86Viking Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, rekker said: Weird. Im seeing Kadri's name out there. What if Sakic is thinking of moving Kadri for assets, they can't afford him moving forward. Then deal for Miller, cost controlled for two playoff pushes. Skaic would be able to offer a wide range of picks, players. That would be a smart move asset wise in my opinion. Send Kadri to Boston? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, BPA said: So apparently the asking price for Giroux is a 1st + prospect + young guy. Miller trade value is going up!!! Not really. That's standard, high end rental cost. Miller was always going to be more than that. 23 minutes ago, rekker said: Weird. Im seeing Kadri's name out there. What if Sakic is thinking of moving Kadri for assets, they can't afford him moving forward. Then deal for Miller, cost controlled for two playoff pushes. Skaic would be able to offer a wide range of picks, players. Find it hard to believe they'd trade him with the season he's having and wanting to contend. Don't normally see GM's "break up the band" under those circumstances. Risky to interrupt the chemistry like that. Interesting wrinkle if it happens though. 10 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: That would be a smart move asset wise in my opinion. Send Kadri to Boston? From an asset management view point, absolutely. Kadri to BOS or similar and nab Miller for two runs... Crazy if it happens! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, rekker said: Weird. Im seeing Kadri's name out there. What if Sakic is thinking of moving Kadri for assets, they can't afford him moving forward. Then deal for Miller, cost controlled for two playoff pushes. Skaic would be able to offer a wide range of picks, players. 14 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: That would be a smart move asset wise in my opinion. Send Kadri to Boston? To BOS: Kadri To COL: Debrusk, Senyshyn, 1st (BOS) To VAN: Debrusk, Barron, 1st (BOS), 1st (COL) To COL: Miller Would be nice for the Canucks to have 3 1st round picks this year and adding Barron on top of that. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Is Kakko even an NHL player at this point? Lots of skill and size, but does he have the desire? Is he like Olli Juiolevi and lacking the inner strenght of character to play the right way? I think he is. Just look at his world championship play. Guy is just not meshing with the play style he is asking to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, aGENT said: Not really. That's standard, high end rental cost. Miller was always going to be more than that. Find it hard to believe they'd trade him with the season he's having and wanting to contend. Don't normally see GM's "break up the band" under those circumstances. Risky to interrupt the chemistry like that. Interesting wrinkle if it happens though. From an asset management view point, absolutely. Kadri to BOS or similar and nab Miller for two runs... Crazy if it happens! It is crazy. Ask me two days ago and I wouldn't of thought Kadri is going anywhere. Then today I'm seeing his name mentioned in rumours and on NHL Network. It's the internet, so ya. But it seems like a Sakic move. Sell Kadri high, buy Miller for two playoff runs during the McKinnon window. Sakic would have a wealth of trade chips for the Canucks to choose from. Heck, they may pay well for Motte as well. Edited March 3, 2022 by rekker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, HKSR said: To BOS: Kadri To COL: Debrusk, Senyshyn, 1st (BOS) To VAN: Debrusk, Barron, 1st (BOS), 1st (COL) To COL: Miller Would be nice for the Canucks to have 3 1st round picks this year and adding Barron on top of that. BOS is going to have to give up more than an at best low value cap dump in Debrusk, a throw in in Senyshyn and their late 1st for Kadri. Try Debrusk, Lysell and their 1st and you're getting warmer. And COL would have to give up more than Debrusk, Barron and couple late 1sts. Debrusk, Newhook, Barron, their 23 1st (they don't have a 22) and the BOS 1st for Miller + Motte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: BOS is going to have to give up more than an at best low value cap dump in Debrusk, a throw in in Senyshyn and their late 1st for Kadri. Try Debrusk, Lysell and their 1st and you're getting warmer. And COL would have to give up more than Debrusk, Barron and couple late 1sts. Debrusk, Newhook, Barron, their 23 1st (they don't have a 22) and the BOS 1st for Miller + Motte. Kadri is at this moment, a pure UFA rental. I don't think you usually see grade A prospects included for those kinda guys unless they're allowed to negotiate ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, HKSR said: Kadri is at this moment, a pure UFA rental. I don't think you usually see grade A prospects included for those kinda guys unless they're allowed to negotiate ahead of time. He's more grade A-, which you do see. Either way Debrusk and Senyshyn aren't cutting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, aGENT said: He's more grade A-, which you do see. Either way Debrusk and Senyshyn aren't cutting it. I tried to find some comparable rentals, can you think of any where a 18 to 20 year old 1st round pick, a regular NHLer, and a 1st round pick are included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, HKSR said: I tried to find some comparable rentals, can you think of any where a 18 to 20 year old 1st round pick, a regular NHLer, and a 1st round pick are included? Haven't been many recently... Stone, Hayes, Duchene and Granlund in 2019 are probably the most recent close'ish comparables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, aGENT said: Haven't been many recently... Stone, Hayes, Duchene and Granlund in 2019 are probably the most recent close'ish comparables Stone is probably the closest given Kadri's performance this year. So a non-NHLer, a high tier prospect, and a 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I think at this point, if Rangers offer Laff, Lundqvist and a 1st, we do take the deal for JT Miller... this is if they are persistent on excluding Schneider from any trade talks. Obviously if Schneider is included, I dont see them including Laff. I'd rather take the chance on Laff and Lundqvist than Schneider, Krav and Chytil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, aGENT said: BOS is going to have to give up more than an at best low value cap dump in Debrusk, a throw in in Senyshyn and their late 1st for Kadri. Try Debrusk, Lysell and their 1st and you're getting warmer. And COL would have to give up more than Debrusk, Barron and couple late 1sts. Debrusk, Newhook, Barron, their 23 1st (they don't have a 22) and the BOS 1st for Miller + Motte. lol colorado ain't going to give up Kadri Barron 1st + more just for Miller and senyshyn.. an absolute crap deal on their end.. kadri is a playoff beast for colorado assuming he doesn't get suspended way more valuable than miller is to them. i think it's safe to say no one is going to be trading for Miller if his asking price is equivalent of 4 1st rounder... no player in the salary cap era have come even close to the equivalent of 4 1st rounders that's 22 or younger.. literally no one.. and there have been far better players than Miller traded throughout that time. unless that guy's name is mcdavid mackinnon draisatil or matthews.. ain't happening. as much as i love to see miller moved for asset.. if the asking price is 4 1st.. no team is going to bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, T.Demko said: I think at this point, if Rangers offer Laff, Lundqvist and a 1st, we do take the deal for JT Miller... this is if they are persistent on excluding Schneider from any trade talks. Obviously if Schneider is included, I dont see them including Laff. I'd rather take the chance on Laff and Lundqvist than Schneider, Krav and Chytil. No Schneider, no deal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I’m totally fine if the Canucks keep Miller. He is a hell of a player. If there is no deal that blows the GM away then they should start work on singing an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 hours ago, HKSR said: To BOS: Kadri To COL: Debrusk, Senyshyn, 1st (BOS) To VAN: Debrusk, Barron, 1st (BOS), 1st (COL) To COL: Miller Would be nice for the Canucks to have 3 1st round picks this year and adding Barron on top of that. ONE OF US ONE OF US 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, King Heffy said: No Schneider, no deal. I see huge potential in Laff, and if he can mimic JTs success, which he certainly has the potential too, we're essentially being rewarded Lundqvist and a 1st for our patience. I see value in that since we're no contender yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, T.Demko said: I see huge potential in Laff, and if he can mimic JTs success, which he certainly has the potential too, we're essentially being rewarded Lundqvist and a 1st for our patience. I see value in that since we're no contender yet. Laugher + Schneider + 2022 (1st) Laugher to Habs for unprotected 2022 (1st) We end up with Schneider Rags first and Habs first. Thats a very fair deal for all team. And they can suck old socks if they don’t like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Laugher + Schneider + 2022 (1st) Laugher to Habs for unprotected 2022 (1st) We end up with Schneider Rags first and Habs first. Thats a very fair deal for all team. And they can suck old socks if they don’t like it. Hey, if the Rags are offering that, I'll chase JT Miller out myself. That's a heck of a deal. I'm fine with Lundqvist in that over Schneider, I still think we get the upper hand in the long run. The ones I do not want is Kappo or Krav. Yuck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, T.Demko said: I see huge potential in Laff, and if he can mimic JTs success, which he certainly has the potential too, we're essentially being rewarded Lundqvist and a 1st for our patience. I see value in that since we're no contender yet. I don't particularly want Lundqvist though. If we can flip him for something we can actually use, I'd be more open to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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