2022 NHL Entry Draft

[HighOnHockey]

19 hours ago, R3aL said:

Sorry this is irrelevant to your post I quoted just wanted to acknowledge you for last year.

 

Must be nice seeing you were right about cole sillinger! You were higher on him then anyone last year good job mate! 

 

I clearly don't mind pumping my own tires, but I do appreciate the recognition. I've been working at it for years and have finally had some proud scouting moments in the past couple years. Had Raymond 2nd and was one of his biggest fans in his draft year. People on HF told me I was just looking for attention and no way should he be ahead of Byfield. Even I didn't think he'd be at this level so soon though. Had Mukhamadullin at 17th and they said I was being cute. Was a bit late to the party on Eklund but had him 1st overall in my final list. He's looking ok so far.

 

Some questionable calls from last draft though. Wasn't big on Edvinsson or McTavish, and both are looking to prove me wrong so far.

 

What I'm more pleased with than seeing prospects I like succeed though, is when I'm able to identify and correct false narratives around prospects, as with Lambos and Sillinger this past draft in particular. Early on in their draft years there was this narrative established somehow around Lambos that he was a stable, unexciting defensive defenseman, and Sillinger was this one-dimensional goal-scorer. I had already seen both since the U17 and knew those things to be patently false. I was seeing Lambos compared to Pietrangelo while I compared him to P.K. Subban. A remarkably talented two-way defenseman who was a force in both the offensive and defensive zones, but with serious flaws in his decision-making and risk-manaement. And With Sillinger I saw an exceptional defensive center, pro-style player, and heart-and-soul competitior, in addition to a goal-scorer, a la Joe Paveslki or Chris Drury.

 

Can't wait to see what happens with this year's draft.

Edited October 25, 2021 by HighOnHockey

[Bure_Pavel]

Most impressive draft year performance this year so far is Joakim Kemell. If he keeps up his current pace could be a top 3 pick. 

 

Joakim Kemell (RW)

JYP

Liiga

15

11

6

17

 

Barkov:

Tappara

SM-liiga

53

21

27

48

 

 

Edited October 28, 2021 by Bure_Pavel

[J.I.A.H.N]

 

@HighOnHockey

I have picked out my "I want" prospect for the year, and will be watching where he ends up and who passes him, or who he passes.

 David JiricekI  6'3" 176 lb, RHD , I have seen him in the 8 to 12 OA range.

I have loved his video and write ups.............Keep an eye on him!

[J.I.A.H.N]

Further to my last comment to @HighOnHockey

 

I think this is a great year to focus in on a high end RHD.

 

It does remain to be seen, if we will be close to him, as we may have a little lower pick

 

But this is a year, where you move up and target a player, just like NYR did with Brayden Schneider a couple of years ago.

 

There are many ways to move up. "IF" you have a willing partner, but you have to give to get!

[HighOnHockey]

4 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

Further to my last comment to @HighOnHockey

 

I think this is a great year to focus in on a high end RHD.

 

It does remain to be seen, if we will be close to him, as we may have a little lower pick

 

But this is a year, where you move up and target a player, just like NYR did with Brayden Schneider a couple of years ago.

 

There are many ways to move up. "IF" you have a willing partner, but you have to give to get!

Yeah, I recall there was a lot of people pushing for RHD last year, and I was pretty adamant that it was dumb. There were how many RHD qualified to go in the top 15 or 20. Clarke, Ceulemans, Heimosalmi? Not many anyway.

 

This would probably be the year that it would make more sense to go after an RHD. I've got Nemec top 5, Seamus Casey, Tristan Luneau, David Jiricek, top 15. Elias Salomonsson, Ryan Chesley, Ty Nelson all probable firsts. Kasper Kulonummi, Micahel Mastrodomenico, Vinny Borgesi should go in the first couple rounds. And I'm not all that up on all the Canadian prospects yet with no season for some leagues last year, but will be more. Should be opportunities to get a couple RD you like without having to exhaust picks to move up or risk missing a player you like better to move down.

 

I haven't seen a ton of Jiricek. Good player though. Thought of him more as defensive defenseman until I saw him run a powerplay. Not bad. Not sure he'll ever be a first unit guy in the NHL, but he could help an NHL powerplay.

 

If it's an eventual D partner for Quinn Hughes we're after I think the ideal player would be Tristan Luneau. I talked last year about how I like Colorado's idea of adding a guy like Toews to play with Makar and Girard. Hampus Lindholm will be a great partner for Drysdale should Anaheim re-sign him. Same for Severson and Ty Smith. If you've got a big hulking defenseman in there who can't move the puck, Quinn is going to get stuck in his zone and we know nothing good happens then. Guys like Toews, Severson, Weegar, Lindholm, etc, are excellent partners to these new age defenseman, because they can cover a good share of the defensive duties, but they can also skate with your Quinn Hughes or Makar and transition the puck in their own rights. The less time Hughes spends in his own zone and the more time on the attack, the better. Obviously.

 

That's what I think Tristan Luneau could be. Strong skater, 6'2, separates pucks from bodies, releases pressure quickly and effectively, and he's an elite transition defenseman for his age group.. Something like a Jake Sanderson, but not as elite a skater. This early I can only say with much confidence that he should be in the 10-25 range, but personally I would take him on the earlier side of that. Of course the problem still remains you're looking at 1-3 years before he makes it to the NHL, and another 2-3 years beyond that to develop into an impact NHL defenseman you'd want playing with Hughes.

Edited October 29, 2021 by HighOnHockey

[J.I.A.H.N]

7 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said:

Yeah, I recall there was a lot of people pushing for RHD last year, and I was pretty adamant that it was dumb. There were how many RHD qualified to go in the top 15 or 20. Clarke, Ceulemans, Heimosalmi? Not many anyway.

 

This would probably be the year that it would make more sense to go after an RHD. I've got Nemec top 5, Seamus Casey, Tristan Luneau, David Jiricek, top 15. Elias Salomonsson, Ryan Chesley, Ty Nelson all probable firsts. Kasper Kulonummi, Micahel Mastrodomenico, Vinny Borgesi should go in the first couple rounds. And I'm not all that up on all the Canadian prospects yet with no season for some leagues last year, but will be more. Should be opportunities to get a couple RD you like without having to exhaust picks too force much movement.

 

I haven't seen a ton of Jiricek. Good player though. Thought of him more as defensive defenseman until I saw him run a powerplay. Not bad. Not sure he'll ever be a first unit guy in the NHL, but he could help an NHL powerplay.

 

If it's an eventual D partner for Quinn Hughes we're after I think the ideal player would be Tristan Luneau. I talked last year about how I like Colorado's idea of guy like Toews to play with Makar and Girard. Hampus Lindholm will be a great partner for Drysdale should Anaheim sign him. Same for Severson and Ty Smith. If you've got a big hulking defenseman in there who can't move the puck, Quinn is going to get stuck in his zone and we know nothing good happens then. Guys like Toews, Severson, Weegar, Lindholm, etc, are excellent partners to these new age defenseman, because they can cover a good share of the defensive duties, but they can also skate with your Quinn Hughes or Makar and transition the puck. The less time Hughes spends in his own zone and the more time on the attack, the better. Obviously.

 

That's what I think Tristan Luneau could be. Strong skater, 6'2, separates pucks from bodies, releases pressure quickly and effectively, and he's an elite transition defenseman for his age group.. Something like a Jake Sanderson, but not as elite a skater. This early I can only say with much confidence that he should be in the 10-25 range, but personally I would take him on the earlier side of that.

Funny how you don't like those big defensive Dmen

I am not saying you are wrong, just an observation

You do not like David Jiricek's skating?........I won't take issue with your observations, as it is early and you do make a great argument

I will watch, as the season goes.........it will be interesting to see where everyone lies in June

a long time from now! Too bad we do not have a 2nd this year!

I love this topic....thanks for the response!

Cheers!

[HighOnHockey]

8 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

Funny how you don't like those big defensive Dmen

I am not saying you are wrong, just an observation

You do not like David Jiricek's skating?........I won't take issue with your observations, as it is early and you do make a great argument

I will watch, as the season goes.........it will be interesting to see where everyone lies in June

a long time from now! Too bad we do not have a 2nd this year!

I love this topic....thanks for the response!

Cheers!

... Not sure what you're on about here. There's a one inch height difference between Jiricek and Luneau. Not sure where you think I said I didn't like Jiricek? Said I haven't seen him much and there's a defenseman I've seen more and like better so far. I was also Mukhamadullin's biggest fan. He's 6'4 and a pure shutdown defenseman. I had Kaiden Guhle ranked right about where he went. My not liking Brayden Schneier has less to do with stylistic preference and more to do with an opinion on an individual player.

[J.I.A.H.N]

1 minute ago, HighOnHockey said:

... Not sure what you're on about here. There's a one inch height difference between Jiricek and Luneau. Not sure where you think I said I didn't like Jiricek? Said I haven't seen him much and there's a defenseman I've seen more and like better so far. I was also Mukhamadullin's biggest fan. He's 6'4 and a pure shutdown defenseman. I had Kaiden Guhle ranked right about where he went. My not liking Brayden Schneier has less to do with stylistic preference and more to do with an opinion on an individual player.

LOL....I seem to tug on you the wrong way at times.........did not mean to 

 

Just everything I have read has Luneau ranked quite a bit lower than Jiricek in the early rankings

 

But as I said a long time ago.......I like your takes

 

 

[HighOnHockey]

10 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said:

LOL....I seem to tug on you the wrong way at times.........did not mean to 

 

Just everything I have read has Luneau ranked quite a bit lower than Jiricek in the early rankings

 

But as I said a long time ago.......I like your takes

 

 

HAHA no, nothing to do with you. You can ask anyone, I just prefer being straightforward over being polite, and do not mind offending people or being disliked.

 

I try to watch as much of the prospects as I possibly can, but there's just not enough time in the day to see every one as much as I'd like. Obviously the players I get the most invested in and advocate for are the players I've seen the most. I never quite know what to say when I say "I'm not too high on that player because haven't seen them enough" and then people tell me I'm wrong. "OK?" Sure, could be. I will try to watch more and reassess.

 

In other news, there's a 5 Nation U18 tournament coming up starting November 8th. That'll be a great opportunity to get a looks at a lot of different prospects for this draft, and pick some players from there I'd like to focus my attention on going forward.

[J.I.A.H.N]

2 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

HAHA no, nothing to do with you. You can ask anyone, I just prefer being straightforward over being polite, and do not mind offending people or being disliked.

 

I try to watch as much of the prospects as I possibly can, but there's just not enough time in the day to see every one as much as I'd like. Obviously the players I get the most invested in and advocate for are the players I've seen the most. I never quite know what to say when I say "I'm not too high on that player because haven't seen them enough" and then people tell me I'm wrong. "OK?" Sure, could be. I will try to watch more and reassess.

 

In other news, there's a 5 Nation U18 tournament coming up starting November 8th. That'll be a great opportunity to get a looks at a lot of different prospects for this draft, and pick some players from there I'd like to focus my attention on going forward.

Thank HonH

 

I see you as a valuable resource and knowledge base. I simply do not have the same insight as you. I do however dabble, which is why I "dangerously" make assumptions.

 

I do prescribe that early projections are just that, so I use them more in generalities, than exacts. And again, I do not watch alot of video's, which is why again, I use you, and other sources as my info source.

 

One thing I like to do is compare Draft sources for their final  projections, and where the prospect is 3 or 4 years down the road, sometimes 5 years, as these kids are drafted at 17, which is so young, and not fully developed. (something that some have a real problem understanding)

 

Any how...........keep on posting all that you got, and know even if I sound sure, I am probably not and looking for your opinion, even if I ask for it in an odd way......

 

Cheers

[Herberts Vasiljevs]

It might not be too early to start looking at this year's crop...

[JeremyCuddles]

5 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:

It might not be too early to start looking at this year's crop...

Yup, I don't wanna write off my team just yet but given the history I am gonna start doing some mini scouting here to see what we we're looking at for talent.

[komodo0921]

On 10/28/2021 at 4:48 PM, J.I.A.H.N said:

 

@HighOnHockey

I have picked out my "I want" prospect for the year, and will be watching where he ends up and who passes him, or who he passes.

 David JiricekI  6'3" 176 lb, RHD , I have seen him in the 8 to 12 OA range.

I have loved his video and write ups.............Keep an eye on him!

This is my pick too.

[BPA]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2022-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-november-edition/

 

Sportsnet's 2022 NHL Draft Prospect

*denotes late 2003 birthday

1. Shane Wright, C, Kingston Frontenacs (OHL): Don’t be concerned about point totals (eight points in eight games), focus on the details, and you see a first overall pick all day long.

 

2. Ivan Miroshnichenko, LW, Omsk (VHL): Extremely strong and powerful skater who possesses a deadly shot and the know-how to get into position to use it.

 

3. Juraj Slafkovsky, LW, TPS Turku (Liiga): Has a number of weapons he can use to score, be it off the rush, with the one-timer or getting to the net front.

 

4. Joakim Kemell, LW, JYP (Liiga): Is on pace to put forth one of the best U18 seasons in the history of Finland’s top pro league.

 

5. Logan Cooley, C, USNTDP: Nice little six-game goal streak featured markers against both USHL and NCAA competition.

 

*6. David Jiricek, D, HC Plzen (Extraliiga): As a defenceman, he will have added value in this draft class that's full of high-end forwards.

 

7. Conor Geekie, C, Winnipeg Ice (WHL): Even when not producing, can still impact the game by either playing physically or matching up against the opposition’s best.

 

8. Matthew Savoie, C, Winnipeg Ice (WHL): There’s no denying the puck skills and amazing playmaking ability. The creativity is what will allow him to overcome any issues regarding size (5-foot-9, 178 pounds).

 

*9. Danila Yurov, RW, Magnitogorsk (KHL): A new-aged Russian player who competes hard all over the ice and doesn’t sacrifice offence to do so.

 

10. Isaac Howard, LW, USNTDP: Has ability to find open ice to utilize his array of finishing skills.

 

[Isam]

Love the improvement in savoies game. His defensive awarness while not great has improved. The year in the ushl i think has helped him alot

[Isam]

Logan cooley is my glitter prospect this year

[D.B Cooper]

I suddenly have a lot more interest in the top end of this draft 

[R3aL]

On 10/24/2021 at 8:09 PM, HighOnHockey said:

 

I clearly don't mind pumping my own tires, but I do appreciate the recognition. I've been working at it for years and have finally had some proud scouting moments in the past couple years. Had Raymond 2nd and was one of his biggest fans in his draft year. People on HF told me I was just looking for attention and no way should he be ahead of Byfield. Even I didn't think he'd be at this level so soon though. Had Mukhamadullin at 17th and they said I was being cute. Was a bit late to the party on Eklund but had him 1st overall in my final list. He's looking ok so far.

 

Some questionable calls from last draft though. Wasn't big on Edvinsson or McTavish, and both are looking to prove me wrong so far.

 

What I'm more pleased with than seeing prospects I like succeed though, is when I'm able to identify and correct false narratives around prospects, as with Lambos and Sillinger this past draft in particular. Early on in their draft years there was this narrative established somehow around Lambos that he was a stable, unexciting defensive defenseman, and Sillinger was this one-dimensional goal-scorer. I had already seen both since the U17 and knew those things to be patently false. I was seeing Lambos compared to Pietrangelo while I compared him to P.K. Subban. A remarkably talented two-way defenseman who was a force in both the offensive and defensive zones, but with serious flaws in his decision-making and risk-manaement. And With Sillinger I saw an exceptional defensive center, pro-style player, and heart-and-soul competitior, in addition to a goal-scorer, a la Joe Paveslki or Chris Drury.

 

Can't wait to see what happens with this year's draft.

Raymond is looking great! 
 

ya keep it at I enjoy your posts and how you look at the players! Keep sharing

 

i didn’t expect to pay much attention to the top of this years draft class but if our top guys don’t get their heads out of their buts we could be in the lotto sweepstakes here..

[Alflives]

Looks like a seriously craperolla draft class.  Trade our pick for another guy as good as Miller and Garland.  

[HighOnHockey]

On 11/6/2021 at 9:58 AM, Isam said:

Love the improvement in savoies game. His defensive awarness while not great has improved. The year in the ushl i think has helped him alot

Yeah. I still don't think he'll end up a top 5 pick, but could be something like a Barzal type where he'll fall a ways and everyone looks back wondering how the hell he ever fell that far. I've been saying for a long time, he's among the most problematic top end players in the draft, but could have the highest upside of anyone except for maybe Wright. I've only caught one Ice game so far this year but I liked what I saw from him. Of course Winnipeg is so stacked he may be able to hide some of his flaws a bit.