Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 5 hours ago, King Heffy said: Benning needs to be fired on the spot if he gives Hughes any contract that's 5 years in length. Wow, now I vote for five years. Go Huggy, Go So I can see you rant about how bad Benning are for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Giving a huge contract to hughes could cripple the team if he doesn't learn to play defensive and make better decisions with the puck. Can you imagine if Tyson Barrie was signed 8x8. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 years @ 8.5 per for both get it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Timråfan said: Wow, now I vote for five years. Go Huggy, Go So I can see you rant about how bad Benning are for a few years. I have a better option. Tell Petty he is not playing this year so he can play with Dahlen his best buddy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, CanucksJay said: Thanks for this. So good to hear the other side of the argument. Is it true though that Buffalo tried to change his style of play? We can probably all agree that if Green stifled Hughes freedom, he might not be the same player he is currently Green stifled Peteys freedom and people here talk about how Petey hasn’t showed enough. Dahlin is probably molded by their coach into the player he wants. So the value of Dahlin and Petey isn’t shown jet on the rink. It will show thenext couple of years. Petey, the agents, Green and Benning knows this. Benning just don’t pay for what is visible today but also for what Benning/Green mold Petey into. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, FaninMex said: I have a better option. Tell Petty he is not playing this year so he can play with Dahlen his best buddy Well, if both Dahlen and Petey would play for Timrå this season, WOW. But it won’t happen. Even if Dahlen get sent down from the Sharks Petey will never go back until he retires. Petey won’t leave the Canucks either. we’re contenders now in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Well, if both Dahlen and Petey would play for Timrå this season, WOW. But it won’t happen. Even if Dahlen get sent down from the Sharks Petey will never go back until he retires. Petey won’t leave the Canucks either. we’re contenders now in my view. Are we? But you want the person that made us that way gone and to ruin the team with bad signings. Fairly certain you are not really a fan of the Canucks but rather a fan of a couple of Swedes on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, FaninMex said: Are we? But you want the person that made us that way gone and to ruin the team with bad signings. Fairly certain you are not really a fan of the Canucks but rather a fan of a couple of Swedes on the team. Let Benning run scouting… Not anything where HR or media is involved. For me it’s a big difference between gone and running the scouts/drafting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Let Benning run scouting… Not anything where HR or media is involved. For me it’s a big difference between gone and running the scouts/drafting. Why? You said we are a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Timråfan said: Let Benning run scouting… Not anything where HR or media is involved. For me it’s a big difference between gone and running the scouts/drafting. when was the last time you saw an nhl executive get demoted instead of fired? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, FaninMex said: Why? You said we are a contender. And? There is nothing contradictionary about that. You have a lot of examples when someone drafts good and then someone more diplomatic steps in and take over since drafting isn't the priority. Now it's player management, HR, media etc... Bennings achilles heels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, tas said: when was the last time you saw an nhl executive get demoted instead of fired? Well, if Petey and Hughes are supposed to take team friendly contracts why can't Benning take a team friendly demotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Timråfan said: Green stifled Peteys freedom and people here talk about how Petey hasn’t showed enough. Dahlin is probably molded by their coach into the player he wants. So the value of Dahlin and Petey isn’t shown jet on the rink. It will show thenext couple of years. Petey, the agents, Green and Benning knows this. Benning just don’t pay for what is visible today but also for what Benning/Green mold Petey into. That's delusional. Under TG, he's got three Calder guys in a row. And Pearson who was basically done, came back from the brink (go look at the articles about that). If anything EP and QHs should be thanking their lucky stars they didn't have a coach like Torts. QHs would be playing 17-18 minutes and benched all the time ... also probably already on the trade block. He lets his young players - well play and make mistakes. True story. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Timråfan said: Well, if Petey and Hughes are supposed to take team friendly contracts why can't Benning take a team friendly demotion? Because there's precedence for team friendly contracts around the league, and even on our own team, but no precedence for an NHL executive taking a demotion. Cmon dude, argue in good faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 48MPHSlapShot Posted September 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, IBatch said: That's delusional. Under TG, he's got three Calder guys in a row. And Pearson who was basically done, came back from the brink (go look at the articles about that). If anything EP and QHs should be thanking their lucky stars they didn't have a coach like Torts. QHs would be playing 17-18 minutes and benched all the time ... also probably already on the trade block. He lets his young players - well play and make mistakes. True story. Pettersson zone start percentage last season. Ozone- 83.1% Dzone- 16.9% "Stifled Petey's freedom" 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: But no precedence for an NHL executive taking a demotion. I'm not arguing either way in regards to Benning here but that's not exactly true. Teams don't demote executives but they will shuffle them away into some role with a fancier title and fewer responsibilities when they want to make a change but not outright fire them. We saw this most recently with Ken Holland in Detroit before he left for Edmonton. You can argue its not technically a demotion or that it's a ploy to get them to leave or whatever but as far as I'm concerned if they're directly diminishing your authority and scope on decision making you're being demoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, IBatch said: That's delusional. Under TG, he's got three Calder guys in a row. And Pearson who was basically done, came back from the brink (go look at the articles about that). If anything EP and QHs should be thanking their lucky stars they didn't have a coach like Torts. QHs would be playing 17-18 minutes and benched all the time ... also probably already on the trade block. He lets his young players - well play and make mistakes. True story. I'm not sure why you say delusional? Isn't Green molding Petey withmore responsibiliy etc? 200foot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Because there's precedence for team friendly contracts around the league, and even on our own team, but no precedence for an NHL executive taking a demotion. Cmon dude, argue in good faith. I solve things. That means nothing is impossible, not even a GM demotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Pettersson zone start percentage last season. Ozone- 83.1% Dzone- 16.9% "Stifled Petey's freedom" Do I have to say 200 foot player? Petey could have stayed up and wait for a pass without diving into defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Timråfan said: I'm not sure why you say delusional? Isn't Green molding Petey withmore responsibiliy etc? 200foot? What is it - is TG "ruining EP and QHs" or helping them. It can't be both. And from my understanding, he's helping these young guys a lot - and quite a few teams would be hiring him if he didn't get an extension. This anti-Green stuff is ridiculous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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