Beeekz37 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 They seriously need to play the kid. Have him alternate #5 or #6 dman on a rotational basis with Larson. Teams that crash the net, dress Tryamkin. Teams that don't really attack the point on the power play, dress Larson. It's one way for them to see what they are getting out of both, and if changes truly do need to happen to the lineup to keep both around, then so be it. Maybe trade Edler while he looks good? Would hate to tamper too much with the top 4 though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 When you sign a player to a contract that puts control in their hands, don't be surprised if they take control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think with him you already bit the bullet and drew up that contract. You can only keep him in the press box for so long before he gets fed up and goes back to Russia. So your left with 3 options play him, trade him to somewhere that will play him, or let him walk. If they (management) do have faith in his character and commitment (fitness) then they must play him. If there are doubts then it might be prudent to trade him I'm sure with his intangibles and his play last season that there are GM's who would trade an NHL player for him. Letting him walk is the second least attractive right after trading him to a team in our own devision. I as a fan might prefer to see others in that 6 hole (Stetcher) however I think you have to play the big man if he sinks or swims is up to him as he crated this scenario. If he succeeds then we won the lotto. If not send him east or retain his rights and send him alllllllllll the way east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 Tryamkin has to get into the next game. Sbisa needs a time out to think about what he's done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 minute ago, VIC_CITY said: Tryamkin has to get into the next game. Sbisa needs a time out to think about what he's done! Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 6 hours ago, RRypien37 said: Stubborn people are one of my biggest pet peeves. Still going to get paid NHL salary, with the opportunity for top minutes and great development which will only INCREASE his chances to crack the top 6 when he comes back. Yes, and no one is more stubborn than JB on this. I have to disagree I think people forget the geo political situation right now and gloss over the fact that maybe Tryamkin doesn't want to be in the US. I still would argue Tryamkin should be in over Sbisa. Sbisa isn't lighting anyones world on fire right now. Correct me if I'm wrong but Tryamkin was lighting our worlds on fire at the end of last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeekz37 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Shirotashi said: Yes, and no one is more stubborn than JB on this. I have to disagree I think people forget the geo political situation right now and gloss over the fact that maybe Tryamkin doesn't want to be in the US. I still would argue Tryamkin should be in over Sbisa. Sbisa isn't lighting anyones world on fire right now. Correct me if I'm wrong but Tryamkin was lighting our worlds on fire at the end of last season? Perhaps we are silently showcasing Sbisa to make room for Tryamkin? I thought he was pretty solid from what I saw of him last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirotashi Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Beeekz37 said: Perhaps we are silently showcasing Sbisa to make room for Tryamkin? I thought he was pretty solid from what I saw of him last year. I think its safe to say Sbisa has "showcased" by now. I agree he was solid idk where all these critics are coming from, straight up shytting on his physical conditioning, idk I'm guessing he would have been VERY noticeable tonight. Could have been a different game given how he man-handled them last time he played them. Boggles the mind how he wasn't on the bench tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Take aside the egos and nationalities, and even the contract details.......and forgive me I usually would frown on shouting in a forum but THE CANUCKS HAVE A 22 YEAR OLD D STUD 6' 7" 265 LBS IN THEIR STABLE THAT AT THE VERY LEAST DOES NOT HURT YOU ON THE ICE, AND AT BEST CAN NOT ONLY INTIMIDATE KEY PLAYERS ON THE OTHER TEAMS, BUT ALSO INSPIRES THE WHOLE TEAM TOUGHNESS. PLAY HIM! Who cares how he got here, or even if you feel wrangled into it. He has a lot to learn still on playing in the NHL but he's at the right point in development that he's ready to be taught, while still being trusted to do his job clearing the net. He's a gamble but a good one. At least fluctuate between, Sbisa, and Tryamkin, , even Larsen even though he shoots R, depending on the opponent or back to backs. I would hope he plays next game against Ottawa. Another thing is the entertainment factor. I totally enjoyed watching the preseason games Tram played in watching other teams skating so leery around this unknown monster. Its good for a laugh, watching players considered big for the NHL dropping like perogies when they bump into him. And overlooked also is his Chara like reach with that extra long stick. His potential is through the roof. I want to see at least a 20 game tryout. If he holds his own he's a keeper because he can always improve his play as he's still young, especially for a D, but not many can match his size out there. So if management is playing hardball, like they seem to do to all our Russians, and think that trying to hold their breath the longest will be good for business, they are sadly mistaken. If we lose him I'll............probably polish off a bottle of Wodka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, kilgore said: Take aside the egos and nationalities, and even the contract details.......and forgive me I usually would frown on shouting in a forum but THE CANUCKS HAVE A 22 YEAR OLD D STUD 6' 7" 265 LBS IN THEIR STABLE THAT AT THE VERY LEAST DOES NOT HURT YOU ON THE ICE, AND AT BEST CAN NOT ONLY INTIMIDATE KEY PLAYERS ON THE OTHER TEAMS, BUT ALSO INSPIRES THE WHOLE TEAM TOUGHNESS. PLAY HIM! Who cares how he got here, or even if you feel wrangled into it. He has a lot to learn still on playing in the NHL but he's at the right point in development that he's ready to be taught, while still being trusted to do his job clearing the net. He's a gamble but a good one. At least fluctuate between, Sbisa, and Tryamkin, , even Larsen even though he shoots R, depending on the opponent or back to backs. I would hope he plays next game against Ottawa. Another thing is the entertainment factor. I totally enjoyed watching the preseason games Tram played in watching other teams skating so leery around this unknown monster. Its good for a laugh, watching players considered big for the NHL dropping like perogies when they bump into him. And overlooked also is his Chara like reach with that extra long stick. His potential is through the roof. I want to see at least a 20 game tryout. If he holds his own he's a keeper because he can always improve his play as he's still young, especially for a D, but not many can match his size out there. So if management is playing hardball, like they seem to do to all our Russians, and think that trying to hold their breath the longest will be good for business, they are sadly mistaken. If we lose him I'll............probably polish off a bottle of Wodka. Well, I hate to dampen your mood even further but Chicago could use a partner on the third pairing for Forsling. And they have shown in the past a readiness to take on Canucks cast offs. Could there be a fit there, somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Salmonberries said: Well, I hate to dampen your mood even further but Chicago could use a partner on the third pairing for Forsling. And they have shown in the past a readiness to take on Canucks cast offs. Could there be a fit there, somehow... Oh gawd please no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rush17 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 this isn't just a hindsight perspective. but I would of played him at wing tonight if he felt at all interested. I thought he would of drawn into the lineup at some point this weekend. LA and ANA are are pretty big teams. guddy looked like he was battling hard but it seemed every guy he bumped into pushed back and there was a lot of that. Tryamkin could of helped even the field and helped kept them honest. but if there concerned with his cardio or conditioning then I understand the reluctance of playing him tonight at forward. after a strong performance from Larsen last night it makes sense he stays in the lineup. they probably don't want to risk giving him to much freedom in the o zone when he's still mastering the D zone. he's a big dude. 270 pounds ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm not gonna lie. I would have liked to have seen something like this tonight At least play him against teams like the Kings and Anaheim and play Larsson against the Sens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 All those talking about attitude issues etc he has the option in his contract. Why would he NOT use it? JB asked, he said no. No big deal to me. The whole 'Larsen PP specialist' thing doesnt seem to be working out and the Ducks exposed us a lot in the physical department. Get him in and let him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovechkin Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 7 hours ago, CanadianRugby said: Coming in out of shape.. two years in a row. Refusing to go to the minors. Like I said, typical Russian tactics. This post just reeks of your stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bovechkin said: This post just reeks of your stupidity. I read it and laughed. My first thought was 'troll'. However, you may have nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 8 hours ago, WHL rocks said: mine too. Especially when it's so freakin obvious that this is better for everyone involved. He goes down for a few games, I think it's 5 games max or less than 2 weeks..... or something close to that. Gets is shape and gets to play 20 mins a game, earns the same NHL paycheck he does in here sitting in the press box and gets himself ready to be an NHL player. What the freak is wrong with that? It's clearly a pride thing! He must feel that he deserves to either go back home to play top minutes or get another NHL team that will play him every night... if he is not willing to help our team, just let him go back... I'm OK having Pedan and Stetcher as backup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bovechkin Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 6 hours ago, S'all Good Man said: Good, real good. You can't tell me that you haven't run into businesses that run well because of the employees and not the managers. I get the "win now" thing. But Even teams that want to do that have to have something of an eye to the future. If they didn't want to make a place for Tryamkin in the same way as Rodin or Larsen then they should have left him in Russia or traded his rights. It seems like a waste to me to bother to bring him over and not get him some games. Sbisa is fine, but I'm sure we can manage a few nights without him for the sake of developing a really unique, and potentially very dominant D guy. Think of it this way - we can always find another "Sbisa" but guys like Tryamkin - if he can make it- are a much rarer commodity. Excellent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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