Top 50 Canucks of All-Time - Final List

[-AJ-]

2 minutes ago, goalie13 said:

It would be an interesting experiment to see how this would turn out using a different voting system like ranked ballots.

Yeah I toyed a bit with the idea of a different system but in the end this is how the lists were done in the past, so I figured I'd do it this way again. But yeah, I bet if we did three at a time or something, it would be a bit different.

[Kevin Biestra]

11 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

I'll paste my Top 70 here for anyone interested. I've also placed CDC's list aside mine for comparison. Positive numbers (yellow) means CDC had the player higher than I did and negative numbers (light blue) means CDC had them lower than I did.

 

	My List	Difference	CDC's List
1	H. Sedin	0	H. Sedin
2	D. Sedin	0	D. Sedin
3	T. Linden	0	T. Linden
4	M. Naslund	-1	P. Bure
5	S. Smyl	-1	M. Naslund
6	P. Bure	2	S. Smyl
7	R. Luongo	0	R. Luongo
8	T. Gradin	-1	K. McLean
9	K. McLean	1	T. Gradin
10	T. Bertuzzi	-1	A. Edler
11	A. Edler	1	T. Bertuzzi
12	R. Kesler	-3	M. Ohlund
13	A. Burrows	-2	R. Brodeur
14	T. Tanti	-3	A. Burrows
15	M. Ohlund	3	R. Kesler
16	B. Morrison	-5	H. Snepsts
17	J. Lumme	-2	T. Tanti
18	A. Boudrias	-4	A. Mogilny
19	A. Mogilny	1	J. Lumme
20	D. Lidster	-3	S. Salo
21	H. Snepsts	5	B. Morrison
22	R. Brodeur	9	A. Boudrias
23	D. Kearns	-4	D. Lidster
24	P. Sundstrom	-5	K. Bieksa
25	D. Lever	-1	C. Ronning
26	C. Ronning	1	D. Lever
27	P. Skriko	-5	D. Kearns
28	S. Salo	8	E. Jovanovski
29	K. Bieksa	5	P. Sundstrom
30	E. Jovanovski	2	G. Adams
31	G. Adams	1	O. Kurtenbach
32	G. Courtnall	-1	P. Skriko
33	D. Rota	-6	G. Courtnall
34	D. Ververgaert	-8	B. Horvat
35	C. Tanev	-5	T. Williams
36	K. McCarthy	-10	D. Babych
37	G. Smith	-8	G. Odjick
38	B. Horvat	4	J. Hansen
39	O. Kurtenbach	8	D. Rota
40	J. Hansen	2	C. Tanev
41	R. Lanz	-7	G. Butcher
42	B. Boeser	-8	D. Ververgaert
43	E. Pettersson	-1	D. Hamhuis
44	D. Williams	9	E. Pettersson
45	B. Schmautz	HM	G. Smith
46	G. Odjick	9	K. McCarthy
47	B. Pederson	HM	C. Oddleifson
48	I. Boldirev	HM	R. Lanz
49	I. Larionov	HM	C. Fraser
50	J. Markstrom	HM	B. Boeser
51	D. Babych	15	M. Cooke	HM
52	C. Fraser	3	I. Larionov	HM
53	G. Butcher	12	D. Murzyn	HM
54	R. Blight		D. Cloutier	HM
55	D. Cloutier	HM	M. Gelinas	HM
56	C. Oddleifson	9	R. Rypien	HM
57	J. Sandlak		B. Schmautz	HM
58	D. Hamhuis	15	J. Markstrom	HM
59	J. Gould		B. Pederson	HM
60	D. Halward		I. Boldirev	HM
61	M. Gelinas	HM
62	M. Cooke	HM
63	W. Mitchell
64	D. Tallon
65	Q. Hughes
66	J. Guevremont
67	M. Raymond
68	B. Lalonde
69	M. Lemay
70	G. O'Flaherty

 

Man I won't tell Tiger, Babych, Gino or Butcher how dirty you did them.  Or the King, otherwise it might be off with your head!

 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

Five years from now, the top 20 will be entirely different.

[goalie13]

9 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

Yeah I toyed a bit with the idea of a different system but in the end this is how the lists were done in the past, so I figured I'd do it this way again. But yeah, I bet if we did three at a time or something, it would be a bit different.

Three was what I was thinking too, but for each spot.  1st place vote worth 3 pts, 2nd = 2, 3rd = 1.  Whatever one player gets the most points gets in.  Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Dumb Nuck]

I officially protest the first and last spots, Bure should have been #1 and Brock should not have been in the top 50, what’s wrong with you people?

 

[Dumb Nuck]

My top 10:

 

#1 - P. Bure

#2 - H. Sedin

#3 - D. Sedin

#4 - T. Linden

#5 - S. Smyl

#6 - M. Naslund

#7 - K. McLean

#8 - R. Luongo

#9 - T. Gradin

#10 - A. Edler

 

The rest of you are all wrong......cheers!

[Nostalgia]

25 minutes ago, Dumb Nuck said:

My top 10:

 

#1 - P. Bure

#2 - H. Sedin

#3 - D. Sedin

#4 - T. Linden

#5 - S. Smyl

#6 - M. Naslund

#7 - K. McLean

#8 - R. Luongo

#9 - T. Gradin

#10 - A. Edler

 

The rest of you are all wrong......cheers!

Agree with you!

[IBatch]

8 hours ago, Kevin Biestra said:

Young Murzyn asks Ripley:  Did you see the CDC voted Cooke in before me, he’s automatically in at 51 now what are we going to do?

There fixed it for you ha ha.   Also no hard feelings - parting shot.  Thanks AJ, and the rest of you folks this was fun...is Covid over yet because I was hoping it would be by the time this was done ha ha.. NHL.coms doing a who wore it best countdown which ok I guess...99-60 is done at the moment ... but it’s not fun like this was. 

[189lb enforcers?]

GMs next?

Coaches would be real gud too. 
 

Might be saturated now though. 
 

Happy May long, everybody. 

[Baratheon]

Thanks for this AJ!

 

I have been a long time lurker haha!  (I know it says I joined 2013 but that's just when I made the account.)  Nothing has gotten me to actively post like this top 50 series.  I think I might try to stay a little more active.  I've really enjoyed talking to everyone here!

[Master Mind]

Thanks for doing this @-AJ-, I always enjoy these types of polls.

 

Any consideration for running another while we wait for hockey? Perhaps top 50 current NHLers or something.

 

Here's my top 10 Canucks:

 

1. Henrik

2. Daniel

3. Luongo

4. Linden

5. Naslund

6. Bure

7. Smyl

8. McLean

9. Gradin

10. Kesler

 

[-AJ-]

Another list may be fun. It sounds like NHL hockey won't be starting for a while if it does start back up. A list of current NHLers is the most interesting one to me that's been suggested, but if anyone else has any suggestions, I'm open.

[Kevin Biestra]

15 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

Another list may be fun. It sounds like NHL hockey won't be starting for a while if it does start back up. A list of current NHLers is the most interesting one to me that's been suggested, but if anyone else has any suggestions, I'm open.

 

Top 50 players to hang out naked with Gary Coleman?

 

[CaptKirk888]

Thanks @-AJ- Had fun voting and seeing everyone's various opinions. 

[IBatch]

1 hour ago, -AJ- said:

Another list may be fun. It sounds like NHL hockey won't be starting for a while if it does start back up. A list of current NHLers is the most interesting one to me that's been suggested, but if anyone else has any suggestions, I'm open.

Best by position would be fun to do.  I have BB near the top for his - well because he currently is.   For defenseman could do right side and left side - QH and Edler should both make the top 30 there ... Myers ... hard to say but would put things into perspective for guys that think that’s an albatross (it is not).   Or we could do best all-time by position which for me at least would be more interesting...as long as Lidstrom doesn’t go before Harvey, Shore, Orr, Potvin, Borque, Coffey id be ok with that ha ha.  

[-AJ-]

1 minute ago, IBatch said:

Best by position would be fun to do.  I have BB near the top for his - well because he currently is.   For defenseman could do right side and left side - QH and Edler should both make the top 30 there ... Myers ... hard to say but would put things into perspective for guys that think that’s an albatross (it is not).   Or we could do best all-time by position which for me at least would be more interesting...as long as Lidstrom doesn’t go before Harvey, Shore, Orr, Potvin, Borque, Coffey id be ok with that ha ha.  

Yeah, I wouldn't want to do best Canucks all-time by position, as that's kind of already been done, but current NHL players could be interesting. Due to the fluidity of some positions, I wouldn't restrict it beyond forwards and defensemen though. Goaltenders would be another option if we wanted to just do by position.

[IBatch]

4 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

Yeah, I wouldn't want to do best Canucks all-time by position, as that's kind of already been done, but current NHL players could be interesting. Due to the fluidity of some positions, I wouldn't restrict it beyond forwards and defensemen though. Goaltenders would be another option if we wanted to just do by position.

Best all-time by position top 50 for each would keep us busy for awhile too. Would be interesting to see who’s playing now that might be worthy.  Crosby, Ovi, Malkin, Lundqvist are slam dunks of course...but who else ?!

 

Edit: And would be interesting to see what former Canucks could crack the top 50...Bure for sure. 

Edited May 16, 2020 by IBatch

[-AJ-]

Just now, IBatch said:

Best all-time by position top 50 for each would keep us busy for awhile too. Would be interesting to see who’s playing now that might be worthy.  Crosby, Ovi, Malkin, Lundqvist are slam dunks of course...but who else ?!

I would be surprised if Luongo wasn't very highly rated by many. He's high up on my goaltenders list for sure. Some long term guys like Marleau, Thornton, and Chara might get consideration too.

[IBatch]

26 minutes ago, -AJ- said:

I would be surprised if Luongo wasn't very highly rated by many. He's high up on my goaltenders list for sure. Some long term guys like Marleau, Thornton, and Chara might get consideration too.

Didn’t mention Luongo simply because he’s retired but for sure he’s making the top 50 goaltenders all-time.  Chara is one of a few defenseman of his generation that also might make it - Burns, Karlsson, Doughty and Keith are the others ... maybe Kane too. Edit and yes Thornton is all but a slam dunk...put huge points in the dead puck era and made the Sharks one of the best teams the past 20 years despite no cup. 
 

edit;  Think D Sedin also would make the top 50 for L wingers - H. Sedin probably not given the competition is much stiffer...Naslund also has an outside chance too

Edited May 16, 2020 by IBatch

[Kevin Biestra]

21 minutes ago, IBatch said:

Didn’t mention Luongo simply because he’s retired but for sure he’s making the top 50 goaltenders all-time.  Chara is one of a few defenseman of his generation that also might make it - Burns, Karlsson, Doughty and Keith are the others ... maybe Kane too. Edit and yes Thornton is all but a slam dunk...put huge points in the dead puck era and made the Sharks one of the best teams the past 20 years despite no cup. 
 

edit;  Think D Sedin also would make the top 50 for L wingers - H. Sedin probably not given the competition is much stiffer...Naslund also has an outside chance too

 

I'm having a hard time thinking of 50 better left wingers.  And there sure aren't a lot of left wingers to win an Art Ross Trophy.

 

As it stands, Daniel is 11th all time in LW career scoring.  And of the guys ahead of him, I have him easily above Ray Whitney and Keith Tkachuk, and probably Andreychuk as well (the guy did captain a team to the Stanley Cup).  Someone could also try to make a case for him being better than Robitaille, Goulet and Shanahan.

 

As for the guys behind him in scoring, the only ones I would promote to above Daniel are Ted Lindsay, Bob Gainey and...maybe Clark Gillies.  Tough to make a call with really old guys like Bert Olmstead, Dickie Moore, Toe Blake.  But anyway, Daniel isn't dropping many spots if any at all when recalibrating the list.

 

By the way, Markus Naslund is 19th in career scoring for LWs.  I'd have him in the top 50 as well.