[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks vs. Winnipeg Jets | March 24, 2021 | 7:30 p.m. PT | SNP

[4petesake]

6 minutes ago, kanucks25 said:

We had a player in Stecher that could pretty much do what Myers does and we let him go for nothing, he also would have been paid about 4M less.

 

Or you can throw Tanev in there instead.

 

Heck, why not both? Their combined salaries are about what Myers makes.

 

Hughes - Tanev

Edler - Schmidt

Benn/Juolevi/Rathbone - Stecher

 

 

OK, that’s too funny. I’ll give you a mulligan and you can have a do-over on that one if you like! We all loved Stetch with his heart of a lion, but not even remotely close to “pretty much do what Myers does.” Two totally different talent sets, and physically on opposite ends of a graph!

[kanucks25]

Just now, 4petesake said:

OK, that’s too funny. I’ll give you a mulligan and you can have a do-over on that one if you like! We all loved Stetch with his heart of a lion, but not even remotely close to “pretty much do what Myers does.” Two totally different talent sets, and physically on opposite ends of a graph!

If the role is "tread water as best as possible on the sheltered 3rd pairing" then I trust Stecher to do that job just fine, especially if it's for 1/3rd the cap which allows you the room to sign another good player (who is also better than Myers).

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[kanucks25]

2 minutes ago, aGENT said:

 

No, he can't . And I quite like Stecher.

 

Rather have Myers and Hamonic. Particularly with the term Tanev got.

Myers is better offensively and worse defensively. They aren't the same but they are best suited for the same role (sheltered 3rd pair).

 

And of course you rather whatever Benning did, when have you not? And who can blame you, with how well this defence has come together (SARCASM).

[aGENT]

4 minutes ago, kanucks25 said:

Myers is better offensively and worse defensively. They aren't the same but they are best suited for the same role (sheltered 3rd pair).

 

And of course you rather whatever Benning did, when have you not? And who can blame you, with how well this defence has come together (SARCASM).

Myers isn't remotely a 'sheltered 3rd pair' 

 

You're either VERY confused or trolling.

[canuck73_3]

19 hours ago, 5Fivehole0 said:

2010-2020 Was a bad decade. 3 of those appearances were in the first 3 years. There hasn't been a 30 goal scorer on the team since Radim Vrbata. The only player to be a point per game since 2012 is JT Miller. 

To say the Canucks have been anything but underwhelming since 2011-2012 season would be a lie. The end of the last season the Canucks weren't even projected to make the playoffs. They were fortunate to have the play in. While they definitely stood there ground and had a solid run, it was on the back of stellar goal tending that the Canucks did so well. The team was heavily out shot, and was the worst team, metrically, in the playoffs.

We would have had 2 30 goal scorers last year had the season not been cut short and Boeser was on pace twice for well over 30 goals before injury, as was Elias Pettersson in his rookie year before injury. So no 30 goal scorer since Vrbata is technically right it is a tad disingenuous.

[canuck73_3]

13 minutes ago, kanucks25 said:

Myers is better offensively and worse defensively. They aren't the same but they are best suited for the same role (sheltered 3rd pair).

 

And of course you rather whatever Benning did, when have you not? And who can blame you, with how well this defence has come together (SARCASM).

Weak Myers take as usual with his detractors. 

[WHL rocks]

Myers isn't a good contract. Most people know that. He's a decent player, has size, skates well. But 6 mill is steep. 

 

Hamonic is a good contract and good player. I'd like to see him extended for 2 to 3 seasons at a reasonable contract. He's a keeper..

[kanucks25]

10 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Myers isn't remotely a 'sheltered 3rd pair' 

 

You're either VERY confused or trolling.

Explain how? Edler and Schmidt are playing the shutdown role.

 

Myers is not counted on to shutdown, nor is he considered a powerplay specialist. So what exactly does he do?

 

That's what bottom pairing D-men are. Guys you just throw out there that you hope can eat a shift while your top-4 rests a little.

 

Ideally you don't pay them 6M.

[kanucks25]

3 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Weak Myers take as usual with his detractors. 

Cool story but anything to back this up besides ice time and "some other team would have given him 6M"?

[Devron]

Myers is literally 2nd on the team in ice time. Only to Quinn Hughes. He’s probably a 5 million dollar defencemen for what you get from him. 
 

Sheltered lmao 

[Devron]

56 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Myers isn't a good contract. Most people know that. He's a decent player, has size, skates well. But 6 mill is steep. 

 

Hamonic is a good contract and good player. I'd like to see him extended for 2 to 3 seasons at a reasonable contract. He's a keeper..

Good points. My issue with peoples opinions regarding Myers contract is it’s not far off for what you get from him. Steep ya I get that but people make it sound like it’s a garbage contract and it’s not.. Right handed Dman and extremely hard to get and free agency is always a premium although we may now have a market correction with a flat cap.

He’s playing pretty darn good. Seems to be the guys that leads us to a win after we’ve lost a couple. He’s a top 4 Dman but people look at the line-up and it shows that he’s on the third pair which doesn’t mean crap. It’s just how the pairing work out. Also Thought he was mentoring OJ quite nicely before coaches decided he wasn’t part of their plans this year 

[steviewonder20]

23 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

But my quote was decade, he cherry picked our down years. And even still our years since 2013 have been better than Buffalo’s... That is rough 

Better than Buffalo is a low bar, lol. 

[4petesake]

I should have posted this over on the Game Management thread but thought it might not be found. Think people will enjoy this clip on a slow Friday night of Juice talking about the Peel incident.

 

 

[WHL rocks]

23 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

But my quote was decade, he cherry picked our down years. And even still our years since 2013 have been better than Buffalo’s... That is rough 

Understand your point..

 

But not sure we should be comparing ourselves to BUF to gauge our team's success.  

[canuck73_3]

45 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Understand your point..

 

But not sure we should be comparing ourselves to BUF to gauge our team's success.  

True, but it keeps being parroted around here that we’re as brutal as Buffalo. 
 

The truth is we re-tooled to give the Sedins one last hurrah from 2013-2017. It didn't pan out and rebuild started 2017/18 until this season and beyond. 

 

Buffalo on the other hand has been rebuilding since 2011 after their 3 year re-tool. 

[canuck73_3]

2 hours ago, kanucks25 said:

Cool story but anything to back this up besides ice time and "some other team would have given him 6M"?

Why waste the effort your mind is made up regardless of what is said. 

[kanucks25]

2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Why waste the effort your mind is made up regardless of what is said. 

In other words, there's nothing.

 

Because there is nothing.

 

I'm seeing a lot of posts defending Myers but very little actual tangible evidence?

 

Lots of:

- Well that's what you have to pay in free agency

- Right handed D-man

- Ice time

- Big and can skate

- Good guy

 

None of which really prove that he's a good player, they are just things. 

 

In fact, if you read that list, it's pretty similar to a few years ago when I was arguing against Gudbranson and people were ripping me for that, too.

 

The more things change...

[canuck73_3]

Just now, kanucks25 said:

In other words, there's nothing.

 

Because there is nothing.

 

I'm seeing a lot of posts defending Myers but very little actual tangible evidence?

 

Lots of:

- Well that's what you have to pay in free agency

- Right handed D-man

- Ice time

- Big and can skate

- Good guy

 

None of which really prove that he's a good player, they are just things. 

 

In fact, if you read that list, it's pretty similar to a few years ago when I was arguing against Gudbranson and people were ripping me for that, too.

 

The more things change...

No, it's been explained to by multiple posters and then you come back with this smarmy crap. 

[5Fivehole0]

2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:

We would have had 2 30 goal scorers last year had the season not been cut short and Boeser was on pace twice for well over 30 goals before injury, as was Elias Pettersson in his rookie year before injury. So no 30 goal scorer since Vrbata is technically right it is a tad disingenuous.

Would have, but didn't. Point still stands.