Noble 6 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 To LAK: Gudbranson Goldobin 3rd Round Pick 2018 To VAN: 1st Round Pick 2018 Jokinen * This deal would be made closer to the trade deadline, assuming L.A. is still doing well. The Kings get Gudbranson; a hard nosed defenseman who would fit in well with their style. He would add a right-handed shot to their D-core that would compliment their existing group pretty well. He would provide grit, leadership and physicality in a top-4ish role for a Playoff run. Depending on how they like the fit, they can decide whether or not to re-sign him as well. Goldobin has been a very good player in the AHL this year and would provide some scoring depth for them in the long run. He could be a cheap winger they could call up that wouldn't break their cap. With Carter and Gaborik coming back from injury at some point, they could have a shot this year if they're young guys, like Kempe, continue to play at a high level. The 3rd is depth for giving up such a high pick. Overall, this move boosts their D-core for a run: Muzzin - Doughty Martinez - Gudbranson Forbert - Folin MacDermid The Canucks gain a 1st rounder in a very deep 1st round. The pick would probably be in the bottom half of the first round, but it would provide more options on draft day. Given how many good defenseman there are in the top-30 this year, we could very well still land a pretty good player. I understand that losing Gudbranson hurts our team toughness, but we can't afford to let him walk for nothing. His contract demands are rumored to be pretty high, too high given his value to the team. We don't need another bloated contract we have to carry around long term. We have enough forward depth to trade Goldobin, and giving up the 3rd doesn't mean much when you're getting a 1st in return. We take back Jokinen's contract to make it work with the cap. This deal is all about adding that extra 1st rounder in a deep draft for the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Do you really think the best we can get for Gudbranson, Goldobin and a 3rd is a low end 1st round pick? A big no on this one for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bllewellyn Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Jokinen has a limited nmc I believe and Van might not be on the list. Vancouver can get more for that package then the late first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bllewellyn said: Jokinen has a limited nmc I believe and Van might not be on the list. Vancouver can get more for that package then the late first. Jokinen's no trade list is only 3 teams and we would be very lucky if Vancouver was one of the three. He may be the only forward in the league that Henrik can out skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 remove gud from that proposal and i'm still not sure that trade provides fair value back to vancouver goldy is on the verge of breaking out professionally i do not see a bottom of the 1st round pick being worth more then him and we simply set back the clock 3 years in terms of development by acquiring a new young player not sure why jokinen would be included in this trade.. we don't want him .. kings just acquired him. . so likely might wish to keep him ? and if we keep gud out of this trade i'm sure he'd bring back a 2nd rounder.. on his own.. at the trade deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Rick Blight said: Do you really think the best we can get for Gudbranson, Goldobin and a 3rd is a low end 1st round pick? A big no on this one for me. it must be a troll. lol. it has to be a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 0/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 That's terrible. I'd rather keep all three of our pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, elvis15 said: That's terrible. I'd rather keep all three of our pieces. they might do goldobin and a 3rd for their 1st. thats more reasonable but even that is overpayment llol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: To LAK: Gudbranson Goldobin 3rd Round Pick 2018 To VAN: 1st Round Pick 2018 Jokinen * This deal would be made closer to the trade deadline, assuming L.A. is still doing well. The Kings get Gudbranson; a hard nosed defenseman who would fit in well with their style. He would add a right-handed shot to their D-core that would compliment their existing group pretty well. He would provide grit, leadership and physicality in a top-4ish role for a Playoff run. Depending on how they like the fit, they can decide whether or not to re-sign him as well. Goldobin has been a very good player in the AHL this year and would provide some scoring depth for them in the long run. He could be a cheap winger they could call up that wouldn't break their cap. With Carter and Gaborik coming back from injury at some point, they could have a shot this year if they're young guys, like Kempe, continue to play at a high level. The 3rd is depth for giving up such a high pick. Overall, this move boosts their D-core for a run: Muzzin - Doughty Martinez - Gudbranson Forbert - Folin MacDermid The Canucks gain a 1st rounder in a very deep 1st round. The pick would probably be in the bottom half of the first round, but it would provide more options on draft day. Given how many good defenseman there are in the top-30 this year, we could very well still land a pretty good player. I understand that losing Gudbranson hurts our team toughness, but we can't afford to let him walk for nothing. His contract demands are rumored to be pretty high, too high given his value to the team. We don't need another bloated contract we have to carry around long term. We have enough forward depth to trade Goldobin, and giving up the 3rd doesn't mean much when you're getting a 1st in return. We take back Jokinen's contract to make it work with the cap. This deal is all about adding that extra 1st rounder in a deep draft for the Canucks. are u kidding me holy f thats a bad proposal no thanks why would we trade goldobin and guddy for a mid to late 1st rounder and a plug vet no thanks i wouldnt even do that trade just for guddy let alone two other good pieces go troll another team. if we dont resign guddy he will be sought after at deadline by a ton of teams. Abd why would we trade a almost nhl ready sniper in goldobin whos on entry level c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeydownUnder Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It's a fair bit of an overpayment for a first. Gud and a 3rd should be enough. It'll be a late 1st and a high 3rd. Kings actually have the cap space to take Gud without sending salary back. I agree get something for Gud instead of letting him walk. He's going to be overpaid on his next contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucklehead73 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 No thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Yeah, I wouldn't do this. I realize that Guddy's value is questionable given his limited abilities and ending contract, and that Goldobin is yet unproven at the NHL level but they are still valuable pieces. We have no use for Jokinen as we already have a glut of forwards, and the 1st round pick is going to be a low one... despite being a deep draft. AND we give up a 3rd? Nah. I also don't really want to give up Goldobin. Though he is learning the finer points of the game in Utica, it is not lost on me that he is over a point a game down there. He will be anywhere from an elite 3rd liner to a first liner in this league. I really think there are extra pieces here that don't need to be. How about just reduce it down to: Guddy to LA 1st to Vancouver I think that's pretty fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Nirvanagut Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 hours ago, Jägermeister said: 0/10. You're being too generous. It's more -1/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Why would we try to trade with LA when Toronto is in more of a need of what we have and had better trading chips then LA Edit: not to mention the deal is terrible for us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 18 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: To LAK: Gudbranson Goldobin 3rd Round Pick 2018 To VAN: 1st Round Pick 2018 Jokinen * This deal would be made closer to the trade deadline, assuming L.A. is still doing well. The Kings get Gudbranson; a hard nosed defenseman who would fit in well with their style. He would add a right-handed shot to their D-core that would compliment their existing group pretty well. He would provide grit, leadership and physicality in a top-4ish role for a Playoff run. Depending on how they like the fit, they can decide whether or not to re-sign him as well. Goldobin has been a very good player in the AHL this year and would provide some scoring depth for them in the long run. He could be a cheap winger they could call up that wouldn't break their cap. With Carter and Gaborik coming back from injury at some point, they could have a shot this year if they're young guys, like Kempe, continue to play at a high level. The 3rd is depth for giving up such a high pick. Overall, this move boosts their D-core for a run: Muzzin - Doughty Martinez - Gudbranson Forbert - Folin MacDermid The Canucks gain a 1st rounder in a very deep 1st round. The pick would probably be in the bottom half of the first round, but it would provide more options on draft day. Given how many good defenseman there are in the top-30 this year, we could very well still land a pretty good player. I understand that losing Gudbranson hurts our team toughness, but we can't afford to let him walk for nothing. His contract demands are rumored to be pretty high, too high given his value to the team. We don't need another bloated contract we have to carry around long term. We have enough forward depth to trade Goldobin, and giving up the 3rd doesn't mean much when you're getting a 1st in return. We take back Jokinen's contract to make it work with the cap. This deal is all about adding that extra 1st rounder in a deep draft for the Canucks. If I am Benning, I will not do this trade. We need Goddy, also Goldobin in our re-building. It seems the proposal is in the view of LAK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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