RUPERTKBD Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, Josepho said: Other teams making mistakes doesn't mean that we should be making them as well. Except that this is how the market is set. What comparable players make on the open market absolutely affects the salaries GMs have to pay to attract players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Who does? Pretty much only our own idiot fan base. uh i live in edmonton. ive heard he term R*****S too many time describing our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Spoiler https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/active/2021/caphit/all/forwards?signing-status=ufa&stats-season=2021&display=heightcm&limits=age-27-46,caphit-1500000-5500000,toi-9-18,length-2-15,pointspergame-0.1-1 these are the contracccts that make pearson look overpaid there is less than the ones i have listed below. https://www.capfriendly.com/players/craig-smith https://www.capfriendly.com/players/valtteri-filppula https://www.capfriendly.com/players/carl-hagelin https://www.capfriendly.com/players/blake-comeau https://www.capfriendly.com/players/alex-chiasson https://www.capfriendly.com/players/vladislav-namestnikov https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jesper-fast https://www.capfriendly.com/players/rocco-grimaldi https://www.capfriendly.com/players/luke-glendening https://www.capfriendly.com/players/noel-acciari https://www.capfriendly.com/players/nick-cousins https://www.capfriendly.com/players/derek-grant https://www.capfriendly.com/players/austin-watson https://www.capfriendly.com/players/garnet-hathaway there is way more bad contracts below https://www.capfriendly.com/players/charlie-coyle https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jakob-silfverberg https://www.capfriendly.com/players/frans-nielsen https://www.capfriendly.com/players/evgeni-dadonov https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mathieu-perreault https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brett-connolly https://www.capfriendly.com/players/cal-clutterbuck https://www.capfriendly.com/players/paul-byron https://www.capfriendly.com/players/ryan-dzingel https://www.capfriendly.com/players/eric-staal https://www.capfriendly.com/players/andrew-cogliano https://www.capfriendly.com/players/zack-kassian https://www.capfriendly.com/players/leo-komarov https://www.capfriendly.com/players/antoine-roussel https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jay-beagle https://www.capfriendly.com/players/matt-calvert https://www.capfriendly.com/players/richard-panik https://www.capfriendly.com/players/riley-nash https://www.capfriendly.com/players/conor-sheary https://www.capfriendly.com/players/adam-lowry https://www.capfriendly.com/players/alex-iafallo seriously look at the contracts there is about 3/2 contracts that suggest benning made a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Petey_BOI said: uh i live in edmonton. ive heard he term R*****S too many time describing our fans. And we say the same stuff about every other fan base. And every other fan base says it about any other rival fan base in every sport. Welcome to sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, IBatch said: I'd like to hear the source. Just idiotic. Was it the janitor that said this? Maybe JB was rewarding him before exposing him. Or maybe he was just signing him because he realized with the LWs available under free agency in that price bracket better to go with what you know and has no intention to expose him. Yes we will find out. i honestly don't believe it. especially since jim is known for putting amendments in current contracts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, kanucks25 said: And we say the same stuff about every other fan base. And every other fan base says it about any other rival fan base in every sport. Welcome to sports. you JUST said that no one did. let me remind you. "Who does? Pretty much only our own idiot fan base." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, Petey_BOI said: you JUST said that no one did. let me remind you. "Who does? Pretty much only our own idiot fan base." Fans calling fans of other teams silly names is pretty standard, it doesn't mean anything. It's not tangible evidence of other hockey fan bases looking down on Canucks fans in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, kanucks25 said: Fans calling fans of other teams silly names is pretty standard, it doesn't mean anything. It's not tangible evidence of other hockey fan bases looking down on Canucks fans in particular. right, cause starting a riot and being called out for it means nothing. we have some really good fans, and then we got the others. these others are a sad group, that thrive on hate. you know who also thrived on hate? trump supporters, yes i'm going there. ive heard too many times on this board that wished serious harm to these peoples health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, tas said: if zach hyman actually pulls down $5 mil x 5 years on the open market like lebrun thinks he might, will people still complain about pearson's $3.25 x 3 years? Yes. And Hyman for sure is a better player. He's been solid for them for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Petey_BOI said: right, cause starting a riot and being called out for it means nothing. we have some really good fans, and then we got the others. these others are a sad group, that thrive on hate. you know who also thrived on hate? trump supporters, yes i'm going there. ive heard too many times on this board that wished serious harm to these peoples health. Honestly not sure what you're going on about. We can agree to disagree on if the riot was a reflection on actual Canucks fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Petey_BOI said: i honestly don't believe it. especially since jim is known for putting amendments in current contracts And really does it even matter? If he was a RW maybe my head would have exploded. Our left side is awfully thin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 8:44 AM, tas said: benning is focused on team building, not asset management. In sports, and especially in a hard cap league, these two concepts go hand-in-hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) On 4/22/2021 at 2:34 PM, VegasCanuck said: Its not going to make any difference to Aqua, we're moving the right direction and stunts by glue sniffing morons isn't going to influence a billionaire who makes decisions on actual knowledge. Like hiring Torts for 1 year? e/ against the wishes of his GM that gave him the most successful team in franchise history, only to fire both a year later. v knowledge, v Edited April 23, 2021 by kanucks25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 3:32 PM, tas said: yes, at least in the immediate term. that said, if not for the flat cap, I believe things would have gone differently. I'm willing to extend him the benefit of the doubt over those losses, knowing that his stated intentions were to bring those guys back and that he lacks the guile to be a bald-faced liar about it. Flat cap was known about back in April of last year, before our "playoff run". Lots of time and information to make the correct decisions. But, as Benning put it himself, he "ran out of time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Like hiring Torts for 1 year? Maybe benning wanted to give some of our special fans a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Like hiring Torts for 1 year? e/ against the wishes of his GM that gave him the most successful team in franchise history, only to fire both a year later. What a debacle that was. He should have kept Alain, he wasn’t aging out his team was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, Petey_BOI said: Maybe benning wanted to give some of our special fans a hero. Wasn’t JB’s hire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 1:14 PM, tas said: except that the people who harp on "asset management" constantly treat the players like they're anonymous pawns and not 3 dimensional human beings. the happiness of the individuals and the group, the team chemistry, the off-ice roles players fill, all these things outweigh the spreadsheets and stats and pts per $. On 4/22/2021 at 1:24 PM, aGENT said: There's FAR more to building a team than eking every last drop off value out of team assets (AKA players, AKA humans, as you pointed out). It's certainly a part of team building but it is not the actual goal, nor should it be the only focus. It also myopically ignores the value in retaining those players. And regardless, we're hardly left wanting in regards to our prospect pool and organizational depth despite this so called asset management 'failing'. Forest. Trees. Not that it was directly suggested otherwise, but it's possible for one to understand the human element of the game and still think the Benning firing is justifiable simply due to asset management, or lack thereof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 4:13 PM, spur1 said: I am having a hard time understanding why so many want to fire the best GM we have ever had. I am starting to think they are fans like Arty over at SN. I am having a hard time understanding why a GM that has led the team to more bottom-5 finishes than playoff rounds would be considered "the best GM we have ever had"? Like I know our franchise doesn't have the most storied history but jeez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 4:25 PM, Sbriggs said: Love the Big Irishman but Benning will go down in history as our best GM once he's won us a Stanley Cup mk well then let's wait til he wins that Cup. Or at least ices a good team, it would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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