Adarsh Sant Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Visp said: I would be very happy! As Sbisa was our most consitant d-man for a large part of the season, he doesn't deserve this. For me, we should have dangled Edler at Vegas to see if they were willing to trade us a pick in order to pick him! Overpaid and regressing imo. #saveluca You serious......a 5th overall pick......TO SAVE LUCA SBISA!?!?!??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visp Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, MikeyBoy44 said: First of all Second, I would actually like to meet you and watch how you go through your day to day routines. Judging by this post it would be a million times more hilarious than any reality show out there. Didn't realize I was being funny but thanks (Ok with the tv show idea though I am a part of UBCP/ACTRA and can't work non union!) I will say again though, would keep Sbisa over Edler any day and twice on Sunday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visp Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Adarsh Sant said: You serious......a 5th overall pick......TO SAVE LUCA SBISA!?!?!??! ? No a 5th ROUND pick... my bad, presumed 5th pick meant 5th ROUND! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 38 minutes ago, Visp said: Didn't realize I was being funny but thanks (Ok with the tv show idea though I am a part of UBCP/ACTRA and can't work non union!) I will say again though, would keep Sbisa over Edler any day and twice on Sunday... Um, no. You said Benning should trade 5th overall to protect Sbisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visp Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, MikeyBoy44 said: Um, no. You said Benning should trade 5th overall to protect Sbisa. Read it as 5th ROUND pick. See above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 It's amazing how teams are grossly overpaying just to keep their core intact. I could see from the Isles perspective why they'd do this. They had a solid draft last year picking up Barzal and Ho Sang so they have quite a haul of young stars there and losing Kulemin and Grabovski in exchange for cap space is solid move. They'll be able to sign players who can make an impact and Bonino and others are in the market and he has Cup experience along with ability to keep the team in contention for a run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Good deal for NYI forcing Vegas to pick Kuleman and trading out Grabovski moves out 9m in cap for 2 UFA to be type players. they protected 5 defenseman already so my guess is they will trade out one of them for forward help. also means vegas doesn't get: de hann, bailey, strome, Nelson, or hickey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerClown Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hard to gauge these trades until they are official. I wouldn't even be that shocked if Islanders tried and land a Mrazek or Grubauer or someone like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 It's not Kulemin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 9 hours ago, Visp said: ? No a 5th ROUND pick... my bad, presumed 5th pick meant 5th ROUND! Ohhhhhhhh ok. That makes much more sense. I agree with you in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 14 hours ago, S'all Good Man said: If he really pulls of this and gets 2-3 other 1st round picks he might end up being my favourite GM. He will never live down Forsberg for Erat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: He will never live down Forsberg for Erat this might make up for that.... well ok maybe not but in fairness Erat fell off the map completely, I don't know who would have seen that coming in such a train wreck way. I guess "win now" mode makes GMs do dumb things like a near complete lack of prospects for years..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 15 hours ago, Warhippy said: lol Anyone remember when the league allowed every other expansion team to do these things. Pepperidge Farms doesn't either McPhee is making out like a bandit. Thank Howe Benning told him to shove it in regards to making a deal to save a player Can't give JB any props for that... there's nothing really worth giving up anything for to protect. 14 hours ago, tas said: 1998: Deals In return for agreeing not to select certain unprotected players, the Predators were granted concessions by other franchises. The trades not involving Nashville draft picks all officially were booked as being for "future considerations": Calgary traded Jim Dowd to Nashville after the Predators agreed not to select a goaltender from the Flames. Chicago traded Sergei Krivokrasov to Nashville after the Predators agreed not to select Chris Terreri. Los Angeles traded Kimmo Timonen and Jan Vopat to Nashville after the Predators agreed not to select Garry Galley. Montreal traded Sebastien Bordeleau to Nashville after the Predators agreed not to select Peter Popovic. Philadelphia traded Dominic Roussel and Jeff Staples to Nashville after the Predators agreed not to select Paul Coffey (Nashville also sent the Flyers a seventh-round pick (Cam Ondrik) in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft). San Jose traded Ville Peltonen to Nashville after the Predators agreed not to select Tony Granato (Nashville also sent the Sharks a fifth-round pick (Josh Blackburn) in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft). St. Louis traded Darren Turcotte to Nashville after the Predators agreed not to select Jamie McLennan. Post-draft Several of the players selected by the Predators in the Expansion Draft did not stay with the team long after the draft. Among those moved before the start of the 1998–99 season were the following: Mike Sullivan (traded to Phoenix for a pick in the 1999 NHL Entry Draft on June 30, 1998) Uwe Krupp (signed by Detroit on July 7, 1998) Tony Hrkac (traded to Dallas for future considerations on July 9, 1998) Doug Brown (traded to Detroit for Petr Sykora, a pick in the 1999 draft, and future considerations on July 14, 1998) Mike Richter (signed by the New York Rangers on July 15, 1998) Frederic Chabot (claimed off waivers by Montreal on July 20, 1998) Mikhail Shtalenkov (traded along with Jim Dowd to Edmonton for Eric Fichaud, Drake Berehowsky and Greg de Vries on October 1, 1998) Al Iafrate (retired before the season began) 1999: Deals In return for agreeing not to select certain unprotected players, the Thrashers were granted concessions by other franchises. The trades were officially booked as being for "future considerations": Ottawa traded Damian Rhodes to Atlanta on June 18, 1999 Buffalo traded Dean Sylvester to Atlanta on June 25, 1999 Calgary traded Andreas Karlsson to Atlanta on June 25, 1999 Detroit traded Ulf Samuelsson to Atlanta on June 25, 1999 New Jersey traded Sergei Vyshedkevich to Atlanta on June 25, 1999 Phoenix traded Scott Langkow to Atlanta on June 25, 1999 Post-draft Several of the players selected by the Thrashers in the Expansion Draft did not stay with the team long after the draft. In fact, the Thrashers traded two players later in the same day: Trevor Kidd (traded to Florida for Gord Murphy, Daniel Tjarnqvist, Herberts Vasiljevs, and a sixth-round pick (Justin Cox) in the 1999 NHL Entry Draft) Peter Ferraro (traded to Boston for Randy Robitaille) Other players who were no longer on the Thrashers' roster at the start of the 1999–2000 season include the following: Phil Crowe (traded to Nashville for future considerations on June 26, 1999) Jamie Pushor (traded to Dallas for Jason Botterill and cash and 7th round draft pick on July 15, 1999) Terry Yake (claimed off waivers by St. Louis on September 30, 1999) Alexei Yegorov (released before the season began) Mark Tinordi (retired before the season began) 2000: Deals In return for agreeing not to select certain unprotected players, the Blue Jackets and Wild were granted concessions by other franchises. The trades not involving Blue Jacket or Wild draft picks were booked as being for "future considerations": Columbus San Jose traded Jan Caloun, a ninth-round pick (Martin Paroulek) in the 2000 NHL Entry Draft, and a conditional pick in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft to Columbus on June 11, 2000, after the Blue Jackets agreed not to select Evgeni Nabokov. Buffalo traded Jean-Luc Grand-Pierre, Matt Davidson, and two fifth-round draft picks, one each in the 2000 (Tyler Kolarik) and 2001 (Andreas Jämtin) Entry Drafts, to Columbus on June 23, 2000, after the Blue Jackets agreed not to select Dominik Hasek or Martin Biron. Minnesota San Jose traded Andy Sutton, a seventh-round pick (Peter Bartoš) in the 2000 Entry Draft and a third-round pick (later traded to Columbus - (Aaron Johnson)) in the 2001 Entry Draft to Minnesota on June 11, 2000, for an eighth-round pick in the 2000 Entry Draft after the Wild agreed not to select Evgeni Nabokov. Post-draft Several of the players selected by the Blue Jackets and Wild in the Expansion Draft did not stay with the teams long after the draft. In fact, several players were traded later in the same day: Columbus Turner Stevenson (traded to New Jersey to complete an earlier transaction) Minnesota Mike Vernon (traded to Calgary for Dan Cavanaugh and an eighth-round pick (Joe Campbell) in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft) Chris Terreri (traded with a ninth-round pick (Thomas Ziegler) in the 2000 NHL Entry Draft to New Jersey for Brad Bombardir) Joe Juneau (traded to Phoenix for Rickard Wallin) Other players who were no longer on the rosters of the teams which drafted them for the 1999–2000 season include the following: Columbus Dallas Drake (signed by St. Louis on July 1, 2000) Mathieu Schneider (signed by Los Angeles on August 13, 2000) Dwayne Roloson (signed with AHL's Worcester IceCats rather than joining Columbus) Minnesota Jeff Odgers (claimed off waivers by Atlanta on September 29, 2000) Man... the quality of players these expansion teams had was brutal compared to the riches Vegas is getting. 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R3aL Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 These guys seem to stick together grabovski and kulemin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 14 hours ago, mll said: It's not that easy re Tavares. He is a UFA in a year and says he will wait before signing an extension. He wants to win and for him to re-sign will depend a lot on the moves NYI makes now. Clearing cap space allows them to pursue some more impactful players now. Signing a big UFA isn't the answer either. The goal is to build a winning team not to please you're one player at the cost of handcuffing your team. This is Tavares 9th season in the NHL, (10 years since being drafted) they've only made the playoffs 3 times since, and have a total of 8 playoff wins. Their trading hasn't been great, trading moulson + 1st + 2nd for 47 games in Vanek comes to mind Watching them let a 26 year okposo walk for nothing only to sign a 30 year old ladd long term is a massive fail, all to save 500k a year? There drafting has to be one of the worst in the NHL, despite being high drafting positions. Dal Colle 5th overall Reinhart 4th overall Strome 5th overall Niederreiter 5th overall There's no one that they should be concerned too much about loosing because they are a bad team. Every team is going to lose a player, It's not like them losing a player is going to set them back in that process. I honestly feel bad for Tavares, if I was him i wouldn't want to play with a such a gong show of an organization, I'd be asking for a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Signing a big UFA isn't the answer either. The goal is to build a winning team not to please you're one player at the cost of handcuffing your team. This is Tavares 9th season in the NHL, (10 years since being drafted) they've only made the playoffs 3 times since, and have a total of 8 playoff wins. Their trading hasn't been great, trading moulson + 1st + 2nd for 47 games in Vanek comes to mind Watching them let a 26 year okposo walk for nothing only to sign a 30 year old ladd long term is a massive fail, all to save 500k a year? There drafting has to be one of the worst in the NHL, despite being high drafting positions. Dal Colle 5th overall Reinhart 4th overall Strome 5th overall Niederreiter 5th overall There's no one that they should be concerned too much about loosing because they are a bad team. Every team is going to lose a player, It's not like them losing a player is going to set them back in that process. I honestly feel bad for Tavares, if I was him i wouldn't want to play with a such a gong show of an organization, I'd be asking for a trade. You're bang on my friend. They should hire Dean Lombardi. Also keep in mind Dal Colle isn't looking like. a great pick, Reinhart looks like a bust and Niederreiter is thriving on another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Sounds like a terrible deal I'd rather just tell them no and draft Nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrek Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 On 6/19/2017 at 7:59 PM, Blue_Jays_Canucks said: What would you guys do if JB traded the fifth pick to LV in exchange for them not picking Sbisa I'm a big Benning fan. If he did that I'd tear that goddamn bastard a new one. That's a career ending move if he did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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