kingofsurrey Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Simple question Who was the last forward prospect drafted by the Canucks - developed by the canucks - and now contributing as a forward on our team in the prime of his career ? Who and what year was this forward drafted ? Just curious who you pick ? Do you see this as a problem with our club ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Just now, kingofsurrey said: Simple question Who was the last forward prospect drafted by the Canucks - developed by the canucks - and now contributing as a forward on our team in the prime of his career ? Who and what year was this forward drafted ? Just curious who you pick ? Do you see this as a problem with our club ? Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 If you exclude Gaunce we are talking about Manitoba Moose. Ya, it's that bad. I exclude Horvat and Virtanen because "development" in my eyes is through the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantomex Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The last player drafted and developed (meaning ahl like LaBamba said) on the current team would be Gaunce. Is this a problem? Yes, considering the process the team is going through (getting younger). The problem is we finished so high for so long, along with abysmal drafting and asset management in the past 10 years that we don't have a stockpile of young players coming up. Jim is building that part of the organization now. It's not a pretty process, it's going to take time. Anyone who thinks this should be a quick fix is in for a rude wakeup call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Fantomex said: The last player drafted and developed (meaning ahl like LaBamba said) on the current team would be Gaunce. Tough question. Thread worthy. Last forward drafted / developed and in prime of his career right now..... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Wait a second.....was Gillis not good at drafting and development? Actually, if you assume that going straight to the bigs makes you a better player, then he may have been pretty good: Tanev, Horvat, Hutton, Rodin, and there's Virtanen. But of course, the arbitrary constraint that they must have played in the American league makes almost too much sense. We also have Gaunce (but we'll ignore that for purposes of crying). And Vey is a Utica graduate. So is it just occurring to you that our minor system has been broken for a decade? Way to keep up. Now you've got an open field to whine without perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Last forward drafted / developed and in prime of his career right now..... ??? Great question. Super relevant. Why don't you tell us why Hansen and Edler don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, WhoseTruckWasIt said: Great question. Super relevant. Why don't you tell us why Hansen and Edler don't count. Edler because he isn't a forward.... Hansen was drafted in 2004. So 12 years ago ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Stop listening to Tony Gallagher. The guys a troll. The reason we haven't developed many NHL forwards recently is because we haven't had any and the few we had largely got traded away or are already playing in the NHL (Horvat, Virtanen...though Virt should be in Utica IMO). This isn't a case of 'Oh Noeesss!!! We don't know how to develop!!' It's a case of, we haven't had much to develop. That's certainly it's own problem but it is getting better and has already been beaten to death. AKA, doesn't need another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Edler because he isn't a forward.... Hansen was drafted in 2004. So 12 years ago ...... So...12 years ago....doesn't count for whatever reason. So your point is....let me guess. Is it that the team you wish you knew how to cheer for is actually a steaming pile of Surrey? Is that where you're going with this? Clever guy. Hansen doesn't count. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, J.R. said: Stop listening to Tony Gallagher. The guys a troll. The reason we haven't developed many NHL forwards recently is because we haven't had any and the few we had largely got traded away or are already playing in the NHL (Horvat, Virtanen...though Virt should be in Utica IMO). This isn't a case of 'Oh Noeesss!!! We don't know how to develop!!' It's a case of, we haven't had much to develop. That's certainly it's own problem but it is getting better and has already been beaten to death. Kesler. Doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Brendan Gaunce would be the last player drafted and developed through the AHL to be contributing on the roster. Then Anton Rodin, but he had a few years in the SHL and is still an unknown for NHL production. But after that, the next player to have been drafted and developed by the Canucks to produce in his prime would be Jannik Hansen, then the Sedins. Gaunce (2012) Rodin (2009) Hansen (2004) Sedins (1999) Wowwwww look at that... that's pretty much a decade of bad drafting between the Sedins and Rodin, where at the moment on our team we just have Hansen (and Sutter) to show for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 You know what I just hate with all my heart? THE VANCOUVER CANUCKS!!!!!!! -the king of garbageville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 14 minutes ago, J.R. said: Stop listening to Tony Gallagher. The guys a troll. The reason we haven't developed many NHL forwards recently is because we haven't had any and the few we had largely got traded away or are already playing in the NHL (Horvat, Virtanen...though Virt should be in Utica IMO). This isn't a case of 'Oh Noeesss!!! We don't know how to develop!!' It's a case of, we haven't had much to develop. That's certainly it's own problem but it is getting better and has already been beaten to death. AKA, doesn't need another thread. This is a legitimate concern. If we are talking about full cycle development, draft, full Jr time, then through the AHL and up the lineup it's Gaunce then Hansen. Don't expect this to change too much. We trade away picks that are in that Comet sweet spot in the late 1st - 3rd rounds. Even if we hold onto our picks this year we will likely have a forward hole made to cover holes right now. We iced our worst offence in a decade and drafted William Lockwood as our first forward. Let that soak in. Marinate in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 In 2 years we're going to have several top notch, maybe even one "elite" guy in BB so I'm not worried. It took Toronto and EDM a decade of tanking to get lucky, maybe Winnipeg is the luckiest of them all (although I kind of think the hockey gods gave them Laine for how they were treated by the NHL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoseTruckWasIt Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, LaBamba said: This is a legitimate concern. If we are talking about full cycle development, draft, full Jr time, then through the AHL and up the lineup it's Gaunce then Hansen. Don't expect this to change too much. We trade away picks that are in that Comet sweet spot in the late 1st - 3rd rounds. Even if we hold onto our picks this year we will likely have a forward hole made to cover holes right now. We iced our worst offence in a decade and drafted William Lockwood as our first forward. Let that soak in. Marinate in that. Let's go back in time and rectify. Real hot topic here. Did anyone even know this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: In 2 years we're going to have several top notch, maybe even one "elite" guy in BB so I'm not worried. It took Toronto and EDM a decade of tanking to get lucky, maybe Winnipeg is the luckiest of them all (although I kind of think the hockey gods gave them Laine for how they were treated by the NHL). What is BB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 minute ago, LaBamba said: What is BB? oh dude... http://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/the-prospector-brock-boeser-is-better-than-ever-1.2373685 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorry, did I Sutter? Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 minute ago, LaBamba said: What is BB? I feel like LaBamba will be stuck between a Brock and a hard place with this post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 43 minutes ago, Gooseberries said: Horvat. /end of thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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