Nucker 67 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Schmidt, Roussel, Gadjovich and a 4th (2022) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Alflives said: True, but do we want to pay OEL 8.5 for those six years? Maybe we keep Loui and Rooster, and trade Schmidt strait across? But they will have to retain, no? I don't think OEL is an up grade on Schmidt, so I'd like to leave him out of it but otherwise, something like this would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovi one kenobi Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I would rather try and get a younger dman from the expansion draft such as Jake Bean then go after an aging OEL. He clearly hasn't lived up to his 8.25m dollar salary this season and even with some retention is unlikely to age well. The last thing we need is the defense version of Erikson on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 That contract screams, no thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_19 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I don't think OEL is an upgrade on Schmidt and we need dmen on our right side more. With that being said, I'd still do it for the immediate cap savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 OEL’s contract is always on the “worst contracts in the league” lists. Not sure why we would take that many years of overpaid term to get rid of cap that is coming off the books in a season. Look at our future cap situation and we would have a hard time eating those dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Provost said: OEL’s contract is always on the “worst contracts in the league” lists. Not sure why we would take that many years of overpaid term to get rid of cap that is coming off the books in a season. Look at our future cap situation and we would have a hard time eating those dollars. Not necessarily. Cap should be going up like normal after next season. New TV deals and fans coming back. id rather take my chances with OEL than what schmidt has shown. He will only be 35 by the end of the contract not 50. unloading 15+ mill in salary and taking 8.25 back helps to open up money to sign a better 3C and RHD this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 5 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: Schmidt, Roussel, Gadjovich and a 4th (2022) Schmidt, if utilized correctly, is better than OEL and is also the best defenseman on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: Schmidt, if utilized correctly, is better than OEL and is also the best defenseman on our team. Lol absolutely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Not necessarily. Cap should be going up like normal after next season. New TV deals and fans coming back. It will not.... not even close. We are in for an effectively flat cap for 3-5 years. 1. The players were already paying significant escrow prior to Covid as they had artificially raised the ceiling using their escalator clause. The cap was about $10 million higher than what the HRR share would make it. That difference already completely wiped out the gains from the new TV deal of about $10 million per team. 2. The Covid CBA put an artificial cap on escrow, meaning by the time fans are fully back in all the buildings, the players will owe between $1-1.5 billion dollars to the owners that has to be repaid. A continued flat cap even when revenue increases is how they can do that. 3. The new cap calculation takes the two previous years HRR to calculate the next year’s cap. That means for both the 2021-22 and 2022-23 season it will still be using this season of almost no ticket revenue for the calculation. This will keep the cap down until after those years just due that calculation... even ignoring the billion dollars the players will owe. 4. The first part of season isn’t likely to have anything near full capacity in the Canadian markets.... so another lower revenue year that impacts future cap calculations. Edited May 23, 2021 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Because they have a dman that they would rather pay the big bucks for. Its exactly the same reason we got schmidt. They tried trading him last year but it didnt work out but that dont mean they wont have talks this offseason. Schmidt isnt little hes a top 4 dman in the league. If they want us to take a big contract then they have to bend and help us out as well and could easily buy him out for not much money. Adding a top pick for a team without a 1st isnt “little” either Your proposal involves shipping out 14.95million in cap space to Arizona. This is just badly contradicting yourself. The OEL story is more like Arizona wanted to get some value out of him while he is in his somewhat prime. OEL would only give Arizona 2 teams, us and Boston and a deadline; because OEL really actually does prefer to stay in Arizona, but would help facilitate a trade if needed to be. Arizona does not like the value back out of us and Boston, so the deadline went and gone. For there to be a OEL trade again, it would mean OEL have to again agree to waive to be traded and Arizona liking the value going back. We are not going to get freebies again. Not to mention how "well" our team's played this season. And how we managed to get the whole team catch COVID, I am not sure we are the prime destination players want to land in this summer. Does Schmidt/Hamonic/Holtby regret signing here? Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: Lol absolutely not https://www.google.com/amp/s/keviniole.com/2019/01/07/the-difference-in-the-golden-knights-with-and-without-nate-schmidt-is-startling/amp/ Utilize Schmidt correctly and he’s one of the best in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Patel Bure said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/keviniole.com/2019/01/07/the-difference-in-the-golden-knights-with-and-without-nate-schmidt-is-startling/amp/ Utilize Schmidt correctly and he’s one of the best in the league. So this kevin lole guy is some sorta genius or something? That article was written 2 years ago, if schmidt was one of the best defenseman in the league and super elite dont you think we woulda noticed that this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: So this kevin lole guy is some sorta genius or something? That article was written 2 years ago, if schmidt was one of the best defenseman in the league and super elite dont you think we woulda noticed that this season? He wasn’t being deployed like he was in Vegas. Play him on the right side, and use him exactly as how he was being used in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, Provost said: It will not.... not even close. We are in for an effectively flat cap for 3-5 years. 1. The players were already paying significant escrow prior to Covid as they had artificially raised the ceiling using their escalator clause. The cap was about $10 million higher than what the HRR share would make it. That difference already completely wiped out the gains from the new TV deal of about $10 million per team. 2. The Covid CBA put an artificial cap on escrow, meaning by the time fans are fully back in all the buildings, the players will owe between $1-1.5 billion dollars to the owners that has to be repaid. A continued flat cap even when revenue increases is how they can do that. 3. The new cap calculation takes the two previous years HRR to calculate the next year’s cap. That means for both the 2021-22 and 2022-23 season it will still be using this season of almost no ticket revenue for the calculation. This will keep the cap down until after those years just due that calculation... even ignoring the billion dollars the players will owe. 4. The first part of season isn’t likely to have anything near full capacity in the Canadian markets.... so another lower revenue year that impacts future cap calculations. So i guess JB was lying about being told that the cap was meant to go up to 85-88 mill before covid shutdown the league last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Patel Bure said: He wasn’t being deployed like he was in Vegas. Play him on the right side, and use him exactly as how he was being used in Vegas. He was used on the right side tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Bertuzzipunch said: He was used on the right side tho True but he was used in a more defensive role with Edler. They couldn’t break out and join the rush in the manner that Schmidt was doing in Vegas. Hughes would have been an ideal partner for Schmidt but QH isn’t strong enough defensively to play with NS. Play Schmidt exactly like he was being used in Vegas and we’ll have one of the top dmen in the league. It was an absolute “travis-ty” as to how he was deployed this past season. If the Canucks can’t draft Owen Power or Simon Edvinsson in this draft, is strongly consider attempting to trade for Hampus Lindholm in a sign and trade type deal. He’d be the perfect partner for Schmidt. Edited May 23, 2021 by Patel Bure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Alflives said: I like it. OEL is 29, so his contract ends at the same age that Edler is now. He is our immediate Edler replacement. I would want the Coyotes to retain 1.5 million though. LOL so AZ will take Erickson Rooster plus a second round pick and they have to retain salary LOL... what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannuck59 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Patel Bure said: Schmidt, if utilized correctly, is better than OEL and is also the best defenseman on our team. LOL this one is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, vannuck59 said: LOL this one is even worse. Did you watch Schmidt play in Vegas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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