westcoastsniper Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 57 minutes ago, Rindiculous said: There's a TSN article about the calder race basically stating Tkachuk should be leading. This guy brought up a bunch of obscure stats to prove his point. These reporters really need to start watching games, cause as good a Tkachuk is, he definitely does not have the dazzle EP has. Also it fails to mention the most underappreciated stat of them all, chance generation. I really think this should be the true stat we look at in terms of offensive ability. Cause you can take 100 shots from the red line and not score, but you can also set up open one timers for your teammates 10 times and they should score 9 out of 10 times. One's a chance, one isn't. I replied to the writer basically telling him, that Tkachuk's usage basically stems from the fact his #1 linemate is mark stone, who is very good defensively and good offensively as well helping him with points. Nothing to do with Tkachuk as a two-way player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELITE Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 49 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Pettersson can dazzle us until the cows come home, but if he doesn't start racking up the points, he won't win the Calder. I notice he's a very unselfish player, always looking to who he can pass to, to set up a great play, but his line mates don't often finish. I wish he would shoot more. The thing is that EP40 started this season so brilliantly that the expectation is unbelievably high. People think just because he doesn’t do insane goals every night he is not first in line for the Calder. Just look what he does defensively, how can you not just be awed by his game. But hockey journalists from Canada of course want to make a case for Tkachuk, even though he is not on the same level as EP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Pettersson can dazzle us until the cows come home, but if he doesn't start racking up the points, he won't win the Calder. I notice he's a very unselfish player, always looking to who he can pass to, to set up a great play, but his line mates don't often finish. I wish he would shoot more. He will be fine. Nothing to worry about if you look at the plays he has been making and the lack of finish with his line mates. and the travel. The schedule gets a lot easier from here on in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Rindiculous said: There's a TSN article about the calder race basically stating Tkachuk should be leading. This guy brought up a bunch of obscure stats to prove his point. These reporters really need to start watching games, cause as good a Tkachuk is, he definitely does not have the dazzle EP has. Also it fails to mention the most underappreciated stat of them all, chance generation. I really think this should be the true stat we look at in terms of offensive ability. Cause you can take 100 shots from the red line and not score, but you can also set up open one timers for your teammates 10 times and they should score 9 out of 10 times. One's a chance, one isn't. To be honest, I don't care if EP wins Calder or not. Heck, McDavid is a perennial MVP and yet, he didn't win Calder. Bure won it but we didn't get no cup. All that I care about is EP continues his progression and reach his maximum potential and help us get the cup. First (part time) season with Timra 3G 6A in 25GP. Second season, 19G 22A in 43GP. 24G 32A in 44 GP with Växjö. And now PPG pace at the NHL level. EP's development trajectory is insanely crazy. This kid develops various aspects of his game just in one summer's training. I can swear, he wasn't as fast as he is now when I saw him last season. His shot apparently was also not as good as it was now. Wait until he gets stronger, build more strength in his legs. What we are seeing may just be the tip of an iceberg. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 ^ this is true. The Calder is a nice acknowledgment, but it doesn't always go to the best player. Injuries happen, and in the case of Barzal, sometimes the rookie gets to play with a future HoFer. That certainly helps pad the stats. As long as Pettersson's improving, then we can wait for the big prize. Everyone knows how impressive and amazing he is. He will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: ^ this is true. The Calder is a nice acknowledgment, but it doesn't always go to the best player. Injuries happen, and in the case of Barzal, sometimes the rookie gets to play with a future HoFer. That certainly helps pad the stats. As long as Pettersson's improving, then we can wait for the big prize. Everyone knows how impressive and amazing he is. He will be just fine. Not to mention, Ekblad and Huberdeau both won the Calder. Glad to know Florida's not 3rd last in the East as a result. Oh snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Rindiculous said: There's a TSN article about the calder race basically stating Tkachuk should be leading. This guy brought up a bunch of obscure stats to prove his point. These reporters really need to start watching games, cause as good a Tkachuk is, he definitely does not have the dazzle EP has. Also it fails to mention the most underappreciated stat of them all, chance generation. I really think this should be the true stat we look at in terms of offensive ability. Cause you can take 100 shots from the red line and not score, but you can also set up open one timers for your teammates 10 times and they should score 9 out of 10 times. One's a chance, one isn't. Calder usually comes down to the most points win. Reporters are always looking at other angles of stories to get their own stories out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 hours ago, khay said: To be honest, I don't care if EP wins Calder or not. Heck, McDavid is a perennial MVP and yet, he didn't win Calder. Bure won it but we didn't get no cup. All that I care about is EP continues his progression and reach his maximum potential and help us get the cup. First (part time) season with Timra 3G 6A in 25GP. Second season, 19G 22A in 43GP. 24G 32A in 44 GP with Växjö. And now PPG pace at the NHL level. EP's development trajectory is insanely crazy. This kid develops various aspects of his game just in one summer's training. I can swear, he wasn't as fast as he is now when I saw him last season. His shot apparently was also not as good as it was now. Wait until he gets stronger, build more strength in his legs. What we are seeing may just be the tip of an iceberg. I'm in that boat myself and i'm sure EP is as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Dare to dream..... Quinn, Elias, Bo, Brock, Virt and Goldy two to three years from now on this team = AWESOME!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Kootenay Gold said: Dare to dream..... Quinn, Elias, Bo, Brock, Virt and Goldy two to three years from now on this team = AWESOME!! If we are dreaming, might as well be Quinn, Elias, Bo, Brock, Virt, and Jack one to two years from now on this team = CUP! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 Dan Hamhuis on Elias Pettersson: “Every chance I have had, I have tuned into his highlights, it’ll be interesting to play against him for the first time, it’s always different to see a guy on TV and playing against that guy.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Specter Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Always so impressed by Pettersson's work ethics and passion for the game! DekeyPetey working on all facets of his game! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Harvey Specter said: Always so impressed by Pettersson's work ethics and passion for the game! DekeyPetey working on all facets of his game! Maybe that should be Goldobin practicing his pass to EP, for his one-timer. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory40 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 9:28 PM, Westcoasting said: Calder usually comes down to the most points win. Reporters are always looking at other angles of stories to get their own stories out there. Too true! And if you watch the highlight reels Elias would probably have to go stone cold to lose it! I myself figure he is about to get hot again! Finally he has time to practice and that he has been doing! So if Brady and Elias tie how does Elias lose it? He can't. And Brady will go through his cold spell also. PPG Elias is once again on top! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Face Doom Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Bruh, this kid can play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaTikare Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Would be Nice to see EP make a push in this.. Swedish player of the year "guldpucken" is as it Seems now quite a 3-horse-race between Bäckström, Lindholm and Landeskog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastsniper Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 8 hours ago, ForzaTikare said: Would be Nice to see EP make a push in this.. Swedish player of the year "guldpucken" is as it Seems now quite a 3-horse-race between Bäckström, Lindholm and Landeskog Those top 3 have the benefit of playing on stacked lines. Good to see Pettersson not far behind while playing with average players so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted December 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2018 For those who like to hear about what hockey players are like off the rink https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/the-elias-pettersson-you-dont-know-according-to-his-canucks-teammates look at the persona of budding superstar Elias Pettersson, in his own words and those of the players he shares the ice with. Elias Pettersson‘s on-ice personality glowed from the moment he stepped on the ice for his first pre-season game with the Vancouver Canucks. He didn’t score in that mid-September game, but that didn’t matter. He did everything else. He dazzled with puck skills. He stood out as the best player on the ice. And then there was the season opener, where he scored one of the finest goals Vancouver has ever seen. Two months later, the buzz when he collects the puck still picks up. But off the ice, he’s an athlete Vancouver is still getting to know. There are plenty of sports personalities who’ve made their mark on Rain City over the years: the Sedins, Kesler, Naslund, Bertuzzi, Bure, Linden, Passaglia, Buono, Reeves, Sinclair and Nash to name but a few. Pettersson will no doubt join that group one day. And though he finds himself in front of cameras and reporters most days, where there have been moments in which his steely glare has drawn attention, or where a dry joke has cracked up his interlocutors, he mostly remains a quiet soul according to those who have come to know him best. Brock Boeser, still a relatively fresh face in Vancouver himself, is Pettersson’s roommate on the road. He also lives near the 20-year-old centre and sees the young Swede often away from the rink. Elias Pettersson (left) and Brock Boeser are roomates on the road. Jeff Vinnick / Vancouver Canucks “He’s a quiet kid at first,” Boeser said when queried about the young Swede, who is just 17 months younger than the Minnesota native. “I think he’s kind of like me, quiet at first until he gets to know people around him. Then he opens up.” Being roommates means there’s plenty of time to chat on the road. “We’ll talk about the game. We’ve talked about our families, what they do, his friends back home,” Boeser said. “He’s a funny kid, got a dry sense of humour. He’s always in a good mood.” Nikolay Goldobin is another teammate who’s made a connection and is proving to be a regular companion. And while the Russian is three years Pettersson’s senior, that hasn’t been a barrier. The two dressed up as Minions at Halloween, for example. “Both young guys, we like similar things,” Goldobin said about their quick off-ice connection, which in many ways mimics their on-ice chemistry. “And I still feel a little like I’m new to the team too.” “Both Europeans,” he added, suggesting their status as cultural outsiders overlapped. The duo are two of a half-dozen Canucks forwards who hail from outside of North America. In similar terms, Boeser noted, Pettersson also has the “Swedish guys.” Elias Pettersson plays the puck during second period NHL hockey action against the Dallas Stars, in Vancouver on Dec. 1, 2018. BEN NELMS / THE CANADIAN PRESS Veteran teammates Alex Edler and Loui Eriksson, along with goalies Jacob Markstrom and Anders Nilsson all bring a touch of home. Eriksson, who has known Pettersson’s junior teammate Jonathan Dahlen for years, took the two young Swedes out for dinner on the eve of training camp. Dahlen, who played with Pettersson in Timra, is now with the Canucks’ American Hockey League affiliate in Utica. Eriksson remembers his own transition to North American life 13 years ago with the Dallas Stars and figured he should extend to his new young teammates a welcoming hand with a familiar cultural bent. Edler, now the second-eldest player on the squad at 32, thinks back to how the older players on the team helped him along when he was a rookie finding his way in the National Hockey League, a dozen seasons ago. It’s only natural that he’d look to do the same for Pettersson. “He’s a pretty quiet guy, like a lot of Swedes,” Edler said. “You can tell that he’s very serious. He wants to get better. He cares. He wants to learn. He’s a good guy.” Underneath that quiet shell is immense focus, said Edler. “I think like everyone else … he likes to compete, to play in every situation. I think him, and maybe myself too, you might not see it on the outside, but it’s there on the inside.” In conversations with the media, Pettersson will sometimes pause, looking for the word he hopes will best suit his meaning. That’s something he does away from the rink, too. “He asks me about English, sometimes he doesn’t know words,” Boeser said. The team’s other rookie, Adam Gaudette, echoes the “quiet kid” observation. But that doesn’t mean he’s lonely. Gaudette and Pettersson may be among the team’s young players, but there are plenty of others within a year or two in age. And that’s helped Pettersson find moments to lift the lid a touch. “(Having) a lot of young guys in the room makes it easier to connect,” Gaudette said. “Once you get to know (Pettersson) he opens up a little. He’s a funny kid. ” Elias’ Peterson’s dad joined his son on the Canucks’ father-son road trip in October. Jeff Vinnick / Vancouver Canucks Boeser figured some of this quietness is about Pettersson feeling his place in the social hierarchy of a group he just joined. “He’s a super nice kid. I think it’s just his personality, he’s kind of a shy kid,” he said. “(But) also as a young guy, you look to see what the older guys are doing. You don’t want to push any boundaries.” Ben Brown, the team’s director of media relations, has noted that the high standard Pettersson sets for himself extends from the ice into the dressing room and out towards the media and the broader public. “I think he sets a pretty high standard,” he said. “He’s thinking about what he wants to say, before he’s asked a question. For a (teenage rookie) to be aware of that, of the power of what his message is, puts him in a class all his own. “He has a good sense for what others are going through and an ability to relate to that and he doesn’t let that go to his head.” Brown said a conversation the Canucks’ official media team filmed early in the season with Pettersson’s parents, Torbjörn and Irene, still stands out. Irene said her son was “still the same as he (was) before all the fame and all the prizes last year.” Brown noted her pride in her son’s even keel. “I thought that was a pretty powerful thing,” he said. pjohnston@postmedia.com twitter.com/risingaction Q&A with Elias Pettersson Elias Pettersson moved out on his own when he was 15, moving from the small community of Ånge, in northern Sweden, to Timrå, a couple hours east by car on the coast of the Baltic Sea. Ånge, where Pettersson first learned to skate and got plenty of ice time thanks to his dad driving the Zamboni at the local rink, didn’t have a junior team. His first season in Vancouver has been a whirlwind. He made the team out of training camp, but the club has been on the road so much over the first two months of the season, he’s only now getting acquainted with Vancouver. The travel, he was used to that from long bus rides in Sweden. The rest, much of it is new. We sat down with the 20-year-old Swede to find out a little more about who he is off the ice. Elias Pettersson works on his stick on a recent road trip with the Canucks. Jeff Vinnick /Vancouver Canucks Q: What was the first thing you realized that you needed to figure out when you moved into your own place as a teenager? A: The biggest was you had to plan your dinners and what you were eating. Growing up, you could play video games or whatever and then your mother said, “Food is ready,” then you’d go to practice. Now, you’d have to think (about food) before practice. Q: What’s the first thing you learned to cook? A: I think it was chicken in the oven, with steamed rice. Q: Do you have a favourite food now? A: Steak. Q: Do you still play video games? Do you have a favourite? A: Yes. Fortnite. Q: You were living in a hotel during training camp. How about now? A: I live in an apartment now, close to everything, close to teammates too. Q: How does living in Vancouver compare to living in Sweden? A: Biggest city I’ve lived in. I’m starting to learn the city more and more. I like living here, it’s not getting too cold. That’s good. I’m used to it being super cold in the winter. Q: After getting home from practice, what’s the first thing you do? A: Call home, friends and family. Say if I come home at 1 p.m., it’s 10 p.m. at home, so every time I get home, I try to talk to my parents and my friends, because they’re probably going to bed. Q: Every day? A: Yes, every day. Q: What do you talk about with your parents? A: Who I played with in practice. Who I might play with next game. Otherwise, it’s just nice to hear their voices. Talking to my parents, it’s nice. About what’s new for me, new for them. Keeping up to date. Elias Pettersson pulls Blanca (left) and Elle Eriksson around the ice after the Vancouver Canucks Super Skills Contest at Rogers Arena on Dec., 2, 2018. RICHARD LAM / PNG Q: How do you spend your down time? A: Mostly video games and sometimes I go shopping. Hang out with friends, doing the things other (people) do I guess. Having fun. Chilling. Q: Who do you hang out with most? A: Mostly Goldy. I live close to Brock too. And of course the Swedes. 2 5 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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