competitive yet less physical European league where his size will not be as much of a detriment/hazard. More physical is what's best for him; he needs to get accustomed to the NHL game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 15 hours ago, Stelar said: The longer OJ is developing the longer we have to listen to MT comparisons. I want him here next year damn it Cater to the impatient fans and risk his development? That sounds pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: More physical is what's best for him; he needs to get accustomed to the NHL game. But as a lean guy, as young as he is do you think the way the canucks are going to get dominated next year is good for him? 40+ shots against many nights and forechecked all game long is good for him? I dont want him to be like tanev this year, out with injuries or battling through them all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Conscience said: But as a lean guy, as young as he is do you think the way the canucks are going to get dominated next year is good for him? 40+ shots against many nights and forechecked all game long is good for him? I dont want him to be like tanev this year, out with injuries or battling through them all season. No that's not what's best for him. That's also not what's being discussed. Hutton was saying thathat going to a soft euro league instead of returning to the Knights won't help his development. And I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: No that's not what's best for him. That's also not what's being discussed. Hutton was saying thathat going to a soft euro league instead of returning to the Knights won't help his development. And I agree. Well its what I'm discussing, and Wink said he needs to get accustomed to the NHL game, to me thats not OHL and the only way that happens is by playing in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 24 minutes ago, Conscience said: Cater to the impatient fans and risk his development? That sounds pretty stupid. It was sarcasm....... thought the spinning emoji was a giveaway but apparently not. I'm in no hurry for him other than to shut up the dummies...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Conscience said: Well its what I'm discussing, and Wink said he needs to get accustomed to the NHL game, to me thats not OHL and the only way that happens is by playing in the NHL. Why does this need you happen immediately? Let him cook in the minors until he's physically ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I think we need to see how he looks in camp in the fall. There is not much point in arguing right now about what this (extremely smart) teenager will be like half a year from now. Raise your hands everybody who knew half a year before they first put on NHL uniforms that Hutton and Stecher would be able to step right into the NHL the way they did. Or that Poolparty and Dubois wouldn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Is his team playing right now? lol I got the internet I will answer myself... playing at 4pm, will have to follow on internet radio i guess if I can Edited April 4, 2017 by Sugar baby watermelon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 48 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Why does this need you happen immediately? Let him cook in the minors until he's physically ready. Are you even reading what im saying? I think he should stay in the OHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Conscience said: Are you even reading what im saying? I think he should stay in the OHL I thought HW was saying that too. Apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 You guys sure argue a lot for 2 people who actually agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just now, WeneedLumme said: You guys sure argue a lot for 2 people who actually agree. Not arguing just clearing things up. Is that okay? Ddo I have your blessing to do so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just now, 73 Percent said: Not arguing just clearing things up. Is that okay? Ddo I have your blessing to do so? No, you were arguing. Am I allowed to comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: No, you were arguing. Am I allowed to comment? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: No. Then how about if I misread some posts and then start an argument with someone who actually agrees with me. Would that be ok? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Then how about if I misread some posts and then start an argument with someone who actually agrees with me. Would that be ok? Lol. Like exactly what you're doing right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Actually I don't agree with you guys. As I stated, I think it's too early to decide where OJ plays next season. Edited April 4, 2017 by WeneedLumme 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmy Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) I never realized I could feel the emotion of people through a message without emojis. I can just imagine some of you punching those letters in anger and others giggling as they type it lol. I think with Olli it's wait and see mode. Let's see if he can gain some strength and how he looks in camp next year. He's definetly getting the 9 games unless he has a terrible showing in camp and the only way I see that happening is if he has an injury. I think the kid could play next year but am not opposed to another year of waiting if he's physically not ready. Europe would be a great option though if possible. Edited April 4, 2017 by ohmy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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