DonLever Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 From CTV: WASHINGTON -- U.S. President Donald Trump says he doesn't plan to block the scheduled release of thousands of never publicly seen government documents related to President John F. Kennedy's assassination. "Subject to the receipt of further information," he wrote in a Saturday morning tweet, "I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened." The National Archives has until Thursday to disclose the remaining files related to Kennedy's 1963 assassination. The trove is expected to include more than 3,000 documents that have never been seen by the public and more than 30,000 that have been previously released but with redactions. Congress mandated in 1992 that all assassination documents be released within 25 years, but Trump has the power to block them on the grounds that making them public would harm intelligence or military operations, law enforcement or foreign relations. "Thank you. This is the correct decision. Please do not allow exceptions for any agency of government," tweeted Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics and author of a book about Kennedy, who has urged the president to release the files. "JFK files have been hidden too long." The anticipated release has had scholars and armchair detectives buzzing. But it's unlikely the documents will contain any big revelations on a tragedy that has stirred conspiracy theories for decades, Judge John Tunheim told The Associated Press last month. Tunheim was chairman of the independent agency in the 1990s that made public many assassination records and decided how long others could remain secret. Sabato and other JFK scholars believe the trove of files may, however, provide insight into assassin Lee Harvey Oswald's trip to Mexico City weeks before the killing, during which he visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies. Oswald's stated reason for going was to get visas that would allow him to enter Cuba and the Soviet Union, according to the Warren Commission, the investigative body established by President Lyndon B. Johnson, but much about the trip remains unknown. Longtime Trump friend Roger Stone, who wrote a book alleging that Johnson was the driving force behind Kennedy's assassination, had personally urged the president to make the files public, he told far-right conspiracy theorist and radio show host Alex Jones this past week. "Yesterday, I had the opportunity to make the case directly to the president of the United States by phone as to why I believe it is essential that he release the balance of the currently redacted and classified JFK assassination documents," Stone said, adding that "a very good White House source," but not the president, had told him the Central Intelligence Agency, "specifically CIA director Mike Pompeo, has been lobbying the president furiously not to release these documents." "Why? Because I believe they show that Oswald was trained, nurtured and put in place by the Central Intelligence Agency. It sheds very bad light on the deep state," he said. After the president announced his decision, Stone tweeted: "Yes ! victory !" The files that were withheld in full were those the Assassination Records Review Board deemed "not believed relevant," Tunheim said. Its members sought to ensure they weren't hiding any information directly related to Kennedy's assassination, but there may be nuggets of information in the files that they didn't realize were important two decades ago, he said. "There could be some jewels in there because in our level of knowledge in the 1990s is maybe different from today," Tunheim said. The National Archives in July published online more than 440 never-before-seen assassination documents and thousands of others that had been released previously with redactions. Among those documents was a 1975 internal CIA memo that questioned whether Oswald became motivated to kill Kennedy after reading an AP article in a newspaper that quoted Fidel Castro as saying "U.S. leaders would be in danger if they helped in any attempt to do away with leaders of Cuba." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 "Subject to the receipt of further information". I'm not going to hold my breath especially since there are still things that the intelligence community has said that they want to continue to keep secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 If the 90’s board deemed these papers (hopefully to be released now) “not relevant”, then why didn’t they simply release them 25 years ago with the other documents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: If the 90’s board deemed these papers (hopefully to be released now) “not relevant”, then why didn’t they simply release them 25 years ago with the other documents? The intelligence community (CIA, FBI, NSA, etc.) is against the release of all of the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: If the 90’s board deemed these papers (hopefully to be released now) “not relevant”, then why didn’t they simply release them 25 years ago with the other documents? Because in 1992 there were still some people that were alive who either participated or who knew about the cover up. They should be all dead by now but I’m sure the CIA still doesn’t want anything to get out to the public to expose their criminality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Harvey Spector said: Because in 1992 there were still some people that were alive who either participated or who knew about the cover up. They should be all dead by now but I’m sure the CIA still doesn’t want anything to get out to the public to expose their criminality... This is why even if Trump claims that all documents have been released on Thursday that I will have a hard time believing him. Not so much as a cover-up of the killing itself, but because of the shady things that the CIA doesn't want to get released. That and Trump continually lies more than any president has in my lifetime with the possible exception of Nixon (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 More answers and evidence is needed. Sadly it's probably too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: This is why even if Trump claims that all documents have been released on Thursday that I will have a hard time believing him. Not so much as a cover-up of the killing itself, but because of the shady things that the CIA doesn't want to get released. That and Trump continually lies more than any president has in my lifetime with the possible exception of Nixon (so far). Nixon was an enigma. He actually did some very good things like bring the in EPA, ending the draft, China relation and then went off the deep end on paranoia with the tapes. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: Nixon was an enigma. He actually did some very good things like bring the in EPA, ending the draft, China relation and then went off the deep end on paranoia with the tapes. Strange. He wasn't the worst president, but the guy had some serious issues. He had no qualms about lying loudly and often when it suited his purposes. It's been said that many US presidents have been sociopaths of varying degrees but Nixon is often used as an extreme example. It doesn't help his case that he recorded almost everything that he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: He wasn't the worst president, but the guy had some serious issues. He had no qualms about lying loudly and often when it suited his purposes. It's been said that many US presidents have been sociopaths of varying degrees but Nixon is often used as an extreme example. It doesn't help his case that he recorded almost everything that he did. old tapes are amazing. I'm working my way through the Vietnam documentary and the Johnson-McNamara tapes are really something to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: old tapes are amazing. I'm working my way through the Vietnam documentary and the Johnson-McNamara tapes are really something to hear. Read McNamara's books. They're pretty enlightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Not expecting any huge revelations but I'm certainly interested. I blame LBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 & the journo-lady who unearthed the "Panama Papers" just got whacked in Malta. The elite keep their power & influence, by any means necessary. I don't really care about this overhyped crap, seeing what one country has done to a beautiful planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Reported a few weeks ago there is one batch of CIA records on suspected assassin Lee Harvey Oswald has gone missing. Declassified CIA records show that Volume 5 of the file records existed as recently as 1978. The disappearance of the records, discovered by JFK researcher Malcolm Blunt.... These are some of the excerpts from Salon back in early September... This topic was widely covered on the internet, I have no idea if it ever made it to mainstream media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I doubt that these files will have anything in them that admits that the assasination was an inside job that the CIA knew about. If they did, then the public would be morally outraged and never trust these intel agencies again. Sadly they will continue to get away with their corruption and being able to cover all their tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 About time, Good job Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, SabreFan1 said: This is why even if Trump claims that all documents have been released on Thursday that I will have a hard time believing him. Not so much as a cover-up of the killing itself, but because of the shady things that the CIA doesn't want to get released. That and Trump continually lies more than any president has in my lifetime with the possible exception of Nixon (so far). Watch for a false flag terrorist attack to hit the US prior to the release of the documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Harvey Spector said: Watch for a false flag terrorist attack to hit the US prior to the release of the documents. There won't be anything that explosive in those files. Anything big enough to warrant that would have been destroyed decades ago. At most there will be more details on the CIA trying to kill Castro and/or some old ties to organized crime. Nothing that hasn't already been expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rounoush said: There was no federal reserve in the 19th century when Lincoln was alive.... You should fact check your memes instead of blindly believing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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