[Discussion] Offer Sheet young centers?

[Adarsh Sant]

Teuvo Teravainen(22), Andreas Athanasiou(22), Sam Bennett(20), Mikhail Grigorenko(23) and Melker Karlsson(22) are all set to be RFA's in 2017 and are all young centers.

 

Should we submit offer sheets to any of them in hopes of either landing a young center with potential, or driving up the price for divisional rivals (SJS-Karlsson, CGY-Bennet)?

 

Obviously some of them are going to get bigger raises than others, but they all have potential to be either a 2C or 3C.  And if we don't get any of them, oh well.

 

If we can get any without giving up our 2018 1st as compensation I say we do it.

 

Thoughts?

 

There are other RFA centers of course but I don't think any team will have a chance to offer sheet guys like Draisaitl, Galchenyuk or Kuznetsov, and the compensation will just be too much.

 

[ItsMillerTime]

Kuznetsov we have a chance but would have to give up a 1st rounder and next year with the Dahlin draft coming up idk if its worth it.

[Pears]

Honestly just go for Draisaitl, because one of two things will happen:

 

1) We get him and in turn get our 1-2 punch down the middle for the next decade+

2) Edmonton matches and that contract cripples them

 

Win-win IMO. 

[Angry Goose]

2 minutes ago, Pears said:

Honestly just go for Draisaitl, because one of two things will happen:

 

1) We get him and in turn get our 1-2 punch down the middle for the next decade+

2) Edmonton matches and that contract cripples them

 

Win-win IMO. 

McDavid is great and all but Im hoping his contract just destroys their cap space as well.  

[goalie13]

Attempting to sign other teams' RFAs is probably about the most ineffective way to build a team.  99% of the time the other team will just match, and the only reason that they wouldn't match is because you are so grossly overpaying the RFA that they would rather take the compensation.  It's not even worth going down that road.

 

A better approach would be to trade for a pending RFA.  Generally speaking, as condition of the deal you get the opportunity to talk to the player and/or agent first to see if a deal could get done.  Then you make the trade and sign your player.  It's a lot less messy.

[nuckin_futz]

15 minutes ago, Pears said:

Honestly just go for Draisaitl, because one of two things will happen:

 

1) We get him and in turn get our 1-2 punch down the middle for the next decade+

2) Edmonton matches and that contract cripples them

 

Win-win IMO. 

They would waive Eberle or Nuge long before they let Draisatl walk.

[canuckmen84]

3 hours ago, Adarsh Sant said:

Teuvo Teravainen(22), Andreas Athanasiou(22), Sam Bennett(20), Mikhail Grigorenko(23) and Melker Karlsson(22) are all set to be RFA's in 2017 and are all young centers.

 

Should we submit offer sheets to any of them in hopes of either landing a young center with potential, or driving up the price for divisional rivals (SJS-Karlsson, CGY-Bennet)?

 

Obviously some of them are going to get bigger raises than others, but they all have potential to be either a 2C or 3C.  And if we don't get any of them, oh well.

 

If we can get any without giving up our 2018 1st as compensation I say we do it.

 

Thoughts?

 

There are other RFA centers of course but I don't think any team will have a chance to offer sheet guys like Draisaitl, Galchenyuk or Kuznetsov, and the compensation will just be too much.

 

To snag a RFA from a team using an offer sheet would be huge, but you know what happens after that......?

Horvat gets offer sheeted by that same team!

 

Karma can come back around to bite you in the rear.

[qwijibo]

2 hours ago, Pears said:

Honestly just go for Draisaitl, because one of two things will happen:

 

1) We get him and in turn get our 1-2 punch down the middle for the next decade+

2) Edmonton matches and that contract cripples them

 

Win-win IMO. 

Option number 3. Draisaitl laughs at Vancouver when they approach him about signing an offer sheet. 

 

Seriously. What young up and coming superstar is going to leave a team just hitting its window to sign with one of the worst teams in the league. 

[Pears]

6 minutes ago, qwijibo said:

Option number 3. Draisaitl laughs at Vancouver when they approach him about signing an offer sheet. 

 

Seriously. What young up and coming superstar is going to leave a team just hitting its window to sign with one of the worst teams in the league. 

There's this magical thing called negotiating. Ever heard of it?

[qwijibo]

8 minutes ago, Pears said:

There's this magical thing called negotiating. Ever heard of it?

Sure. But at. the end of the day Vancouver isnt an attractive option for a young superstar right now.  It's going to be a few years before they return to respectability.  He can stay in Edmonton and play along side McDavid and continue to enjoy the taste of success they had this year.  Or he can come languish in the cellar for a few years for potentially a few dollars more.  What would you pick?  I know which way I'd go 

[Ghostsof1915]

6 hours ago, Pears said:

Honestly just go for Draisaitl, because one of two things will happen:

 

1) We get him and in turn get our 1-2 punch down the middle for the next decade+

2) Edmonton matches and that contract cripples them

 

Win-win IMO. 

Then you start a war with Edmonton trying to go after our RFA's. No thanks. 

[canuktravella]

6 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

They would waive Eberle or Nuge long before they let Draisatl walk.

nuge and eberle are awful hockey players  actually  they are to soft to be called hockey players just like hodgson busts  not sure who scouted these two but they should be fired  same goes for whoever gave them 6 mill a yr long term bahaha 

[MJDDawg]

Another CDC'er who has no patience for rebuilding the right way. How do I say this...Short cuts don't work.

 

Go take a look at the recent history of offer sheets in the NHL then tell us why again you think it's easy to simply offer sheet a player.

 

I'll help you. It's because it doesn't work and simply increases the cost of doing business for EVERY team in the league.

 

 

 

 

[timberz21]

10 hours ago, Pears said:

Honestly just go for Draisaitl, because one of two things will happen:

 

1) We get him and in turn get our 1-2 punch down the middle for the next decade+

2) Edmonton matches and that contract cripples them

 

Win-win IMO. 

First Draisaitl needs to accept to sign here, meaning he would leave a team that made huge leap forward and destined for something great in the future to go with a bottom feeder?  After that, if they match, he would need to face his teammates for signing an offer sheet with a rival for the money only.

 

Unless we completely overpays no RFA will want to sign with us and leave their established teams for a bottom feeder.  If they do, then they don't really care about the concept of a team and are selfish, greedy players and we just overpaid for a good player with a sh*tty attitude.

[Pears]

5 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Then you start a war with Edmonton trying to go after our RFA's. No thanks. 

Eh we'll have everyone signed by the time Edmonton wants to try anything like that. They deserve it for screwing us out of Puljujarvi and Hischier. 

[Ghostsof1915]

Just now, Pears said:

Eh we'll have everyone signed by the time Edmonton wants to try anything like that. They deserve it for screwing us out of Puljujarvi and Hischier. 

How many offer sheets have worked in the past 20 years? How many GM's who pulled off the offer sheet kept their jobs long term? Just build the right way. 

I loathe Edmonton, but offer sheets aren't the answer.