TNucks1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Losing With Pride said: Maybe Edmonton would trade Pool Party for him? Rangers are probably thinking "Man, we got the wrong Swede in that draft!" think the rangers wanted EP that draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 5:32 PM, Ossi Vaananen said: The thing with Madden is he just can't add weight. The dude is still playing at 155, which is where we drafted him. He'll get murdered in the NHL playing at that weight, especially since he likes to muck it up infront of the net. I've long thought he could be moved for a deadline piece. With a young core, we can be picky with our prospects, right up until we have to start paying said core, then ELCs will be gold. As for Andersson, I'd be fine with a cap dump or some Utica depth going the other way. Lias isn't worth more than that now, as he's struggling to find the NA game. I'd say save our picks, we need them; JB has added a 2nd far too many times for my comfort. I'm not worried about weight of a 20 year old at all. People physically mature at different ages, I have worked with numerous athletes that have started putting on mass well into their 20s. I myself, even after always being fit, wasn't able to start putting on any real muscle mass until about 26 or 27. Now at 30 the real problem is keeping it off... it's different for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, TNucks1 said: think the rangers wanted EP that draft. Rumour has it the canucks were trying to trade down a spot to gain an extra pick #6 OA. They felt they could still get petey there, then it was heard that the rangers tried moving ahead of vancouver to get Petey but couldn't find any dance partners at the draft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 11:06 AM, kenhodgejr said: To NYR - Sven Baertchi, Chris Tanev, Olli Juolevi To Van - Lias Anderson, Anthony Deangelo How about Juolevi for Andersson straight up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: No it isn't. Not even close. Please enlighten me here.... we have a $3M+ depreciating asset in Baertschi that nobody cared to pick up via the waivers and is currently rotting down in the AHL.... in Lias Andersson, there's a potential upside + a lot cheaper in cap hit... Baertschi's cap hit carries through the next 2 seasons and you don't think it's a fair deal if we can find a taker that would pay a good portion of his salary + sending us Andersson? Are you trolling or you think the world out of Baertschi's current value? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, theo5789 said: Were you here two years after we drafted Jake? Half of CDC would've taken a bag of pucks for him and subsequently dismantled the entire management team as well. Fortunately the "crazytown insane lunatic fringe" doesn't run this franchise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, GhostsOf1994 said: Rumour has it the canucks were trying to trade down a spot to gain an extra pick #6 OA. They felt they could still get petey there, then it was heard that the rangers tried moving ahead of vancouver to get Petey but couldn't find any dance partners at the draft. Worked out well. Hearing that makes me wonder if Canuck Luck is slowly turning. I mean, it would really have been our old luck to have missed out on Petey and draft Andersson instead. Then have him toss a medal, walk out on his club. Just sounds like a story that was made for us, lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckFather Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Put Lias with Elias on the same line and I promise you his game will be resurrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Virtanen#18 said: Please enlighten me here.... we have a $3M+ depreciating asset in Baertschi that nobody cared to pick up via the waivers and is currently rotting down in the AHL.... in Lias Andersson, there's a potential upside + a lot cheaper in cap hit... Baertschi's cap hit carries through the next 2 seasons and you don't think it's a fair deal if we can find a taker that would pay a good portion of his salary + sending us Andersson? Are you trolling or you think the world out of Baertschi's current value? Wooooossshhhhhhhh! That was the sound of my reply going quickly over your head. Baer is worth nothing. Andersson is worth a lot more as he is a recent 7th overall pick. No one wants Baer, hence, you cannot trade him for Andersson. Good god man..... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) On 12/23/2019 at 2:38 PM, Brock Botanen said: How about Juolevi for Andersson straight up? Probably a fair trade. I wouldn't do it though. Canucks seriously lack young up and coming D depth. OJ is still a question mark but he should stay with the organization till the question is answered. Edited December 27, 2019 by rekker 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Rangers fans proposed the following on hf: Keppen + Eliot + Madden for Andersson Haha....that would be a pathetic trade for the Canucks. I would not even trade Madden straight up for Andersson..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Rangers fans proposed the following on hf: Keppen + Eliot + Madden for Andersson Haha....that would be a pathetic trade for the Canucks. I would not even trade Madden straight up for Andersson..... I'd consider Madden only based on the whole free agent, college rule thing. If JB gets the feeling Madden won't sign here then best trade him, just spitballing though. Otherwise I agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 2:51 PM, Tystick said: His value is low. Kid's worth a shot IMO. I'm not sure how low some people think his value is, but he was a 7th overall pick 2 years ago. The Rangers aren't going to give him away for scraps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I'm not sure how low some people think his value is, but he was a 7th overall pick 2 years ago. The Rangers aren't going to give him away for scraps. HoSang was a first rounder, later but still a first. He was just on waivers, has had more success in the NHL then Andersson, and no one claimed him. I think Anderssons value is real low. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, rekker said: HoSang was a first rounder, later but still a first. He was just on waivers, has had more success in the NHL then Andersson, and no one claimed him. I think Anderssons value is real low. Hmm, perhaps you're right, could he be a player the Canucks take a chance on? I've heard he's had good chemistry with Pettersson in Sweden. My worry would be his entitled attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, rekker said: Probably a fair trade. I I wouldn't do it though. Canucks seriously lack young up and coming D depth. OJ is still a question mark but he should stay with the organization till the question is answered. I like Juolevi also, but a duo of Pettersson and Andersson is intriguing to say the least. With Hughes and Tryamkin we have 2 very solid defenceman and we also have Woo, Brisebois, Rafferty, and other fine young Dmen coming up. Juolevi wont give us a boost this year and Andersson could come in and have instant chemistry. Just imagine this lineup.. (Tryamkin should be back for playoffs) Virtanen Pettersson Andersson Miller Horvat Boeser Pearson Gaudette Motte Roussel Beagle Schaller/Eriksson Hughes Myers Edler Tanev Tryamkin Stetcher Benn Marky Demko I this Tryamkin would be perfect top pairing with Hughes in Myers place, but set it like this because this will be more likely scenerio. That top 6 would be lit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: Hmm, perhaps you're right, could he be a player the Canucks take a chance on? I've heard he's had good chemistry with Pettersson in Sweden. My worry would be his entitled attitude. I hear you. When I first heard of his latest gaffs I thought as well that the Canucks should go after him. Then I remembered on NHL Network how a correspondent did not have much good to say about Anderssons game. If you look at his AHL numbers, pretty underwhelming. I'm not saying we shouldn't take a flyer on him. Just that I wouldn't offer much. I'd offer Lockwood or Madden if I thought they weren't signing. A player that walks on his team after a deserved demotion is a huge, huge, red flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Brock Botanen said: I like Juolevi also, but a duo of Pettersson and Andersson is intriguing to say the least. With Hughes and Tryamkin we have 2 very solid defenceman and we also have Woo, Brisebois, Rafferty, and other fine young Dmen coming up. Juolevi wont give us a boost this year and Andersson could come in and have instant chemistry. Just imagine this lineup.. (Tryamkin should be back for playoffs) Virtanen Pettersson Andersson Miller Horvat Boeser Pearson Gaudette Motte Roussel Beagle Schaller/Eriksson Hughes Myers Edler Tanev Tryamkin Stetcher Benn Marky Demko I this Tryamkin would be perfect top pairing with Hughes in Myers place, but set it like this because this will be more likely scenerio. That top 6 would be lit I think Andersson could be interesting with Petey as well. Just so dangerous to give up on a dman like OJ before you see what you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, rekker said: I think Andersson could be interesting with Petey as well. Just so dangerous to give up on a dman like OJ before you see what you got. Maybe we can get a D prospect back or a 2nd or 3rd as well to take a Dman with. Since OJ is a Dman and Lias is a forward, maybe OJ holds more value And if we are wrong atleast we sent OJ to the East Edited December 24, 2019 by Brock Botanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On a side note. I wonder if JB would ever approach EP and ask what he would think of adding Andersson to the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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